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33, why dont you edit the thread title? thats like the 3rd or 4th time you posted something that was 100% fake and still left the title up

would you be giving shit to 240 for example if he posted a fake story and left the title up  ???

 ::) ::)  Talk about semantics. 

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::) ::)  Talk about semantics. 

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i'm very unhappy about the buck devaluation.  I think we needed *some* stimulus, but giving bonuses to bank presidents ain't my idea of how the $ should be used.

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i'm very unhappy about the buck devaluation.  I think we needed *some* stimulus, but giving bonuses to bank presidents ain't my idea of how the $ should be used.

The best fiscal stimulus would be fiscal restraint.  My GF's brother works for a small venture capital firm that invests in businesses, etc.  He told me that his firm might go under because all of the nations' money is being sucked up in the bailouts and GS schemes. 

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Cap & Trade, as was passed by the House of Reps. is a massive giveaway to GS.  It taxes the crap out of us, literally, based on junk science.  did you know that Ken Lay and Al Gore met to create this scheme?  You remember Ken Lay right?

 
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Was Ken lay a Marxist?


He was a bankster criminal and a corporate communist as Dylan Ratigan says. 


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Was Ken lay a Marxist?


http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/05/30/lawrence-solomon-enron-s-other-secret.aspx


Check this out Hedge.  Al Gore, Enron, and the rest of these thieves are all in bed to screw the taxpayer.  This is pure piracy of the taxpayer. 

 

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Thanks for bumping this 33.  This is further confirmation that the man is a socialist.  Not sure it shows he "hates" the Constitution.  He thinks the fact it doesn't require redistribution of wealth is a "flaw."  Does not surprise me that he thinks this way.  That is essentially how he is governing. 

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Thanks for bumping this 33.  This is further confirmation that the man is a socialist.  Not sure it shows he "hates" the Constitution.  He thinks the fact it doesn't require redistribution of wealth is a "flaw."  Does not surprise me that he thinks this way.  That is essentially how he is governing. 

Does he "hate" the constitution? I think the answer is he probably does. He's been quoted several times saying the constitution is merely a document of negative liberties and doesn't really clarify what the government can do, which is absurd. The constitution specifically grants and specifies certain powers to the federal government and again, specifically states "all powers" not granted to the federal government within the document are reserved for the states.

I also believe that both the constitution and declaration of independence are both very specific when it comes to things like the redistribution of wealth. No, neither document uses those words "redistribution of wealth" specifically, but the specifics of the rights of man in regards to "his" property is very specific and quite to the point. I've said before that much of our founding documents are based on many of the ideas of John Locke, Locke believed that property, meaning, wealth, land, the production of your labor was a protected value belonging unto each man according to what God had blessed him with and that no man had any right to take away from one for which God had blessed him with.

As he so often does, Jefferson said it best:

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."

"Nothing is unchangeable but the inherent and unalienable rights of man."

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Does he "hate" the constitution? I think the answer is he probably does. He's been quoted several times saying the constitution is merely a document of negative liberties and doesn't really clarify what the government can do, which is absurd. The constitution specifically grants and specifies certain powers to the federal government and again, specifically states "all powers" not granted to the federal government within the document are reserved for the states.

I also believe that both the constitution and declaration of independence are both very specific when it comes to things like the redistribution of wealth. No, neither document uses those words "redistribution of wealth" specifically, but the specifics of the rights of man in regards to "his" property is very specific and quite to the point. I've said before that much of our founding documents are based on many of the ideas of John Locke, Locke believed that property, meaning, wealth, land, the production of your labor was a protected value belonging unto each man according to what God had blessed him with and that no man had any right to take away from one for which God had blessed him with.

As he so often does, Jefferson said it best:

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."

"Nothing is unchangeable but the inherent and unalienable rights of man."

Great analysis as usual Arnold.  I agree the "negative liberties" argument is wrong.

I'm not going to argue with you, 33, or anyone else who thinks the man "hates" the Constitution.  I'm not there yet, but you guys have enough to make a credible argument.     

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Great analysis as usual Arnold.  I agree the "negative liberties" argument is wrong.

I'm not going to argue with you, 33, or anyone else who thinks the man "hates" the Constitution.  I'm not there yet, but you guys have enough to make a credible argument.     

BB - eventually you will be as rabid an anti-obama person as I am.  the more you learn about him, the more there is to dislike. 

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BB - eventually you will be as rabid an anti-obama person as I am.  the more you learn about him, the more there is to dislike. 

lol.  Oh I don't know about that.  You're hatred of the man is pretty extreme.   :)  I just want him out of office.  I try not to demonize people I disagree with on policy issues.  That's part of the problem with politics.  We're unable to separate the act from the person.  I created a thread a long time ago about how we've gone from people being wrong on the issues to people being evil.   

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No, the problem is the vast majority DID NOT vote for this. That's because they vast majority thought it was the presidential installment of American Idol, instead, the winner RUNS the COUNTRY!! Our trusty media placed this guy up like a rock star and there he stays. Only now do we see what he is all about, who is friends are, and of course and unfortunately, what his agenda holds for the rest of us....

Wanna solve it?? VOTE HIS SUPPORT OUT IN THE MID TERM ELECTIONS!!!! We can't stop it all, but if you take his majority away, then it will hold him up as a lame duck president... Then do away with him in 2012. Only then I hope we learned our lession and do more research before we put clowns like him in office.

Yeah i really wish we had the last pres back ;D

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Yeah i really wish we had the last pres back ;D

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The best fiscal stimulus would be fiscal restraint. 


What is the last year our govt showed 'fiscal restraint', 33?

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What is the last year our govt showed 'fiscal restraint', 33?

Relative to what?  Compared to your hero, Bush seems like a miser.  Personally - it was 1995 - 1999 

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yeah i was going to say sometime late 90s

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