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Fort Hood's 9/11
« on: November 06, 2009, 11:24:08 AM »
Ralphs take...not saying I completely agree until the facts come out..I think he's just a raghead pussy myself.

On Thursday afternoon, a radicalized Muslim US Army officer shouting "Allahu Akbar!" committed the worst act of terror on American soil since 9/11. And no one wants to call it an act of terror or associate it with Islam.

What cowards we are. Political correctness killed those patriotic Americans at Ft. Hood as surely as the Islamist gunman did. And the media treat it like a case of non-denominational shoplifting.

This was a terrorist act. When an extremist plans and executes a murderous plot against our unarmed soldiers to protest our efforts to counter Islamist fanatics, it’s an act of terror. Period.

When the terrorist posts anti-American hate-speech on the Web; apparently praises suicide bombers and uses his own name; loudly criticizes US policies; argues (as a psychiatrist, no less) with his military patients over the worth of their sacrifices; refuses, in the name of Islam, to be photographed with female colleagues; lists his nationality as "Palestinian" in a Muslim spouse-matching program, and parades around central Texas in a fundamentalist playsuit — well, it only seems fair to call this terrorist an "Islamist terrorist."

But the president won’t. Despite his promise to get to all the facts. Because there’s no such thing as "Islamist terrorism" in ObamaWorld.

And the Army won’t. Because its senior leaders are so sick with political correctness that pandering to America-haters is safer than calling terrorism "terrorism."

And the media won’t. Because they have more interest in the shooter than in our troops — despite their crocodile tears.

Maj. Nadal Malik Hasan planned this terrorist attack and executed it in cold blood. The resulting massacre was the first tragedy. The second was that he wasn’t killed on the spot.

Hasan survived. Now the rest of us will have to foot his massive medical bills. Activist lawyers will get involved, claiming "harassment" drove him temporarily insane. There’ll be no end of trial delays. At best, taxpayer dollars will fund his prison lifestyle for decades to come, since our politically correct Army leadership wouldn’t dare pursue or carry out the death penalty.

Maj. Hasan will be a hero to Islamist terrorists abroad and their sympathizers here. While US Muslim organizations decry his acts publicly, Hasan will be praised privately. And he’ll have the last laugh.

But Hasan isn’t the sole guilty party. The US Army’s unforgivable political correctness is also to blame for the casualties at Ft. Hood.

Given the myriad warning signs, it’s appalling that no action was taken against a man apparently known to praise suicide bombers and openly damn US policy. But no officer in his chain of command, either at Walter Reed Army Medical Center or at Ft. Hood, had the guts to take meaningful action against a dysfunctional soldier and an incompetent doctor.

Had Hasan been a Lutheran or a Methodist, he would’ve been gone with the simoon. But officers fear charges of discrimination when faced with misconduct among protected minorities.

Now 12 soldiers and a security guard lie dead. 31 soldiers were wounded, 28 of them seriously. If heads don’t roll in this maggot’s chain of command, the Army will have shamed itself beyond moral redemption.

There’s another important issue, too. How could the Army allow an obviously incompetent and dysfunctional psychiatrist to treat our troubled soldiers returning from war? An Islamist whacko is counseled for arguing with veterans who’ve been assigned to his care? And he’s not removed from duty? What planet does the Army live on?

For the first time since I joined the Army in 1976, I’m ashamed of its dereliction of duty. The chain of command protected a budding terrorist who was waving one red flag after another. Because it was safer for careers than doing something about him.

Get ready for the apologias. We’ve already heard from the terrorist’s family that "he’s a good American." In their world, maybe he is.

But when do we, the American public, knock off the PC nonsense?

A disgruntled Muslim soldier murdered his officers way back in 2003, in Kuwait, on the eve of Operation Iraqi Freedom. Recently? An American mullah shoots it out with the feds in Detroit. A Muslim fanatic attacks an Arkansas recruiting station. A Muslim media owner, after playing the peace card, beheads his wife. A Muslim father runs over his daughter because she’s becoming too Westernized.

Muslim terrorist wannabes are busted again and again. And we’re assured that "Islam’s a religion of peace."

I guarantee you that the Obama administration’s non-response to the Ft. Hood attack will mock the memory of our dead.

Ralph Peters’ latest novel is "The War After Armageddon



Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/fort_hood_xjP9yGrJN7gl7zdsJ31vnJ#ixzz0W6ow8dPk
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Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2009, 11:26:16 AM »
"Now 12 soldiers and a security guard lie dead. 31 soldiers were wounded, 28 of them seriously. If heads don’t roll in this maggot’s chain of command, the Army will have shamed itself beyond moral redemption. "

They said the FBI was investigating him.  What could the chain of command done for his message board antics?  My guess is that he would have sued whoever for violating his rights, etc etc.

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Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2009, 11:28:44 AM »
Given the myriad warning signs, it’s appalling that no action was taken against a man apparently known to praise suicide bombers and openly damn US policy. But no officer in his chain of command, either at Walter Reed Army Medical Center or at Ft. Hood, had the guts to take meaningful action against a dysfunctional soldier and an incompetent doctor.

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Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2009, 11:31:31 AM »
Its easy to understand HH6:
Liberalism is a mental disorder. 

The military is full of libs?  I thought they'd be the FIRST to pounce on signs of this crap and expel his punk ass.

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Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2009, 11:33:52 AM »
Well....it would easier to bounce me if I did that then a Med Service guy. Ur dealing with Docs and they are well removed from the regular Army..its a different sorta job and culture. If all of this is true they could have done alot more. I'd have to crack open my massive pink UCMJ manuel and look at this to give u a better answer. He can't make statements like that and sign his name. We have blog rules..notice I sign my name. He can say what he wants but when he signs his real name..its taken as official policy or atleast more seriously. Many of the best Active duty milblogs don't advertise their authors. I think he wanted out and played up the harrashment and muslim shit. I would want to know if he did this at Walter Reed when he had a cush job. I have a buddy who just went to Reed..I';ll see what he can did up.
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Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2009, 11:36:36 AM »
Well....it would easier to bounce me if I did that then a Med Service guy. Ur dealing with Docs and they are well removed from the regular Army..its a different sorta job and culture. If all of this is true they could have done alot more. I'd have to crack open my massive pink UCMJ manuel and look at this to give u a better answer. He can't make statements like that and sign his name. We have blog rules..notice I sign my name. He can say what he wants but when he signs his real name..its taken as official policy or atleast more seriously. Many of the best Active duty milblogs don't advertise their authors. I think he wanted out and played up the harrashment and muslim shit. I would want to know if he did this at Walter Reed when he had a cush job. I have a buddy who just went to Reed..I';ll see what he can did up.

This disgusting vermin soaked the taxpayer dry of hundreds of thousands of dollars. 

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Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2009, 11:36:57 AM »
NRO...

It looks like the man who killed 13 soldiers and police at Ft. Hood was a Muslim radical who hated America, resented our occupation of Muslim lands, would not be photographed with women, and chanted "Allahu Akbar" before he launched a one-man terrorist attack, but according to CBS White House Correspondent Mark Knoller, Obama wants to know what really made him do it:


Obama said he met today with FBI Director et al to discuss "what caused one individual to turn his gun on fellow servicemen and women.”


It's hard not to be reminded of Obama's famous post-9/11 remarks, which first came to light in the New Yorker last summer. This from a speech the week after the attacks in which he likewise wanted to know, what would cause a bunch of Muslim fanatics to fly airplanes into American buildings:


We must also engage, however, in the more difficult task of understanding the sources of such madness. The essence of this tragedy, it seems to me, derives from a fundamental absence of empathy on the part of the attackers: an inability to imagine, or connect with, the humanity and suffering of others. Such a failure of empathy, such numbness to the pain of a child or the desperation of a parent, is not innate; nor, history tells us, is it unique to a particular culture, religion, or ethnicity. It may find expression in a particular brand of violence, and may be channeled by particular demagogues or fanatics. Most often, though, it grows out of a climate of poverty and ignorance, helplessness and despair.


You have to wonder: Will Obama still find that the fundamental tragedy was not the murder of 13 Americans at the hands of a terrorist, but the failure of our society to address his grievances before he was forced to turn to violence? Are we still to blame for our indifference to poverty, ignorance, helplessness and despair?
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Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2009, 11:53:39 AM »
Given the myriad warning signs, it’s appalling that no action was taken against a man apparently known to praise suicide bombers and openly damn US policy. But no officer in his chain of command, either at Walter Reed Army Medical Center or at Ft. Hood, had the guts to take meaningful action against a dysfunctional soldier and an incompetent doctor.

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Liberalism is a mental disorder. 

So you polled all the people in his chain of command?  Is that it?  Or where else does your "lib" bullshit claim originate?  Certainly not from proof that is for sure.

So....  explain your bullshit statement here with evidence.

Oh wait.... you can't.  So I guess you will just post a random pic of something irrelevant.

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Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2009, 11:56:20 AM »
Yeah Lurker..u libs have so infested the military with politically correct bullshit..."consideration for others training" ..don't ask don't tell..and all the other shit...they may have dismissed it or thought it wasn't worth the effort, especially if a "muslim" was being harrassed.
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Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2009, 11:57:46 AM »
If anyone would would have reigned this asshole in they would have been accused of profiling and discrimination by who Lurker?

 

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Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2009, 12:00:27 PM »
If anyone would would have reigned this asshole in they would have been accused of profiling and discrimination by who Lurker?

 

Woulda, coulda, shoulda,....   again, WHERE is the evidence of these men in his chain of command's political party affiliation?

Do you have it?  Or are you going to run around in circles like you normally do?

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Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2009, 12:00:41 PM »
Sgt. Asan Akbar, a Muslim American soldier with the 326th Engineer Battalion, had an “attitude problem.”

According to his superiors and acquaintances, Akbar’s attitude was bitterly anti-American and staunchly pro-Muslim. So how did this devout follower of the so-called Religion of Peace work out his attitudinal problems last weekend?

By lobbing hand grenades and aiming his M-4 automatic rifle into three tents filled with sleeping commanding officers at the 101st Airborne Division’s 1st Brigade operations center in Kuwait.

Akbar is the lone suspect being detained in the despicable attack, which left more than a dozen wounded and one dead. Surviving soldiers say Akbar, found cowering in a bunker with shrapnel injuries, was overheard ranting after the assault: “You guys are coming into our countries, and you’re going to rape our women and kill our children.”

“Our”? At least there’s no doubt about where this Religion of Peace practitioner’s true loyalties lie.

Naturally, apologists for Islam-gone-awry are hard at work dismissing this traitorous act of murder as an “isolated, individual act and not an expression of faith.” But such sentiments are willfully blind and recklessly p.c.

Sgt. Akbar is not the only MSWA — Muslim soldier with attitude — suspected of infiltrating our military, endangering our troops and undermining national security:

– Ali A. Mohamed. Mohamed, a major in the Egyptian army, immigrated to the U.S. in 1986 and joined the U.S. Army while a resident alien. This despite being on a State Department terrorist watch list before securing his visa. An avowed Islamist, he taught classes on Muslim culture to U.S. Special Forces at Fort Bragg, N.C., and obtained classified military documents. He was granted U.S. citizenship over the objections of the CIA.

A former classmate, Jason T. Fogg, recalled that Mohamed was openly critical of the American military. “To be in the U.S. military and have so much hate toward the U.S. was odd. He never referred to America as his country.”

Soon after he was honorably discharged from the Army in 1989, Mohamed hooked up with Osama bin Laden as an escort, trainer, bagman and messenger. Mohamed used his U.S. passport to conduct surveillance at the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi; he later pled guilty to conspiring with bin Laden to “attack any Western target in the Middle East” and admitted his role in the 1998 African embassy bombings that killed more than 200 people, including a dozen Americans.

Ain’t multiculturalism grand?

– Semi Osman. An ethnic Lebanese born in Sierra Leone and a Seattle-based Muslim cleric, Osman served in a naval reserve fueling unit based in Tacoma, Wash. He had access to fuel trucks similar to the type used by al Qaeda in the 1996 bombing of the Khobar Towers, which killed 19 U.S. airmen and wounded nearly 400 other Americans.

Osman was arrested last May as part of a federal investigation into the establishment of a terrorist training camp in Bly, Oregon. Osman recently pleaded guilty to a weapons violation, and the feds dropped immigration charges against him in exchange for his testimony.

Ain’t open borders grand?

– John Muhammad. The accused Beltway sniper and Muslim convert was a member of the Army’s 84th Engineering Company. In an eerie parallel to the Akbar case, Muhammad is suspected of throwing a thermite grenade into a tent housing 16 of his fellow soldiers as they slept before the ground-attack phase of Gulf War I in 1991. Muhammad’s superior, Sgt. Kip Berentson, told both Newsweek and The Seattle Times that he immediately suspected Muhammad, who was “trouble from day one.”

Curiously, Muhammad was admitted to the Army despite being earlier court-martialed for willfully disobeying orders, striking another noncommissioned officer, wrongfully taking property, and being absent without leave while serving in the Louisiana National Guard.

Although Muhammad was led away in handcuffs and transferred to another company pending charges for the grenade attack, an indictment never materialized. Muhammad was honorably discharged from the Army in 1994. Eight years later, he was arrested in the 21-day Beltway shooting spree that left 10 dead and three wounded.

Ain’t tolerance grand?

– Jeffrey Leon Battle. A former Army reservist, Battle was indicted in October 2002 for conspiring to levy war against the United States and “enlisting in the Reserves to receive military training to use against America.” According to the Justice Department, he planned to wage war against American soldiers in Afghanistan.

Ain’t diversity grand?

“It’s bad enough we have to worry about enemy forces, but now we have to worry about our own guys,” Spc. Autumn Simmer told the Los Angeles Times this week after the assault on the 101st Airborne. The Islamist infiltration of our troops is scandalous. Not one more American, soldier or civilian, must be sacrificed at the altar of multiculturalism, diversity, open borders, and tolerance of the murderous “attitude” of Jihad.
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Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2009, 12:01:26 PM »
Yeah Lurker..u libs have so infested the military with politically correct bullshit..."consideration for others training" ..don't ask don't tell..and all the other shit...they may have dismissed it or thought it wasn't worth the effort, especially if a "muslim" was being harrassed.

Again, proof of the men above him being "libs".

Either supply it or continue to whine like the idiot you are.

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Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2009, 12:01:49 PM »
Thats not his point...its u douchebag libs...ever since Clinton that have infected the Military, like its some kind of social science experiment, with ur bullshit.
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Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2009, 12:02:09 PM »
Woulda, coulda, shoulda,....   again, WHERE is the evidence of these men in his chain of command's political party affiliation?

Do you have it?  Or are you going to run around in circles like you normally do?

Bad weeks for libs, i get it.  

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Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2009, 12:02:48 PM »
Sgt. Asan Akbar, a Muslim American soldier with the 326th Engineer Battalion, had an “attitude problem.”

According to his superiors and acquaintances, Akbar’s attitude was bitterly anti-American and staunchly pro-Muslim. So how did this devout follower of the so-called Religion of Peace work out his attitudinal problems last weekend?

By lobbing hand grenades and aiming his M-4 automatic rifle into three tents filled with sleeping commanding officers at the 101st Airborne Division’s 1st Brigade operations center in Kuwait.

Akbar is the lone suspect being detained in the despicable attack, which left more than a dozen wounded and one dead. Surviving soldiers say Akbar, found cowering in a bunker with shrapnel injuries, was overheard ranting after the assault: “You guys are coming into our countries, and you’re going to rape our women and kill our children.”

“Our”? At least there’s no doubt about where this Religion of Peace practitioner’s true loyalties lie.

Naturally, apologists for Islam-gone-awry are hard at work dismissing this traitorous act of murder as an “isolated, individual act and not an expression of faith.” But such sentiments are willfully blind and recklessly p.c.

Sgt. Akbar is not the only MSWA — Muslim soldier with attitude — suspected of infiltrating our military, endangering our troops and undermining national security:

– Ali A. Mohamed. Mohamed, a major in the Egyptian army, immigrated to the U.S. in 1986 and joined the U.S. Army while a resident alien. This despite being on a State Department terrorist watch list before securing his visa. An avowed Islamist, he taught classes on Muslim culture to U.S. Special Forces at Fort Bragg, N.C., and obtained classified military documents. He was granted U.S. citizenship over the objections of the CIA.

A former classmate, Jason T. Fogg, recalled that Mohamed was openly critical of the American military. “To be in the U.S. military and have so much hate toward the U.S. was odd. He never referred to America as his country.”

Soon after he was honorably discharged from the Army in 1989, Mohamed hooked up with Osama bin Laden as an escort, trainer, bagman and messenger. Mohamed used his U.S. passport to conduct surveillance at the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi; he later pled guilty to conspiring with bin Laden to “attack any Western target in the Middle East” and admitted his role in the 1998 African embassy bombings that killed more than 200 people, including a dozen Americans.

Ain’t multiculturalism grand?

– Semi Osman. An ethnic Lebanese born in Sierra Leone and a Seattle-based Muslim cleric, Osman served in a naval reserve fueling unit based in Tacoma, Wash. He had access to fuel trucks similar to the type used by al Qaeda in the 1996 bombing of the Khobar Towers, which killed 19 U.S. airmen and wounded nearly 400 other Americans.

Osman was arrested last May as part of a federal investigation into the establishment of a terrorist training camp in Bly, Oregon. Osman recently pleaded guilty to a weapons violation, and the feds dropped immigration charges against him in exchange for his testimony.

Ain’t open borders grand?

– John Muhammad. The accused Beltway sniper and Muslim convert was a member of the Army’s 84th Engineering Company. In an eerie parallel to the Akbar case, Muhammad is suspected of throwing a thermite grenade into a tent housing 16 of his fellow soldiers as they slept before the ground-attack phase of Gulf War I in 1991. Muhammad’s superior, Sgt. Kip Berentson, told both Newsweek and The Seattle Times that he immediately suspected Muhammad, who was “trouble from day one.”

Curiously, Muhammad was admitted to the Army despite being earlier court-martialed for willfully disobeying orders, striking another noncommissioned officer, wrongfully taking property, and being absent without leave while serving in the Louisiana National Guard.

Although Muhammad was led away in handcuffs and transferred to another company pending charges for the grenade attack, an indictment never materialized. Muhammad was honorably discharged from the Army in 1994. Eight years later, he was arrested in the 21-day Beltway shooting spree that left 10 dead and three wounded.

Ain’t tolerance grand?

– Jeffrey Leon Battle. A former Army reservist, Battle was indicted in October 2002 for conspiring to levy war against the United States and “enlisting in the Reserves to receive military training to use against America.” According to the Justice Department, he planned to wage war against American soldiers in Afghanistan.

Ain’t diversity grand?

“It’s bad enough we have to worry about enemy forces, but now we have to worry about our own guys,” Spc. Autumn Simmer told the Los Angeles Times this week after the assault on the 101st Airborne. The Islamist infiltration of our troops is scandalous. Not one more American, soldier or civilian, must be sacrificed at the altar of multiculturalism, diversity, open borders, and tolerance of the murderous “attitude” of Jihad.


Not a single word in there that identifies any sort of "liberal" claims.

Again, no proof posted.  FAIL

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Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2009, 12:03:26 PM »
Bad weeks for libs, i get it.  

In that case, you must be a lib because you have failed at your usual whining all week long.

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Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2009, 12:12:25 PM »
In that case, you must be a lib because you have failed at your usual whining all week long.

nobody's talking about the repub blowout on tues anymore.

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« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2009, 12:13:16 PM »
nobody's talking about the repub blowout on tues anymore.

There will be one in 2010 as well.  1994 is going to look like nothing. 

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Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2009, 12:20:26 PM »
Lurker...um I didn't make the claim that this assmonkey was a lib...He's a muslim thats joined a long list of other worthless muslims who have killed fellow soldiers. Its u douchbags that have created a climate that doesn't allow the Military to easily bounce shitbags like this..I'm sorry that u idiots got crushed on Tuesday and u can no longer think coherently..but thats not my problem.
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Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2009, 12:42:25 PM »
What does any of this have to do with liberalism?

So it's liberals fault that this man snapped?

So it's liberals fault that this man was allowed to spew his views and nothing was done about it in the army?

I think no one in the military had the balls to do something about it before hand.

He should have been pulled in and asked about his beliefs and shown the door.  It would have be easy to get him out of the army and everyone would have understood.  At least everyone who mattered which is the main populace of America.  Of course there would have been the standard weak sauce out cry by the same lame interest groups. But so what?

Bottom line is, something should have been done about this asshole before this.   

I bet now something will be done about anyone else who has barfing out anti-american crap in the military.

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« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2009, 12:48:40 PM »
What does any of this have to do with liberalism?

So it's liberals fault that this man snapped?

So it's liberals fault that this man was allowed to spew his views and nothing was done about it in the army?

I think no one in the military had the balls to do something about it before hand.

He should have been pulled in and asked about his beliefs and shown the door.  It would have be easy to get him out of the army and everyone would have understood.  At least everyone who mattered which is the main populace of America.  Of course there would have been the standard weak sauce out cry by the same lame interest groups. But so what?

Bottom line is, something should have been done about this asshole before this.   

I bet now something will be done about anyone else who has barfing out anti-american crap in the military.


GMAFB - people are afraid to poiint out the sick maniacs in our midst for fear of retribution, claims of racisim and bigotry, profiiling, etc. 

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Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2009, 12:51:26 PM »
GMAFB - people are afraid to poiint out the sick maniacs in our midst for fear of retribution, claims of racisim and bigotry, profiiling, etc. 

GMAFB?  What does that mean?

Some of what this guy was saying was treasonous.  You can't have that in an army.  Fuck what anyone thinks.

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Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2009, 12:55:04 PM »
GMAFB?  What does that mean?

Some of what this guy was saying was treasonous.  You can't have that in an army.  Fuck what anyone thinks.

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Ask HH6 what would happen if he reported this. 

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Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2009, 12:59:32 PM »
What's the answer to this problem, though? Take all Muslims out of service? I'm sure that organizations like the CIA employ many Muslims (including American Muslims) who are just as patriotic as us and helping to fight these radical nutjobs.