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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2009, 07:56:37 AM »
I agree about the message of the campaign.   The reality is that the relection in 2012 will be all about timing and the economy. 

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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2009, 08:28:20 AM »
where's the abuse of power.... I mean other than in your imagination?
are you shitting me straw, was the patriot act constitutional? pretty sure you bitched about it...but when obama  continues it and actually furthers its end youre ok with it?

how about the govt being able to fire and appoint ppl to head public companies....you think thats constitutional as well i guess?

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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2009, 08:36:17 AM »
Ton:  Straw did not know about this.  But add this to the list.

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The White House Fires a Watchdog
The curious case of the inspector general and a Presidential ally
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President Obama swept to office on the promise of a new kind of politics, but then how do you explain last week's dismissal of federal Inspector General Gerald Walpin for the crime of trying to protect taxpayer dollars? This is a case that smells of political favoritism and Chicago rules.

A George W. Bush appointee, Mr. Walpin has since 2007 been the inspector general for the Corporation for National and Community Service, the federal agency that oversees such subsidized volunteer programs as AmeriCorps. In April 2008 the Corporation asked Mr. Walpin to investigate reports of irregularities at St. HOPE, a California nonprofit run by former NBA star and Obama supporter Kevin Johnson. St. HOPE had received an $850,000 AmeriCorps grant, which was supposed to go for three purposes: tutoring for Sacramento-area students; the redevelopment of several buildings; and theater and art programs.
 
Gerald Walpin, Inspector General of the Corporation For National and Community Service, was fired by President Barack Obama.

Mr. Walpin's investigators discovered that the money had been used instead to pad staff salaries, meddle politically in a school-board election, and have AmeriCorps members perform personal services for Mr. Johnson, including washing his car.

At the end of May, Mr. Walpin's office recommended that Mr. Johnson, an assistant and St. HOPE itself be "suspended" from receiving federal funds. The Corporation's official charged with suspensions agreed, and in September the suspension letters went out. Mr. Walpin's office also sent a civil and/or criminal referral to the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of California.

So far, so normal. But that all changed last fall, when Mr. Johnson was elected mayor of Sacramento. News of the suspension had become public, and President Obama began to discuss his federal stimulus spending. A city-hired attorney pronounced in March that Sacramento might be barred from receiving stimulus funds because of Mr. Johnson's suspension.

The news caused a public uproar. The U.S. Attorney's office, which since January has been headed by Lawrence Brown -- a career prosecutor who took over when the Bush-appointed Attorney left -- had already decided not to pursue criminal charges. Media and political pressure then mounted for the office to settle the issue and lift Mr. Johnson's suspension. Mr. Walpin agreed Mr. Johnson should pay back money but objected to lifting the suspension. He noted that Mr. Johnson has never officially responded to the Corporation's findings and that the entire point of suspension is to keep federal funds from individuals shown to have misused them.

Mr. Brown's office responded by cutting off contact with Mr. Walpin's office and began working directly with the Corporation, the board of which is now chaired by one of Mr. Obama's top campaign fundraisers, Alan Solomont. A few days later, Mr. Brown's office produced a settlement draft that significantly watered down any financial repayment and cleared Mr. Johnson. Mr. Walpin told us that in all his time working with U.S. Attorneys on cases he'd referred, he'd never been cut out in such fashion.

Mr. Walpin brought his concerns to the Corporation's board, but some board members were angry over a separate Walpin investigation into the wrongful disbursement of $80 million to the City University of New York. Concerned about the St. HOPE mess, Mr. Walpin wrote a 29-page report, signed by two other senior members of his office, and submitted it in April to Congress. Last Wednesday, he got a phone call from a White House lawyer telling him to resign within an hour or be fired.

We've long disliked the position of inspectors general, on grounds that they are creatures of Congress designed to torment the executive. Yet this case appears to be one in which an IG was fired because he criticized a favorite Congressional and executive project (AmeriCorps), and refused to bend to political pressure to let the Sacramento mayor have his stimulus dollars.

There's also the question of how Mr. Walpin was terminated. He says the phone call came from Norman Eisen, the Special Counsel to the President for Ethics and Government Reform, who said the President felt it was time for Mr. Walpin to "move on," and that it was "pure coincidence" he was asked to leave during the St. HOPE controversy. Yet the Administration has already had to walk back that claim.

That's because last year Congress passed the Inspectors General Reform Act, which requires the President to give Congress 30 days notice, plus a reason, before firing an inspector general. A co-sponsor of that bill was none other than Senator Obama. Having failed to pressure Mr. Walpin into resigning (which in itself might violate the law), the Administration was forced to say he'd be terminated in 30 days, and to tell Congress its reasons.

White House Counsel Gregory Craig cited a complaint that had been lodged against Mr. Walpin by Mr. Brown, the U.S. Attorney, accusing Mr. Walpin of misconduct, and of not really having the goods on Mr. Johnson. But this is curious given that Mr. Brown himself settled with St. HOPE, Mr. Johnson and his assistant, an agreement that required St. HOPE (with a financial assist from Mr. Johnson) to repay approximately half of the grant, and also required Mr. Johnson to take an online course about bookkeeping.

Iowa Republican Chuck Grassley, a co-sponsor of the IG Reform Act, is now demanding that the Corporation hand over its communications on this mess. He also wants to see any contact with the office of First Lady Michelle Obama, who has taken a particular interest in AmeriCorps, and whose former chief of staff, Jackie Norris, recently arrived at the Corporation as a "senior adviser."

If this seems like small beer, keep in mind that Mr. Obama promised to carefully watch how every stimulus dollar is spent. In this case, the evidence suggests that his White House fired a public official who refused to roll over to protect a Presidential crony.

Printed in The Wall Street Journal, page A13
Copyright 2009 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved

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This is another investigation working its way through. 

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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2009, 08:45:17 AM »
are you shitting me straw, was the patriot act constitutional? pretty sure you bitched about it...but when obama  continues it and actually furthers its end youre ok with it?

how about the govt being able to fire and appoint ppl to head public companies....you think thats constitutional as well i guess?

what public company are you talking about.  Are you referring to ones that we bailed out and wouldn't still be in business otherwises?

are you kidding me?  You're going to try to blaim Obama for the Patriot Act?  I'm not happy that Obama is continuing anything that Bush has done but find some actual allegations, investigation and conclusion and then we'll have something to talk about.

btw - if you're going to get your panties in a knot over anything Obama is doing then show me the posts where you objected when Bush was doing those same things.

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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2009, 08:58:22 AM »
Ton:  Straw did not know about this.  But add this to the list.
This is another investigation working its way through. 

how about we wait until the investigation is actually done and see if the Obama Admin did anything wrong.

If Obama is found to have abused his power .....as Palin was found to have done....AND he then pretends the exact opposite.....then I will gladly join you in ridiculing him for being a liar just like Palin was in the the "troopergate" case (did you notice she tried to reframe it as "tasergate"?)

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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2009, 09:00:53 AM »
how about we wait until the investigation is actually done and see if the Obama Admin did anything wrong.

If Obama is found to have abused his power .....as Palin was found to have done....AND he then pretends the exact opposite.....then I will gladly join you in ridiculing him for being a liar just like Palin was in the the "troopergate" case (did you notice she tried to reframe it as "tasergate"?)

Did she do anything illegal - YES or NO? 

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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2009, 09:03:55 AM »
Did she do anything illegal - YES or NO? 

thats pretty poor logic.

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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2009, 09:06:07 AM »
thats pretty poor logic.

Why?  "Abused Power" is a subjective term unless its accompained with a legal ruling one way or the other on the merits. 



 

 

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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2009, 09:10:05 AM »
you said " DID SHE DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL? "

by that same logic, i guess we should give al gore a pass for buying up green energy stocks and propping up man made global warming rhetoric?

theres nothing illegal about what hes doing either.

yep. What hes doing is just fine and dandy.

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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2009, 09:11:04 AM »
The first finding listed in the Branchflower Report:

1.Governor Sarah Palin abused her power as Governor in that her conduct violated AS 39.52.110(a) of the Ethics Act, which provides "The legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust."

Palin responded by saying, "About the Tasergate issue... I'm very very pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing, any hint of any kind of unethical activity there."

For anyone who can read English the report clearly says that Palin abused the power of her office and her conduct violated the Ethics Act.

Palin thinks the report cleared of her of "ANY HINT Of ANY KIND OF UNETHICAL ACTVITY THERE"

Palins statement is a flat out LIE

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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2009, 09:17:00 AM »
Wow, they did find that she abused her power.  great find, straw man.

She didn't break the law, but she did show that she'll wipe her ass with ethics - just like Obama did with the rezco thing.

maybe in 2012 the GOP will pick a candidate that hasn't been officially found to have abused their power.

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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2009, 09:21:27 AM »
brutal double standards shown by our resident lib, 333386

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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2009, 09:23:20 AM »

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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2009, 09:27:53 AM »
Wow, they did find that she abused her power.  great find, straw man.

She didn't break the law, but she did show that she'll wipe her ass with ethics - just like Obama did with the rezco thing.

maybe in 2012 the GOP will pick a candidate that hasn't been officially found to have abused their power.

not hard to find.  It was all over the news at the time.

Time magazine did an article about how completely amatuerish the whole thing was handled by the Palin admin at the time.

Some excerpts:  

But the Branchflower report still makes for good reading, if only because it convincingly answers a question nobody had even thought to ask: Is the Palin administration shockingly amateurish? Yes, it is. Disturbingly so.


A harsh verdict? Consider the report's findings. Not only did people at almost every level of the Palin administration engage in repeated inappropriate contact with Walt Monegan and other high-ranking officials at the Department of Public Safety, but Monegan and his peers constantly warned these Palin disciples that the contact was inappropriate and probably unlawful. Still, the emails and calls continued — in at least one instance on recorded state trooper phone lines.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1849399,00.html


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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2009, 09:29:08 AM »
brutal double standards shown by our resident lib, 333386

Hysterical coming from the same people who defended Clinton, even when he was shown to have violated the law and was disbarred.   

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« Reply #40 on: November 27, 2009, 09:33:33 AM »
Hysterical coming from the same people who defended Clinton, even when he was shown to have violated the law and was disbarred.   

ill ask you again. should we giv al gore a pass?

i dont want to hear a peep from you again about al gore, you lib.

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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #41 on: November 27, 2009, 09:36:12 AM »
ill ask you again. should we giv al gore a pass?

i dont want to hear a peep from you again about al gore, you lib.

Unfortunately, he did nothing illegal.  It may be slimy, but is not illegal.   

however, what he deserves to be flogged for is his advocacy of a lie that he is seeking to use to enrich himself, regulate citizens' lives, etc.   

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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2009, 09:36:33 AM »
Hysterical coming from the same people who defended Clinton, even when he was shown to have violated the law and was disbarred.   

nice act of desperation reaching back to Clinton

you might recall he was impeached

what's that got to do with Palin

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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #43 on: November 27, 2009, 09:37:56 AM »
YOU KNOW 333386 IS BEAT WHEN HE CHANGES THE SUBJECT :'(

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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #44 on: November 27, 2009, 09:38:41 AM »
Unfortunately, he did nothing illegal.  It may be slimy, but is not illegal.   

however, what he deserves to be flogged for is his advocacy of a lie that he is seeking to use to enrich himself, regulate citizens' lives, etc.   

Was Gore accused of wrongdoing, investigated and found to be in violation of an ethics code and then pretended that the investigation reached the exact opposite result?

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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #45 on: November 27, 2009, 09:42:16 AM »
Was Gore accused of wrongdoing, investigated and found to be in violation of an ethics code and then pretended that the investigation reached the exact opposite result?

Of course not, he was not in a position for that to happen in the first place. 


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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #46 on: November 27, 2009, 09:48:24 AM »
Of course not, he was not in a position for that to happen in the first place. 

so there is absolutely no relevence to the so called "Troopergate" situation with Palin

Did you read that Time Magazine link I posted.  Palin made no attempt to hide anything at the time even after being warned repeatedly that her actions were inappropriate

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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #47 on: November 27, 2009, 09:51:23 AM »
Ok fine, what do you want?  A Nobel Prize?

This dirtbag threateneed to kill her father, was a poacher, and tazed a 10 y/o. 

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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #48 on: November 27, 2009, 10:07:59 AM »
Ok fine, what do you want?  A Nobel Prize?

This dirtbag threateneed to kill her father, was a poacher, and tazed a 10 y/o.  

Like I said on the first page,  Palin and everyone associated with her seem NUTTY to me and I'm certainly no defending any of that stuff.   The worst of those three (IMO) is the Taser thing because he supposedly did it because the kid wanted to show off for Palins daughter.  This whole family tree is wack.    Palins sister marries this idiot and Palins other future in law is arrested for dealing meth?
WTF is up with this family?

Didn't the police investigate all those allegations?

Results of internal police investigation
On October 29, 2005, Sgt. Wall issued a Memorandum of Findings[26] describing the results of his investigation.

Death threat
Wall's investigation report dated October 29, 2005 found that Wooten violated internal policy, but not the law, in making a death threat against Molly McCann's father Heath on February 17, 2005. Molly McCann, Sarah Palin and Track Palin said that he made the threat. Wooten said that he didn't make the threat. Wall decided that he had in fact done so. Wall concluded that the death threat was not a crime because Wooten did not threaten the father directly; therefore, Wall deemed the threat to be a violation of trooper policy rather than a violation of criminal law. Although the death threat was listed as a violation of trooper policy OPM 101.070(A) Unbecoming Conduct and OPM 101.070(B) Personal Conduct in the Memorandum of Findings, it was not mentioned at all in the suspension letter[32] sent to Wooten by Col. Grimes on March 1, 2006.

Moose hunt
The investigation found that Wooten had committed a hunting violation in shooting a moose without a permit: he had been out hunting with McCann in September 2003 and had shot the animal himself even though their permit was in McCann's name only.[26] According to subsequent news reports, McCann had obtained the permit but balked at killing the moose herself, so she handed the gun to her then-husband, who shot the animal.[33]

Taser incidentWooten was also found to have violated department policy in using a Taser on his then 11-year old stepson in 2003. He told investigators that he did so "in a training capacity" after the child had asked to be tased. In a September 2008 newspaper interview, Wooten said that he set the Taser to "test" mode, meaning that it was on low power.[34][35] In a statement to police, the boy said "he wanted to be tased to show that he's not a mommy's boy in front of Bristol [his cousin, Palin's daughter]. Following being tased he went upstairs to tell his mother that he was fine."[21] In a statement to police, Molly McCann said "she was up stairs giving a bath to the kids … Mike was going to show Payton what it feels like and she told Mike that he better not."[21] According to Molly's account, she remained upstairs during the incident.
Although the Taser incident happened in 2003, it was not reported to police until on or after April 11, 2005, the day McCann filed for divorce. On June 6, 2005, a police investigator asked Bristol why they "waited so long and brought the incident up after two years." Bristol said "because of the divorce and stuff".[21][/color]

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Re: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
« Reply #49 on: November 27, 2009, 10:51:34 AM »
FROM DRUDGE REPORT OLD FOOTAGE OF TROOPER
http://www.mefeedia.com/video/25145381