So who here would fight Kimbo?

[@Brandon]

Because I remember he said the exact oposite in an interview.
and he looked SUPER IMPROVED

Watch the language boy.

Ask Bas, just ask him or anyone citing Bas final verdict on Kimbo.
Case closed.

Houston and Kimbo have the worst groundgame in UFC.

You are basically a good kid,
but lost in many areas.

[spinnis]

Watch the language boy.

Ask Bas, just ask him or anyone citing Bas final verdict on Kimbo.
Case closed.

You are basically a good kid,
but lost in many areas.

I love bas but that means hes a two faced fuck then, because he said kimbo is super motivated and wanting to learn at first. And the same on the show.

[@Brandon]

I love bas but that means hes a two faced fuck then, because he said kimbo is super motivated and wanting to learn at first. And the same on the show.

I know, Bas is all about the money, he hyped Kimbo 2007.

Fact remains Kimbo did not learn any ground game in 2years
and Bas calls Kimbo a lazy retard who is unable to listen or learn.

On the other hand, modern MMA have passed Bas
and he may not be a good trainer anymore.

[americanbulldog]

god damnit you're stuoid.

Im sure you can prove when bas said that? Because I remember he said the exact oposite in an interview. And rashad/rampage said the Exact opposite on the show also.

and he looked SUPER IMPROVED in his last fight on the ground, stayed calm, didn't panic.

obviously needs more training though. It takes years and years to become a good BJJ unless your name is bj prenn.

Bas did an interview to clear the air awhile back.  It was on every major MMA website.  He cited Kimbo's newly acquired work ethic.  When asked if he wanted to work takedown defense (against Shamrock), Kimbo told him it ain't going to the ground.  This started the divide between Bas and Kimbo.  If you search for it, you can find it.  I believe him losing to Seth was the best thing, prior to that, he was believing the Elite XC hype.  He maybe willing to learn (he did tuck his ego and go to ATT), but he is long in the tooth, has an arthritic knee and has one, maybe two years left to make his bread.  Willingness to learn is not equal to an acquired skill.  By your own analogy, it takes years and years to become good.  Demian Maia got his BB in four years, Saulo Ribeiro in 3.5, what most don't know is these guys were training two to three times a day, DAILY.  It is doubtful if Kimbo can devote that much time, or is willing to.  The minute he fights a very good wrestler, he will be done.  And I don't think he will have acquired a dangerous guard anytime soon.

Randy Kitani did most of Kimbo's training, Bas did fight prep and cornered him.  

Who can Kimbo fight in the heavys that won't destroy his image?  Cain would take him down and TKO him.  Carwin could KO him on their feet or take him down and finish him.  Kongo, way too big and too superior at striking.  Mir, would sub him easily.  Nog would take him anywhere he wanted, who is left for him to fight, other than his TUF alumn who he couldn't beat? 

[Option D]

SINCITY'S DAD

lol..i remember that

[big L dawg]

Who can Kimbo fight in the heavys that won't destroy his image?  Cain would take him down and TKO him.  Carwin could KO him on their feet or take him down and finish him.  Kongo, way too big and too superior at striking.  Mir, would sub him easily.  Nog would take him anywhere he wanted, who is left for him to fight, other than his TUF alumn who he couldn't beat? 

you just named four of the top ten fighters in the heavyweight division...I know this is a bodybuilding forum but I sometimes wonder why I even bother posting about MMA on here as most people cant name any fighters besides the champs or the main title contenders....not saying you personaly per se but why would you bring up just the guys that are in contention for the title....1 fight in the UFC & he should go up against a top 5 or top 10 guy?

heres some heavyweights...yea some might kill him...but theres others that would be good matchups...

Al Turk  Mostapha  6-5-0  6' 2" (188 cm) 242 (110 kg) 
Barry  Pat  5-1-0  5' 11" (180 cm) 235 (107 kg) 
Buentello  Paul  25-10-0  6' 2" (188 cm) 235 (107 kg)   
Ciesnolevicz  Mike  18-4-1  6' 1" (185 cm) 230 (104 kg) 
Cro Cop  Mirko  25-7-2, 1 NC  6' 2" (188 cm) 220 (100 kg) 
Dos Santos  Junior  9-1-0  6' 4" (193 cm) 238 (108 kg) 
Duffee  Todd  6-0-0  6' 3" (191 cm) 260 (118 kg) 
Eilers  Justin  9-5-1  6' 1" (185 cm) 235 (107 kg) 
Frazier  Zane  0-2-0  6' 6" (198 cm) 230 (104 kg) 
Gonzaga  Gabriel  11-4-0  6' 1" (185 cm) 242 (110 kg) 
Gordeau  Gerard  2-1-0  6' 5" (196 cm) 215 (98 kg) 
Gormley  Chase  6-0-0  6' 3" (191 cm) 265 (120 kg) 
Gracie  Rolles  3-0-0  6' 4" (193 cm) 240 (109 kg) 
Hague  Tim  10-2-0  6' 4" (193 cm) 265 (120 kg) 
Hardonk  Antoni  8-6-0  6' 4" (193 cm) 245 (111 kg) 
Herring  Heath  28-14-0  6' 4" (193 cm) 250 (113 kg) 
Kongo  Cheick  24-5-1  6' 4" (193 cm) 240 (109 kg)   
Rothwell  Ben  30-7-0  6' 4" (193 cm) 265 (120 kg) 
Russow  Mike  12-1-0, 1 NC  6' 1" (185 cm) 255 (116 kg) 
Smith  Patrick  4-2-0  6' 2" (188 cm) 225 (102 kg) 
Struve  Stefan  22-3-0  6' 11" (211 cm) 238 (108 kg) 
Tuchscherer  Chris  17-2-0, 1 NC  6' 1" (185 cm) 260 (118 kg) 
 

[big L dawg]

not to mention he was only 7 lbs away from fighting at light heavy which also provide some intriguing matchups...

Al-Hassan  Razak  7-2-0  6' 2" (188 cm) 205 (93 kg) 
Belfort  Vitor  19-8-0  6' 0" (183 cm) 195 (88 kg) 
Bonnar  Stephan  14-6-0  6' 4" (193 cm) 205 (93 kg) 
Brilz  Jason  17-2-1  5' 11" (180 cm) 205 (93 kg) 
Cane  Luiz  11-2-1  6' 2" (188 cm) 205 (93 kg) 
Cantwell  Steve  7-3-0  6' 2" (188 cm) 205 (93 kg)   
DeLucia  Jason  2-2-0  5' 11" (180 cm) 190 (86 kg) 
Evans  Rashad  18-1-1  5' 11" (180 cm) 205 (93 kg) 
Franklin  Rich  27-5-0, 1 NC  6' 1" (185 cm) 195 (88 kg) 
Griffin  Forrest  17-6-0  6' 3" (191 cm) 205 (93 kg) 
Gustafsson  Alexander  9-0-0  6' 5" (196 cm) 205 (93 kg) 
Hamill  Matt  9-2-0  6' 1" (185 cm) 205 (93 kg) 
Hamman  Jared  11-2-0  6' 3" (191 cm) 205 (93 kg) 
Irvin  James  14-5-1  6' 2" (188 cm) 205 (93 kg) 
Jackson  Quinton  30-7-0  6' 1" (185 cm) 205 (93 kg) 
Jardine  Keith  14-7-1  6' 2" (188 cm) 205 (93 kg) 
Jimmerson  Art  0-1-0  6' 1" (185 cm) 196 (89 kg) 
Jones  Jon  9-1-0  6' 4" (193 cm) 205 (93 kg) 
Kingsbury  Kyle  8-2-0, 1 NC  6' 4" (193 cm) 205 (93 kg) 
Lee  James  25-3-0  5' 11" (180 cm) 205 (93 kg) 
Liddell  Chuck  21-7-0  6' 2" (188 cm) 205 (93 kg)   
Marshall  Eliot  8-2-0  6' 3" (191 cm) 205 (93 kg) 
Matyushenko  Vladimir  23-4-0  6' 0" (183 cm) 205 (93 kg) 
Mezger  Guy  44-13-6  6' 1" (185 cm) 200 (91 kg) 
Nogueira  Antonio Rogerio  18-3-0  6' 2" (188 cm) 205 (93 kg) 
Ortiz  Tito  16-7-1  6' 3" (191 cm) 205 (93 kg) 
Pokrajac  Igor  21-6-0  6' 0" (183 cm) 205 (93 kg) 
Schafer  Eric  13-4-2  6' 3" (191 cm) 205 (93 kg) 
Schoenauer  Alex    6' 3" (191 cm) 205 (93 kg) 
Silva  Wanderlei  32-10-1, 1 NC  5' 11" (180 cm) 195 (88 kg)   
Soszynski  Krzysztof  19-10-1  6' 1" (185 cm) 205 (93 kg) 
Stann  Brian  8-2-0  6' 1" (185 cm) 205 (93 kg)   
Wallace  Rodney  9-1-0  5' 9" (175 cm) 205 (93 kg) 


like I said not sayin he could beat all these guys...But Damn...Can people try and realize theres other fighters besides Brock,Cain,carwin,Mir,fedor....I mean damn it's like people have turrets of about the same 5 fighters....

[americanbulldog]

you just named four of the top ten fighters in the heavyweight division...I know this is a bodybuilding forum but I sometimes wonder why I even bother posting about MMA on here as most people cant name any fighters besides the champs or the main title contenders....not saying you personaly per se but why would you bring up just the guys that are in contention for the title....1 fight in the UFC & he should go up against a top 5 or top 10 guy?

heres some heavyweights...yea some might kill him...but theres others that would be good matchups...

Al Turk  Mostapha  6-5-0  6' 2" (188 cm) 242 (110 kg)  
Barry  Pat  5-1-0  5' 11" (180 cm) 235 (107 kg)  
Buentello  Paul  25-10-0  6' 2" (188 cm) 235 (107 kg)  
Ciesnolevicz  Mike  18-4-1  6' 1" (185 cm) 230 (104 kg)  
Cro Cop  Mirko  25-7-2, 1 NC  6' 2" (188 cm) 220 (100 kg)  
Dos Santos  Junior  9-1-0  6' 4" (193 cm) 238 (108 kg)  
Duffee  Todd  6-0-0  6' 3" (191 cm) 260 (118 kg)  
Eilers  Justin  9-5-1  6' 1" (185 cm) 235 (107 kg)  
Frazier  Zane  0-2-0  6' 6" (198 cm) 230 (104 kg)  
Gonzaga  Gabriel  11-4-0  6' 1" (185 cm) 242 (110 kg)  
Gordeau  Gerard  2-1-0  6' 5" (196 cm) 215 (98 kg)  
Gormley  Chase  6-0-0  6' 3" (191 cm) 265 (120 kg)  
Gracie  Rolles  3-0-0  6' 4" (193 cm) 240 (109 kg)  
Hague  Tim  10-2-0  6' 4" (193 cm) 265 (120 kg)  
Hardonk  Antoni  8-6-0  6' 4" (193 cm) 245 (111 kg)  
Herring  Heath  28-14-0  6' 4" (193 cm) 250 (113 kg)  
Kongo  Cheick  24-5-1  6' 4" (193 cm) 240 (109 kg)  
Rothwell  Ben  30-7-0  6' 4" (193 cm) 265 (120 kg)  
Russow  Mike  12-1-0, 1 NC  6' 1" (185 cm) 255 (116 kg)  
Smith  Patrick  4-2-0  6' 2" (188 cm) 225 (102 kg)  
Struve  Stefan  22-3-0  6' 11" (211 cm) 238 (108 kg)  
Tuchscherer  Chris  17-2-0, 1 NC  6' 1" (185 cm) 260 (118 kg)  
  

Anyone can cut and paste.  You do realize that on this list, there are fighters who have died, fighters who have retired, and fighters who have not fought since the first UFC.  And on that second list is a list of light heavys.  A class that Kimbo has no chance of cutting to.  

On the heavyweight list, Berry, Dos Santos, Napao, Hardonk, Herring are all bad matchups for Kimbo.  Frazier, Gordeau, Pat Smith haven't fought in the UFC in decades, Smith is the only active fighter.  Rothwell would be good, but he would wear down Kimbo.  Buentello as well.  Kimbo is a great draw, but he isn't anywhere near top tier. 

[big L dawg]

 And on that second list is a list of light heavys.  A class that Kimbo has no chance of cutting to.  

he weighed in for Saturdays fight at 212lbs 7 lbs from light heavy....yea real impossible to cut down 7 more lbs in the next few months if a chance to fight at light heavy came...& yea I cut & pasted & didn't bother 2 go threw and take out the names of some old fighters on the list...big deal...the point I was making is there are plenty of other fighters outside of the same 4-5 everyone keeps naming over & over..

[polychronopolous]

you just named four of the top ten fighters in the heavyweight division...I know this is a bodybuilding forum but I sometimes wonder why I even bother posting about MMA on here as most people cant name any fighters besides the champs or the main title contenders....not saying you personaly per se but why would you bring up just the guys that are in contention for the title....1 fight in the UFC & he should go up against a top 5 or top 10 guy?

heres some heavyweights...yea some might kill him...but theres others that would be good matchups...

 
Smith  Patrick  4-2-0  6' 2" (188 cm) 225 (102 kg) 

 

Is there another heavyweight fighter named Patrick Smith because the guy I am thinking has gotta be around 45 years old by now...

[big L dawg]

Is there another heavyweight fighter named Patrick Smith because the guy I am thinking has gotta be around 45 years old by now...

thats why he's a perfect match up for Kimbo

[polychronopolous]

thats why he's a perfect match up for Kimbo

haha! Well he has already fought Tank Abbott and wanted to fight Ken Shamrock so maybe you are on to something there....Just match him up with all the fighters from the first few UFCs... 

[Kwon]

Kimbo VS Harold Howard or Keith Hackney.

[polychronopolous]

Kimbo VS Harold Howard or Keith Hackney.

LOL!!

Harold Howard was a badass!!

[Kwon]

LOL!!

Harold Howard was a badass!!

Loved his flip-kicks and mullett.

[polychronopolous]

Loved his flip-kicks and mullett.

I almost spit my drink out when I seen that!

WTF was that all about??

[Kwon]

I almost spit my drink out when I seen that!

WTF was that all about??

Haha yes, i almost choked on my coffee when i saw those flipkicks the first time. Didn't he manage to hit one person with them in the earlier stage of the tournament?

Also, check out Patrick Smith VS Scott Morris.

[polychronopolous]

Haha yes, i almost choked on my coffee when i saw those flipkicks the first time. Didn't he manage to hit one person with them in the earlier stage of the tournament?

Also, check out Patrick Smith VS Scott Morris.

LOL...I think that was the one UFC where the ref would look to the corner to see if they were throwing in the towl before stopping the match....

So you would basically you would have Patrick Smith throwing 10 or so elbows in a row to a knocked out guy on the mat...Fcuking brutal back then.....

[Spike]

 

[Kwon]

Well, that was random Spike.

Are you saying with your picture that YOU would fight Kimbles?

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

 Spike wants a dating.

[Spike]

Well, that was random Spike.

Are you saying with your picture that YOU would fight Kimbles?

thats to show I;m growin my beard and coverin my male pattern bladness up like it no big thing in preperation for my bout

I'm gonna go in heavy and over power him on the ground.....I got big hands too so I'm ready to go fistacuffs as well

like a rock on the end of a whip - BOO YAHH

and yes gracie I would like you to set the date we will fight but give me about 5-6weeks to grow more manness beard

[Kwon]

Are you fighting Gracie in the cage or in a back alley, Spike?

[Spike]

Are you fighting Gracie in the cage or in a back alley, Spike?

Gracie wants to fight?

honestly I fear him cause his avatars are so creative....the inspire alot of what happens in my life

so I will learn from him but I could not bring myself to fight the 'great one'

I was actually gonna ask him to be in my corner when I fight Slice

[Kwon]