Obama: "Constitution is flawed because Redistribution of Income was left out"

[Soul Crusher]

You're clutching at straws here 333.  I mean really you are getting worked up over speculation.  There are two things - what you think and what you know.

You are using more and more of what you think, than what you know. 

Oh really?  I read a good part of Dreams of My Fathers and Obama is truly a distrubed person with an indenity crisis. 

[Soul Crusher]

KC - do I really have to educate you on the person you voted for?
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Barack Hussein Obama - Arab-American, only 6.25% African
[Extracted from article on Arcade@home]

Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya, his father's family was mainly Arabs. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro).

What does this mean? Maybe nothing. But, why is Obama trying to hide this? Why does he try to hide is middle name? Why does he try to hide the religious Muslim school he attended as a child in Indonesia? Why doesn't he set the record straight that he wouldn't be the first black President? Why so many cover-ups and hiding of the truth?

Further, at only 6.25% African Negro, would he even be the first President who was part black? Not at all! Our 3rd President, Thomas Jefferson was our first part black President. And he's not alone, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Warren Harding and Calvin Coolidge were also part black.

President Andrew Jackson was the son of an Irish woman who married a black man. Andrew Jackson was such a high percentage black that his oldest brother was sold as a slave!

President Abraham Lincoln was the illegitimate son of an African man, he had very dark skin and coarse hair and his mother also allegedly came from an Ethiopian tribe. His heritage fueled so much controversy that Lincoln was nicknamed "Abraham Africanus the First" by his opponents.

President Warren Harding never even denied claims that he was black, because he had black ancestors between both sets of parents and he attended Iberia College, a school founded to educate fugitive slaves.

President Calvin Coolidge was proud of his heritage and claimed his mother was dark because of mixed Indian ancestry. Coolidge's mother's maiden name was "Moor" and in Europe the name "Moor" was given to all blacks just as "Negro" was used in America.

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[kcballer]

Oh really?  I read a good part of Dreams of My Fathers and Obama is truly a distrubed person with an indenity crisis. 

That is YOUR opinion.  Once again you are mixing up what you think and what you know.  Know = facts, think = opinion.

[kcballer]

You are seriously posting about semantics of his race? 6.25% black what the fu*k does that even mean? And more to the point, why should ANYONE care? 

[Soul Crusher]

You are seriously posting about semantics of his race? 6.25% black what the fu*k does that even mean? And more to the point, why should ANYONE care? 

You said that i was making things up when i was responding to the above post about Obama's reason for his disdain for this country.  I was not.

Obama has no reason to hate this country.  It has been very good to him and his family.     

[Fury]

Obama and the Constitution; He Has His Doubts (college thesis)
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Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 11:01:50 AM by Sir Gawain


October 21st, 2009 6:46 pm
Obama and the Constitution; He Has His Doubts


I missed this first time around. Brian Lancaster at Jumping in Pools reported on Obama’s college thesis, written when he was at Columbia. The paper was called “Aristocracy Reborn,” and in the first ten pages (which were all that reporter Joe Klein–who wrote about it for Time–was permitted to see), the young Obama wrote:


“… the Constitution allows for many things, but what it does not allow is the most revealing. The so-called Founders did not allow for economic freedom. While political freedom is supposedly a cornerstone of the document, the distribution of wealth is not even mentioned. While many believed that the new Constitution gave them liberty, it instead fitted them with the shackles of hypocrisy.”

That’s quite an indictment, even for an Ivy League undergraduate. I wonder if the prof–and I’d like to know who the prof was–made an appropriate marginal comment, something about historical context, about the Constitution’s revolutionary status in the history of freedom, and about the separation of powers in order to make the creation of any “shackles” as difficult as possible.

Maybe instead of fuming about words that Rush Limbaugh never uttered, the paladins of the free press might ask the president about words that he did write. Maybe he’d like to parse “the so-called Founders,” for example. I’d like to know what he thinks of those words today. And what about the rest of the thesis?

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Unfreaking real.  

IS THIS WHAT YOU VOTED FOR?  ? ? ? ? ?

You really like hanging on to stuff someone did when they were in their 20's. Who gives a fuck?  

You sound like a scorned little girl. Kind of pathetic.

[Soul Crusher]

How about those clips from 2001? 

Did he change his tune at all?

 

[kcballer]

You said that i was making things up when i was responding to the above post about Obama's reason for his disdain for this country.  I was not.

Obama has no reason to hate this country.  It has been very good to him and his family.     

I never said you were making things up.  I said you were posting opinion.  Not facts.  And not necessarily truth either.  

Once again your opinion is he 'hates this country'. Another opinion might be he loves this country but not what it has become.  In all honesty unless you ask him you nor i truly know.

You love to speculate, to bring race into things, to try to tarnish the thought that he is the first black president.  Don't like that title? How about the first dark skinned president? But before you go finding some article that says his skin pigment is 'lighter than another president' stop and think about the madness you are posting.  

[Soul Crusher]

I never said you were making things up.  I said you were posting opinion.  Not facts.  And not necessarily truth either.  

Once again your opinion is he 'hates this country'. Another opinion might be he loves this country but not what it has become.  In all honesty unless you ask him you nor i truly know.

You love to speculate, to bring race into things, to try to tarnish the thought that he is the first black president.  Don't like that title? How about the first dark skinned president? But before you go finding some article that says his skin pigment is 'lighter than another president' stop and think about the madness you are posting.  

[Soul Crusher]

Another opinion might be he loves this country but not what it has become.

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From his own quotes in the clips i posted, Dreams of My Fathers, and this paper, it is clear that the opposite is true.  He says we are flawed from our founding because redistribution of welath is not enshrined in the founding documents. 

[Kazan]

For the record Bush was against the constitution. 

Yeah, the patriot act is an abomination, doesn't make the current POTUS any less culpable. I seem to remember all  the left in an uproar over it, but has it been replealed? No, why? Because its only bad when the other guy is doing it.

[Kazan]

You really like hanging on to stuff someone did when they were in their 20's. Who gives a fuck?  

You sound like a scorned little girl. Kind of pathetic.

Good attitude, maybe we should set Manson free because he did it when he was in his 20's

[The Showstoppa]

How can I still be amazed at the amount of excuses that are made for Obama?  People always ask that someone tell you what they honestly think about something, yet when he does/has it's excused because "well, he probably doesn't think that now." What?  Why would you assume someone changed their position unless they told, or proved it.

CULT OF PERSONALITY !!

[kcballer]

How can I still be amazed at the amount of excuses that are made for Obama?  People always ask that someone tell you what they honestly think about something, yet when he does/has it's excused because "well, he probably doesn't think that now." What?  Why would you assume someone changed their position unless they told, or proved it.

CULT OF PERSONALITY !!

I think if you are allowed to make the assumption that he still believes that, i can fairly make the assumption he doesn't. 

[Kazan]

I think if you are allowed to make the assumption that he still believes that, i can fairly make the assumption he doesn't. 

THe problem is their is proof in his (obama's) own words that he does indeed believe it, can you produce anything in his own words that says he doesn't?

[Soul Crusher]

I think if you are allowed to make the assumption that he still believes that, i can fairly make the assumption he doesn't. 

My assumption is based on his clips and his many statements repeating the same train of thought.

What is your assumption based on that he does not believe these things anymore?   

[kcballer]

My assumption is based on his clips and his many statements repeating the same train of thought.

What is your assumption based on that he does not believe these things anymore?   

The assumption (and fact) that he hasn't tried to re-write the constitution, he hasn't changed America into a marxist state or anything of the sort.  He has proposed Health Care reform, the same thing Clinton tried to do, was he then a marxist too? He has continued and expanded on the bailouts started under Bush, was he then a marxist?

[Soul Crusher]

The assumption (and fact) that he hasn't tried to re-write the constitution, he hasn't changed America into a marxist state or anything of the sort.  He has proposed Health Care reform, the same thing Clinton tried to do, was he then a marxist too? He has continued and expanded on the bailouts started under Bush, was he then a marxist?

Thank God for the constitution and checks and balances! 

Cap & Trade is a marxist energy takeover granting the govt far too many powers.

Same with his original health care proposal.   

[12secGT]

Still with the Bill Ayers thing huh?

You view it as talking sh*t. Other may not.

Once again would you prefer the American people never questioned anything?

KB: The constitution is the document this country is founded on. It is not to be questioned. If you don't like it, then leave it. Honestly. I understand where you are coming from, but there are some things written in stone, period. You question this, then you question this country's existance and I for one respect and will never allow someone, president or not, EVER change what the constitution is and what it represents.

[12secGT]

You really like hanging on to stuff someone did when they were in their 20's. Who gives a fuck?  

You sound like a scorned little girl. Kind of pathetic.

Funny, but the democrats hung their hats on Bush's issues when he was in his 20's... Sorry man, that doesn't fly.

[12secGT]

The assumption (and fact) that he hasn't tried to re-write the constitution, he hasn't changed America into a marxist state or anything of the sort.  He has proposed Health Care reform, the same thing Clinton tried to do, was he then a marxist too? He has continued and expanded on the bailouts started under Bush, was he then a marxist?

KB: Where you are misinformed is Bush never advocated for the take over of banks and the auto industry. Unlike Bush, Obama, like Gore and the ultra left want to change the way our econ. is structured. By doing so, is a direct reference to socialism and marxism.

[kcballer]

Thank God for the constitution and checks and balances! 

Cap & Trade is a marxist energy takeover granting the govt far too many powers.

Same with his original health care proposal.   

A 'marxist' energy take over? Are you nuts? A cap and trade style system was put in place by G Bush in the 1990 clean air act.  Palin and McCain, yes your favourite woman, campaigned on the basis of having a 'cap and trade' system going forward to reduce emissions.

As for health care i guess every country with a government assisted or run health care program is a marxist state is that right?  So schooling run by Government is a marxist idea? Police, fire, the Armed forces are they too marxist ideas?  

[kcballer]

KB: The constitution is the document this country is founded on. It is not to be questioned. If you don't like it, then leave it. Honestly. I understand where you are coming from, but there are some things written in stone, period. You question this, then you question this country's existance and I for one respect and will never allow someone, president or not, EVER change what the constitution is and what it represents.

It is never to be questioned? Haha seriously? You must want to live in a dictatorship.  Do you even want liberty? You must question and challenge things.  If the constitution is never to be questioned why is it challenged in court, why is it added to and amended?  And why is this accepted practice? Because it's all part of the democratic process.

[Soul Crusher]

A 'marxist' energy take over? Are you nuts? A cap and trade style system was put in place by G Bush in the 1990 clean air act.  Palin and McCain, yes your favourite woman, campaigned on the basis of having a 'cap and trade' system going forward to reduce emissions.

As for health care i guess every country with a government assisted or run health care program is a marxist state is that right?  So schooling run by Government is a marxist idea? Police, fire, the Armed forces are they too marxist ideas?  

Cap & Trade, as was passed by the House of Reps. is a massive giveaway to GS.  It taxes the crap out of us, literally, based on junk science.  did you know that Ken Lay and Al Gore met to create this scheme?  You remember Ken Lay right?

 

[kcballer]

KB: Where you are misinformed is Bush never advocated for the take over of banks and the auto industry. Unlike Bush, Obama, like Gore and the ultra left want to change the way our econ. is structured. By doing so, is a direct reference to socialism and marxism.

So you are advocating the giving away of tax payer funds and to never have an oversight into how it is used? You must support lunacy.