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To train grip or not to train grip
« on: December 06, 2009, 01:14:30 PM »
I've become pretty obsessed with it the last couple of weeks. Bought my first decent gripper a week ago... a RB160. On my first attempt I was about 1½inch from closing it and now just a couple of millimeters. You see progress very quickly with grip training which is fun and rewarding. I'm also doing some pinch stuff with weights and plate curls. My long term goal is to close a CoC #2.5 within a year or so and I'll use RB grippers till I feel I'm close to my goal and then "invest" in a CoC.

Any of you beasts do any grip training? There's gotta be some #3 closers around here.
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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2009, 01:17:01 PM »
I've become pretty obsessed with it the last couple of weeks. Bought my first decent gripper a week ago... a RB160. On my first attempt I was about 1½inch from closing it and now just a couple of millimeters. You see progress very quickly with grip training which is fun and rewarding. I'm also doing some pinch stuff with weights and plate curls. My long term goal is to close a CoC #2.5 within and a year or so and I'll use RB grippers till I feel I'm close to my goal and then "invest" in a CoC.

Any of you beasts do any grip training? There's gotta be some #3 closers around here.

My friend who's into powerlifting is obsessed with those stupid CoC grips, I think he comes pretty close to closing the #3 , he benches around 500, but looks like a fat out of shape powerlifter  ;D

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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2009, 01:20:54 PM »
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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2009, 01:21:52 PM »
You don't need to buy a "gripper" for grip training. We use thick bars, thick ropes (21/2") farmers walks, etc, etc. Improvise and save your money.

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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2009, 01:23:46 PM »
best way to train grip

build a time machine and start playing baseball from the time you are 5 till your teens and never wear batting gloves

seriously, that will build super grip and some veiny ass forearms

that being said, i'm willing to bet that Andy Van Slyk has some sick ass forearms

btw, how many of you expected me to chime in with something about masturbation?

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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2009, 01:24:19 PM »
If i had that strong grip and 5inchs taller, I would have done MMA also.

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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2009, 01:26:10 PM »
You don't need to buy a "gripper" for grip training. We use thick bars, thick ropes (21/2") farmers walks, etc, etc. Improvise and save your money.

From what I've gathered grippers don't really improve the kind of hand strength that you use in your everyday life. So you've got a point, but it's a fun hobby and a nice ego stroke when you get better at it.

If I currently only have the basic gym setup available to me like barbells, dumbbells, plates etc what exercises would you suggest using that equipment?



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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2009, 01:26:13 PM »
In english please.

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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2009, 01:30:51 PM »
In english please.

Uhm never mind.
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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2009, 01:40:45 PM »
As an example, sometimes when we do one arm row, we will do something called "landmine" rows using the end of an olympic bar (I youtubed it) when you set up set one end of the bar in say a corner to secure it. When doing the actual movement, set up to the side of the on the opposite end, using the fat end of the olympic bar. By gripping the fat end of the bar, you can't help but to use your whole hand an thumb. The end of that is 2-3".

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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2009, 01:41:59 PM »
my grip is fucking pathetic lol.

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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2009, 01:45:43 PM »
As an example, sometimes when we do one arm row, we will do something called "landmine" rows using the end of an olympic bar (I youtubed it) when you set up set one end of the bar in say a corner to secure it. When doing the actual movement, set up to the side of the on the opposite end, using the fat end of the olympic bar. By gripping the fat end of the bar, you can't help but to use your whole hand an thumb. The end of that is 2-3".

Wow that is actually quite genius. I'll try that next time. How do you think the end of an olympic bar would compare to a Rolling Thunder grip? Never tried it myself so I don't have a clue.
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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2009, 01:59:09 PM »
MY GRIP IS SHITTY BUT NOT AS SHITTY AS MY HAMSTRINGS
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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2009, 03:27:51 PM »
best way to train grip

build a time machine and start playing baseball from the time you are 5 till your teens and never wear batting gloves

seriously, that will build super grip and some veiny ass forearms

that being said, i'm willing to bet that Andy Van Slyk has some sick ass forearms

btw, how many of you expected me to chime in with something about masturbation?

Aww man, and I thought your 'veiny' forearms were built from years of compulsive masturbation!?

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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2009, 03:40:31 PM »
I've become pretty obsessed with it the last couple of weeks. Bought my first decent gripper a week ago... a RB160. On my first attempt I was about 1½inch from closing it and now just a couple of millimeters. You see progress very quickly with grip training which is fun and rewarding. I'm also doing some pinch stuff with weights and plate curls. My long term goal is to close a CoC #2.5 within a year or so and I'll use RB grippers till I feel I'm close to my goal and then "invest" in a CoC.

Any of you beasts do any grip training? There's gotta be some #3 closers around here.

I trains forearms by themselves every week for a good hour or so and do a fair bit of gripwork, which makes a huge difference to your size and strength.

I don't use the gripper, but load about 3 - 3.5 plates on one side of an Olympic bar (with maybe a plate or so on the other side) sitting on the pins of a power rack at about 4" or so below where your hands would be, if you let them hang naturally when you're standing. Then grab the bar on the outside of the side with more plates with one hand and keep holding to failure, which will take around 30 secs or so. Alternate with the other hand.

You can work on improving both the time and the weight you can hold. Do this at the beginning of your forearm workout when your arms aren't fatigued, for 3 sets of 30 sec holds, before doing other exercises like reverse barbell curls, hammer curls and such. You should notice some changes over time. You can also try pinch gripping 2 plates together.

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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2009, 03:42:29 PM »
You can also try pinch gripping 2 plates together.
Your hands big enough to grip two 45lb plates together?
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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2009, 03:44:30 PM »
Wow that is actually quite genius. I'll try that next time. How do you think the end of an olympic bar would compare to a Rolling Thunder grip? Never tried it myself so I don't have a clue.

Rolling Thunder is good but you can have just as stronger if not a stronger grip by improvising. Here's one example of a landmine row and another example of how I use the think rope in our sled drags....(not plugging, just watch how we do the sled drags) Jay and Dave are pulling about 270lbs for 40 yards with a 2 1/2 thick rope.






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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2009, 03:45:14 PM »
I trains forearms by themselves every week for a good hour or so and do a fair bit of gripwork, which makes a huge difference to your size and strength.

I don't use the gripper, but load about 3 - 3.5 plates on one side of an Olympic bar (with maybe a plate or so on the other side) sitting on the pins of a power rack at about 4" or so below where your hands would be, if you let them hang naturally when you're standing. Then grab the bar on the outside of the side with more plates with one hand and keep holding to failure, which will take around 30 secs or so. Alternate with the other hand.

You can work on improving both the time and the weight you can hold. Do this at the beginning of your forearm workout when your arms aren't fatigued, for 3 sets of 30 sec holds, before doing other exercises like reverse barbell curls, hammer curls and such. You should notice some changes over time. You can also try pinch gripping 2 plates together.
Why so much forearm work dude is that to improve masturbation?

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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2009, 03:46:19 PM »
Your hands big enough to grip two 45lb plates together?

They are. I'm only 5'8" something, but I have the hands and feet of someone about 4 or 5" taller, lol - I get told that all the time.

Why so much forearm work dude is that to improve masturbation?

I've always wanted big arms and have had good forearms, esp. because my wrist (and other joints) are tiny. Nothing like a pair of big, thick arms.

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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2009, 03:47:59 PM »
Rolling Thunder is good but you can have just as stronger if not a stronger grip by improvising. Here's one example of a landmine row and another example of how I use the think rope in our sled drags....(not plugging, just watch how we do the sled drags) Jay and Dave are pulling about 270lbs for 40 yards with a 2 1/2 thick rope.






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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2009, 03:50:09 PM »
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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2009, 03:51:51 PM »
They are. I'm only 5'8" something, but I have the hands and feet of someone about 4 or 5" taller, lol - I get told that all the time.
;) This guy had the same issue. I heard through the grapevine = big hands and feet = big cock (no homo)

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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2009, 03:57:27 PM »
They are.
Damn, that would be an impressive pic of your little hands holding two 45lb plates together.

How long can you hold them?

Better yet, can you hold them together off the ground? :D
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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2009, 04:01:03 PM »
I've held two THICK 25lbers together in a pinch grip for about 30 sec...the last seconds are brutal. Can't imagine holding two 45's.
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Re: To train grip or not to train grip
« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2009, 04:02:44 PM »
I trains forearms by themselves every week for a good hour or so and do a fair bit of gripwork, which makes a huge difference to your size and strength.

I don't use the gripper, but load about 3 - 3.5 plates on one side of an Olympic bar (with maybe a plate or so on the other side) sitting on the pins of a power rack at about 4" or so below where your hands would be, if you let them hang naturally when you're standing. Then grab the bar on the outside of the side with more plates with one hand and keep holding to failure, which will take around 30 secs or so. Alternate with the other hand.

You can work on improving both the time and the weight you can hold. Do this at the beginning of your forearm workout when your arms aren't fatigued, for 3 sets of 30 sec holds, before doing other exercises like reverse barbell curls, hammer curls and such. You should notice some changes over time. You can also try pinch gripping 2 plates together.
Rolling Thunder is good but you can have just as stronger if not a stronger grip by improvising. Here's one example of a landmine row and another example of how I use the think rope in our sled drags....(not plugging, just watch how we do the sled drags) Jay and Dave are pulling about 270lbs for 40 yards with a 2 1/2 thick rope.

Some solid advices here, thanks guys.
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