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Re: VINCE TAYLOR VS. CHRIS CORMIER
« Reply #50 on: November 02, 2009, 03:05:10 PM »
 i'd have to say the longevity of Vince might give him the edge, tho they were both phenominal.  Vince was still one of the worlds best at 50.

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Re: VINCE TAYLOR VS. CHRIS CORMIER
« Reply #51 on: November 02, 2009, 03:25:38 PM »
Select shots cormiers arms were so so flex Coleman kevin shawn most from the ninetes era had better arms and the whole
wish my arms were ? Latest getbig saying is redundant in comparision to vince and most pros of that era chis cormiers arms were weak fact end of
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« Reply #52 on: November 02, 2009, 03:36:50 PM »
Select shots cormiers arms were so so flex Coleman kevin shawn most from the ninetes era had better arms and the whole
wish my arms were ? Latest getbig saying is redundant in comparision to vince and most pros of that era chis cormiers arms were weak fact end of

LMFAO weak like most of your opinions besides being ignorant they based purely on preference

Chris owns Vince , Kevin and Shawn ALL combined in natural structure and balance so whatever imagined advantage is moot in the face of pure genetics , Shawn , Vince and Kevin were all more consistent professionals but that speaks more about Chris' work ethic and his motivation than his physique & potential

Vince was smaller and didn't have as good as a natural structure , Chris at his best is bigger has better balance & proportion as a whole so therefore Chris wins , when you type Chris is overrated what you're really saying is you don't know much about bodybuilding .

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« Reply #53 on: November 02, 2009, 03:42:20 PM »
If anything Chris is very underrated and I wish my arms were this ' undersized '

you?!!!.. who are you?!.. it's a comparison between two of the best bbs ever!.. sure you wish your arm were the same as the weakest arms ever of a pro. bb ::).. it's like when we talk about nasser's weak back or dorian's weak arm, they are weal for them but not for us..

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« Reply #54 on: November 02, 2009, 03:59:49 PM »
Exactly ! and I think Chris would beat him Taylor competed at about 210 pounds around 5'8" if not less .

He added size throughout the 90's, as did Chris. Vince did weigh less than 210 pounds in the late 80's/early 90's, but slowly gained size and was competing in his 230's by the mid 90's.

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« Reply #55 on: November 02, 2009, 04:04:18 PM »
LMFAO weak like most of your opinions besides being ignorant they based purely on preference

Chris owns Vince , Kevin and Shawn ALL combined in natural structure and balance so whatever imagined advantage is moot in the face of pure genetics , Shawn , Vince and Kevin were all more consistent professionals but that speaks more about Chris' work ethic and his motivation than his physique & potential

Vince was smaller and didn't have as good as a natural structure , Chris at his best is bigger has better balance & proportion as a whole so therefore Chris wins , when you type Chris is overrated what you're really saying is you don't know much about bodybuilding .

 Bodybuilding is subjective u are entitled to ur opinion
but to me cormier is overated simple
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« Reply #56 on: November 02, 2009, 04:07:01 PM »
Bodybuilding is subjective u are entitled to ur opinion
but to me cormier is overated simple

Who do you think was better? Chris Cormier or Charles Clairmonte?

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« Reply #57 on: November 02, 2009, 04:07:44 PM »
you?!!!.. who are you?!.. it's a comparison between two of the best bbs ever!.. sure you wish your arm were the same as the weakest arms ever of a pro. bb ::).. it's like when we talk about nasser's weak back or dorian's weak arm, they are weal for them but not for us..

Back to parts ( shakes head ) when will you learn?  :-\

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« Reply #58 on: November 02, 2009, 04:10:17 PM »
Bodybuilding is subjective u are entitled to ur opinion
but to me cormier is overated simple

chris was a very good bb but he lacked the "wow" factor.. his back was great but not dorian's and ronnie's level, he didnt have nasser's shoulders or kevin's triceps.. everything on him was good but just good, nothing outstanding, i can say the same about shawn ray.. but ray's over all balance and symmetry were better..

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« Reply #59 on: November 02, 2009, 04:11:56 PM »
He added size throughout the 90's, as did Chris. Vince did weigh less than 210 pounds in the late 80's/early 90's, but slowly gained size and was competing in his 230's by the mid 90's.

A lot of guys added size to the detriment of their physiques doesn't say much Chris was still bigger without suffering for it 

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« Reply #60 on: November 02, 2009, 04:12:57 PM »
Back to parts ( shakes head ) when will you learn?  :-\

you were the one who talked about "parts" when you wished your "arms" to be like cormier's!!.. :-X i am not an expert but i have a good eye to say at the first glance if this guy is a good bb or not, not like you who once said that fux was a mr. olympia material ::)

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« Reply #61 on: November 02, 2009, 04:16:05 PM »
;)
taylor is amazing over 50 years old still large and in charge

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« Reply #62 on: November 02, 2009, 04:17:50 PM »
He added size throughout the 90's, as did Chris. Vince did weigh less than 210 pounds in the late 80's/early 90's, but slowly gained size and was competing in his 230's by the mid 90's.
I always thought Vince looked better at the lower bodyweights. Though smaller I thought the sharpness he had was awesome. What did he place in Helsinki? 3rd? CC is underrated or maybe just considered lazy but I think his build is up there for all-time. When he was on with his ridiculous structure and muscle shape he would wax Vince. His arms werent weak either just had flatter peaks on his bis thats all. Guess he should have pumped them up with synthol like all his boys were doin.

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« Reply #63 on: November 02, 2009, 04:19:46 PM »
you were the one who talked about "parts" when you wished your "arms" to be like cormier's!!.. :-X i am not an expert but i have a good eye to say at the first glance if this guy is a good bb or not, not like you who once said that fux was a mr. olympia material ::)

Please you don't have a good eye , you think Nasser is the best  ;)

And if you don't think Fux had all the tools to be Mr Olympia then you have much to learn my friend

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« Reply #64 on: November 02, 2009, 04:23:04 PM »
I always thought Vince looked better at the lower bodyweights. Though smaller I thought the sharpness he had was awesome. What did he place in Helsinki? 3rd? CC is underrated or maybe just considered lazy but I think his build is up there for all-time. When he was on with his ridiculous structure and muscle shape he would wax Vince. His arms werent weak either just had flatter peaks on his bis thats all. Guess he should have pumped them up with synthol like all his boys were doin.

He was also very off in Helsinki. He was in a lot of pain throughout the competition. He had actually torn his cornea and hadn't slept, ate, or trained for days before the contest. If he had been completely ON, he was posed a SERIOUS threat to the overall title.

He also almost beat a very ON 1994 Kevin Levrone at the Arnold Classic and destroyed Chris that competition, who I think he actually outweighed.

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« Reply #65 on: November 02, 2009, 04:26:12 PM »
He was also very off in Helsinki. He was in a lot of pain throughout the competition. He had actually torn his cornea and hadn't slept, ate, or trained for days before the contest. If he had been completely ON, he was posed a SERIOUS threat to the overall title.

He also almost beat a very ON 1994 Kevin Levrone at the Arnold Classic and destroyed Chris that competition, who I think he actually outweighed.

He wasn't any threat what so ever to Yates and most guys don't train days before a contest and Dorian didn't train for weeks before the 94 Olympia , Vince's story sounded much like Flexes in 97

Vince wasn't going to touch a spot-on Levrone or Dorian

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« Reply #66 on: November 02, 2009, 04:29:09 PM »
I always thought Vince looked better at the lower bodyweights. Though smaller I thought the sharpness he had was awesome. What did he place in Helsinki? 3rd? CC is underrated or maybe just considered lazy but I think his build is up there for all-time. When he was on with his ridiculous structure and muscle shape he would wax Vince. His arms werent weak either just had flatter peaks on his bis thats all. Guess he should have pumped them up with synthol like all his boys were doin.

Smart man , I agree with everything you typed.

people underrate Chris because it was almost perfect and didn't have any standout parts not realizing his whole physique was a standout ' part ' he's like a 260 pound Bob Paris

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« Reply #67 on: November 02, 2009, 04:29:19 PM »
Please you don't have a good eye , you think Nasser is the best  ;)

And if you don't think Fux had all the tools to be Mr Olympia then you have much to learn my friend

i never said nasser was the best!!.. he was the best and most complete from the front but sure his back affected his overall package..

so if fux was that great why he was never placed in the top 6 at the olympia ::) fux's wide waist and odd abs destoyed his shape.. also the rest of him was not any thing special aside of his great size of course.. his only outstanding pose was the rear lat spread, other than that nothing was special.. again i am not an expert!..

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« Reply #68 on: November 02, 2009, 04:31:19 PM »
He wasn't any threat what so ever to Yates and most guys don't train days before a contest and Dorian didn't train for weeks before the 94 Olympia , Vince's story sounded much like Flexes in 97

Vince wasn't going to touch a spot-on Levrone or Dorian

dorian didnt train weeks before mr. o. 94?! why?!.. may be you meant 97!!..

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Re: VINCE TAYLOR VS. CHRIS CORMIER
« Reply #69 on: November 02, 2009, 04:34:48 PM »
If anything Chris is very underrated and I wish my arms were this ' undersized '

that picture looks morphed

Chris's arms were never that big on stage

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« Reply #70 on: November 02, 2009, 04:36:47 PM »
i never said nasser was the best!!.. he was the best and most complete from the front but sure his back affected his overall package..

so if fux was that great why he was never placed in the top 6 at the olympia ::) fux's wide waist and odd abs destoyed his shape.. also the rest of him was not any thing special aside of his great size of course.. his only outstanding pose was the rear lat spread, other than that nothing was special.. again i am not an expert!..

No kidding you're not an expert that's blatantly obvious from your posts Mr Sensitive  ;D

Fux had a narrow waist FYI huge gut but like Ronnie a narrow waist and who cares if he never placed top six? this means what? Ronnie was 9th in 97 behind Fux BTW plenty of guys have/had the potential to become Mr Olympia but never capitalized on it , doesn't mean they didn't have all the tools

Fux had an outstanding structure , he was massive with super-wide clavicles and a narrow waist and a great back , pretty amazing balance , his shape wasn't as pleasing as Flex but that's semantics , neither was Dorians , he couldn't find the right balance , same with Cormier who Dorian said had the potential to beat Ronnie if everything was perfect however it didn't work out

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« Reply #71 on: November 02, 2009, 04:37:43 PM »
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Vince wasn't going to touch a spot-on Levrone or Dorian

bullshit.

look how good vince looked in shitty condition at the 92 O:

at his best shape he would have pushed them both hard at that contest, if not won the whole damn thing:

he was a real favorite going in. he was coming off winning everything in sight that year. 92 ironman, 92 AC, bunch of GP shows etc etc.

don't rewrite history just to make tiny arms seem better than he was.. ::)
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Re: VINCE TAYLOR VS. CHRIS CORMIER
« Reply #72 on: November 02, 2009, 04:40:58 PM »
Taylor.

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« Reply #73 on: November 02, 2009, 04:41:59 PM »
bullshit.

look how good vince looked in shitty condition at the 92 O:

at his best shape he would have pushed them both hard at that contest, if not won the whole damn thing:

he was a real favorite going in. he was coming off winning everything in sight that year. 92 ironman, 92 AC, bunch of GP shows etc etc.

don't rewrite history just to make tiny arms seem better than he was.. ::)

And you know what?  ??? Vince wasn't a threat to Dorian , Haney or Kevin you think posting one select pic proves anything? Dorian pushed Haney to the limit something Vince never did , keep talking out your ass kid I'll keep correcting you

Kevin and Dorian were the odds on favorites in 92 with Vince being the dark horse

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« Reply #74 on: November 02, 2009, 04:42:38 PM »
No kidding you're not an expert that's blatantly obvious from your posts Mr Sensitive  ;D

Fux had a narrow waist FYI huge gut but like Ronnie a narrow waist and who cares if he never placed top six? this means what? Ronnie was 9th in 97 behind Fux BTW plenty of guys have/had the potential to become Mr Olympia but never capitalized on it , doesn't mean they didn't have all the tools

Fux had an outstanding structure , he was massive with super-wide clavicles and a narrow waist and a great back , pretty amazing balance , his shape wasn't as pleasing as Flex but that's semantics , neither was Dorians , he couldn't find the right balance , same with Cormier who Dorian said had the potential to beat Ronnie if everything was perfect however it didn't work out

post a pic. of fux showing his narrow waist mr. expert ::) they guy had wide lats that give this feeling but actually his waist was big (bones)..