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« Reply #100 on: November 06, 2009, 12:45:34 PM »
The problem is small markets housing teams where no one gives a shit about baseball.  The Red Sox manage to generate about 80% of the Yankees yearly revenue in a market that is much smaller than New York.  My point is this: yes, The Yankees have an unfair advantage on many teams (the revenue difference between the Yankees and the Sox is roughly the same as the disparity between the Marlins and the Sox), but the difference is that the Red Sox have the means to compete due to the interest level in their market.   Markets that don't produce a certain amount of revue should be cut.

The solution is housing teams in markets that can support a competitive operation, and forcing teams to all spend the same portion of their revenue on payroll.  

Lastly. overspending for players does not guarantee success.  

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« Reply #101 on: November 06, 2009, 12:47:28 PM »
The problem is small markets housing teams where no one gives a shit about baseball.  The Red Sox manage to generate about 80% of the Yankees yearly revenue in a market that is much smaller than New York.  My point is this: yes, The Yankees have an unfair advantage on many teams (the revenue difference between the Yankees and the Sox is roughly the same as the disparity between the Marlins and the Sox), but the difference is that the red Sox have the means to compete due to the interest level in their market.   Markets that don't produce a certain amount of revue should be cut.

The solution is housing teams in markets that can support a competitive operation, and forcing teams to all spend the same portion of their revenue on payroll. 
Ever hear of revenue sharing chooch?

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« Reply #102 on: November 06, 2009, 12:50:06 PM »
Ever hear of revenue sharing chooch?


Yes, but revenue sharing does not force teams to spend the same amount on their payrolls.  For example, the Yankees spent 62% of their overall revenue on payroll this year, and the Red Sox spent 48%.  

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« Reply #103 on: November 06, 2009, 12:52:08 PM »
of course you don't think so, you're a yankee fan

worked for every other sport, somehow baseball is the exception it would never work ::)


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How has it worked for the other sports? The same teams are good year in and year out in football. The Patriots are a well-run organization that is always competitive while teams like the Browns and Rams consistently suck.

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« Reply #104 on: November 06, 2009, 12:53:26 PM »
The problem is small markets housing teams where no one gives a shit about baseball.  The Red Sox manage to generate about 80% of the Yankees yearly revenue in a market that is much smaller than New York.  My point is this: yes, The Yankees have an unfair advantage on many teams (the revenue difference between the Yankees and the Sox is roughly the same as the disparity between the Marlins and the Sox), but the difference is that the Red Sox have the means to compete due to the interest level in their market.   Markets that don't produce a certain amount of revue should be cut.

The solution is housing teams in markets that can support a competitive operation, and forcing teams to all spend the same portion of their revenue on payroll.  

Lastly. overspending for players does not guarantee success. 

who are the small markets that don't care?  

no overspending doesn't gaurantee success, just like using steroids and hgh doesn't gaurantee you will hit 40 home runs

it's still gives you a major advantage


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« Reply #105 on: November 06, 2009, 12:55:15 PM »

Yes, but revenue sharing does not force teams to spend the same amount on their payrolls.  For example, the Yankees spent 62% of their overall revenue on payroll this year, and the Red Sox spent 48%.  
That's right, and the fact that the Yankees spend a higher % on payroll is their choice and why they are always highly competitive. Other teams choose to pocket the money and show a profit.

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« Reply #106 on: November 06, 2009, 12:55:36 PM »
who are the small markets that don't care?  

no overspending doesn't gaurantee success, just like using steroids and hgh doesn't gaurantee you will hit 40 home runs

it's still gives you a major advantage


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Tampa Bay.  Tampa is a top market in the US, they put a great team on the field year after year, and they can't sell out the stadium when their team is deep in the playoffs.  There should not be a team there, period.

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« Reply #107 on: November 06, 2009, 12:57:56 PM »
That's right, and the fact that the Yankees spend a higher % on payroll is their choice and why they are always highly competitive. Other teams choose to pocket the money and show a profit.

Correct, so get rid of these teams in shitty markets that can't generate adequate revenue, and regulate the percentage that every team MUST spend on payroll, and viola, you have a better MLB.

It's a fucking disgrace that Tampa couldn't sell out their stadium the year before last during their WS run.  Tampa is a warm weather, top 15 market in the US....pitiful.

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« Reply #108 on: November 06, 2009, 01:13:36 PM »
How has it worked for the other sports? The same teams are good year in and year out in football. The Patriots are a well-run organization that is always competitive while teams like the Browns and Rams consistently suck.


how hasn't it worked for other sports?  hockey adds a cap and all of a sudden the penguins can maintain their best players and they win a cup

could indianapolis afford peyton manning without a cap?  he would be making more than a rod if jerry jones and daniel snyder could throw their money at him

the rams consistently suck?  10 years ago they won a super bowl and were an elite team until about 2003, the patriots used to be a bad team, they made good personnel moves and caught lightning in a bottle drafting brady in the 6th round, arguably the best qb ever

brady took less money so they could fit more good players under the cap, can you imagine A rod doing that?


every year you can say that each nfl team has a chance to make the playoffs, can you say the same about baseball?

the nfl adds a cap and the cowboys haven't won a playoff game ever since, the redskins try as hard as any team to win but they draft bad and give too much money to average players like antwan randle el

teams like the lions and browns are bad because of poor management, poor drafting, poor free agent signings not because they don't have as much money as other teams

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« Reply #109 on: November 06, 2009, 01:24:05 PM »

Tampa Bay.  Tampa is a top market in the US, they put a great team on the field year after year, and they can't sell out the stadium when their team is deep in the playoffs.  There should not be a team there, period.

the problem with tampa and most of florida is a lot of their residents are from the northeast


if milwaukee, kansas city, and pittsburgh had a team as good as tampa's last year they would sell out every game

the pens sold 5000 tickets in a 16000 seat arena per game when they were the worst in the league in 2004, they currently have sold out nearly 100 straight games and have better local FSN ratings than any other american city

baseball is bigger than hockey, if the pirates could compete they would be bigger than the pens in town

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