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Could Jay Cutler have beat Dorian Yates?
« on: May 27, 2005, 03:27:06 AM »
Here are some Photos of Dorian,Cutler has a lock on second place at MrO but if Dorian was at his best and competing who would come second.Ronnie would still be King or would he be?.
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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2005, 03:29:36 AM »
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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2005, 03:31:39 AM »
judging from dorian's series of black eyes, lots of people have been beating him.

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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2005, 03:37:45 AM »
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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2005, 03:50:19 AM »
You would think that a multiple MrO would stay in shape(BIG)especially if his trying to sell his own supplement line.
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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2005, 03:53:34 AM »
You would think that a multiple MrO would stay in shape(BIG)especially if his trying to sell his own supplement line.
maybe he cant take roids anymore or he will die.

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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2005, 04:41:35 AM »
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FYI, that's Fux on this rear lat spread picture
and Dorian wouldn't place in the top 5 at the Olympia nowadays

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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2005, 04:56:00 AM »
he wouldt plae atall if he enterd in the shape he is just now... but if Dorian started his career just now he would place top 6 it would be a battle between Cutler,Coleman and Yates...

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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2005, 05:04:13 AM »
You would think that a multiple MrO would stay in shape(BIG)especially if his trying to sell his own supplement line.

Why is there always one whiner who has to make this comment. 

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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2005, 05:40:41 AM »
1993 Yates was awesome.

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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2005, 05:45:56 AM »
Dorian's condition was light years ahead of Jays has ever been.

I didnt like his gut but his condition was unique - looks like he was carved out of stone.

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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2005, 05:50:16 AM »
It's NOT Dorian on the 5:th pic. It's JP Fux.

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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2005, 05:51:06 AM »
Dorian's condition was light years ahead of Jays has ever been.

I didnt like his gut but his condition was unique - looks like he was carved out of stone.

Agreed.

Dorian's so called "grainy" condition and dryness was one his strengths. If Cutler could ever attain that level of conditioning (somewhat unlikely) and retain his mass, there could well be a new Mr. O.

As a side note, Cutler did get very ripped at the 2004 ASC, but lost a lot of size and looked flat.
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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2005, 06:25:06 AM »
It's NOT Dorian on the 5:th pic. It's JP Fux.
Sorry about that i was not playing close attention.Anyway i deleted it.
Why is there always one whiner who has to make this comment.

I think it is a fair assesment that if you are promoting a supplement line as Dorian is you must look the part.With Dorians marketing of his own supplements it is perplexing that he is not in good shape, the only exscuse is if he has a medical condition
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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2005, 06:34:28 AM »
I think Jay could beat Dorian. Jay is 5'9 and weighs 275lb on stage. Thats 2 inches shorter than Dorian and 20lbs heavier.

Jay cutler is a better version of Nasser with a MUCH better back. We all know that Nasser gave Dorian a run for his money in 95, 96, and 97.

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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2005, 07:01:59 AM »
Since when did we start throwing around competitors' weights as if that had any relevance to how they look onstage?

Who gives a fuck if Jay weighs 20 lbs. more than Dorian did?  That doesn't mean shit unless he looks better.  The bigger Jay has gotten, the more he has obliterated the lines and small details that he once had.

Maybe bodybuilding judges really do have a "bigger is better" mentality these days, which is pretty sad if they do.

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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2005, 07:16:08 AM »
In Dorian best shape and size he weighed approx 267 pounds and i doubt Cutler was 20 pounds heavier.
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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2005, 07:29:41 AM »
maybe he cant take roids anymore or he will die.

many other past bbers still looks good from healthy eating, steady lifting, and probably HRT treatment. Dorian looks like he eats chips all day. Lee Haney looks like he trains 5 day a week still.

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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2005, 07:39:04 AM »
Blah he's done everything he needed to in the sport, he's been massive, he's won the top crown many times.   Why is it so hard to imagine that he couldnt' be bothered holding on to some poxy shape (poxy compared to what he was).  Its like playing to 100,000 people and then going back to playing in bars.   

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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2005, 07:58:45 AM »
When you invest vast amounts of money in a product supplements image is eveything Dorian should resemble a powerfull bodybuilder if he can not do this for personel reasons or medical he should sign a Pro to help market them.
At university i learnt image is everything in marketing and Dorian looking 200 pounds in ordinary shape would  sell x amount of product or if Dorian was in fantastic shape he would sell 4x time amount of product.
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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2005, 08:01:21 AM »
in person at an event, anyone who meets him is going to be a real fan (attending a BBing show) who understands that the gear does most of the work, and will prob try his product just to get to visit his stand and have a pic taken.

But 99% of that product is going to be sold at GNC and Vitamin Worlds across the USA to ppl who haven't seen getbig or met him in person and still believe he looks like he did in 93, the image they'll likely have on the package and marketing materials.


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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2005, 08:01:23 AM »
The lat spread pic IS Dorian- someone said it was Fux.  Anway, Jay and Dorian are 2 different men- if the judges were looking for freaky vascularity with hardness, Dorian would win hands down.  Jay could win too depending on what the judges were looking for.

As far as how Dorian looks now, only think I would suggest is getting a tan!.  Guys give Dorian a break- I'm sure he doesnt' cycle anymore and looks good for his age and not being "on".  It's funny how guys like Dorian get slammed on the board when they quit roids and then guyslike Don Youngblood get slammed because they took them when they were too old..?  Give everybody a break guys and be fair.

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Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2005, 08:01:44 AM »
 cutler could never beat him based on his graininess alone.
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