Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson

[regmac]

215 and fat is diff than 215 and in shape.

Not if she has a nice hair do and cooks good.   Kidding

[Hulkster]

I don't think we should factor in 3 other shows in a span of 15 years),

ND would. he will grasp at anything to try and make his usual ridiculous argument seem valid..even though everyone can see that they aren't.

 

typical NuthuggerDeity.

[Hulkster]

The majority don't judge contests

lucky for you they didn't. your hero would have been barely a two time Mr. O, and would have been beaten by shawn more than once..

but the IFBB always looked the other way when it came to dorian showing up on stage..

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND would. he will grasp at anything to try and make his usual ridiculous argument seem valid..even though everyone can see that they aren't.

 

typical NuthuggerDeity.

Typical Hulkster gets owned and tries to save face with a personal attack FYI he competed professionally for only 13 years not 15 , he competed in smaller shows unlike you claimed and he got owned their too 

[NarcissisticDeity]

lucky for you they didn't. your hero would have been barely a two time Mr. O, and would have been beaten by shawn more than once..

but the IFBB always looked the other way when it came to dorian showing up on stage..

Yes we should let a bunch of ignorant idiots like you judge contests that's the ticket 

[Hulkster]

Typical Hulkster gets owned and tries to save face with a personal attack

no, I pointed out the stupidity of your argument, although someone already did..I simply agreed

[NarcissisticDeity]

no, I pointed out the stupidity of your argument, although someone already did..I simply agreed

No you attempted to point out a flaw which was refuted with facts , the fact is as far as careers are concerned Dexter kicks Shawns ass as well as Shawn competing in smaller shows and still not doing so well.

The person who you claimed pointed out the stupidity of my argument , didn't understand I wasn't saying his physique was better so you fail again so you agreed with someone who wrong 

Shawn's career sucked compared to Dexter that's a proven fact

[Hulkster]

no it isn't.

dex would not have made the top 10 at most Olympia shows that shawn was placing in the top 5 and deserved to win a few.

like everything else you can't simply look at the numbers.

you have to look at the meaning behind the numbers and how they were arrived at.

its like doing a scientific study using a sample pool with hardly any participants and no control group and basing everything on the results you found in a study with a small sample size that creates skewed results.

the point is that the only reason why dex had more winnings on paper (ie the Mr. O) was that he had poor competition after ronnie was retired/old and everyone from the shawn era was gone..

so no, dex did not have a better career. he simply waited until everyone good was gone. and won the O. as a result.

thats not having a better career. thats just luck.

[Danimal77]

no it isn't.

dex would not have made the top 10 at most Olympia shows that shawn was placing in the top 5 and deserved to win a few.

like everything else you can't simply look at the numbers.

you have to look at the meaning behind the numbers and how they were arrived at.

its like doing a scientific study using a sample pool with hardly any participants and no control group and basing everything on the results you found in a study with a small sample size that creates skewed results.

the point is that the only reason why dex had more winnings on paper (ie the Mr. O) was that he had poor competition after ronnie was retired/old and everyone from the shawn era was gone..

so no, dex did not have a better career. he simply waited until everyone good was gone. and won the O. as a result.

thats not having a better career. thats just luck.

I agree with you on this one Hulkster.

[JOHN MATRIX]

dex may have him beat on overall arms but everywhere else shawn ray ops the floor with dex including conditioning/seperation.

[Earl1972]

tough for me to decide, very close

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[Sherief Shalaby]

Who Nasser? they faced each other three times and Dexter beat him all three 

nasser beat him at mr. olympia 99 and 2000!!.. check before you say wrong info.

[Mr Nobody]

nasser beat him at mr. olympia 99 and 2000!!.. check before you say wrong info.

sheriff you got the results, top ten 99 and 2000?

[Sherief Shalaby]

nasser beat him at mr. olympia 99 and 2000!!.. check before you say wrong info.

also dex. placed 7th at AC 99 which nasser won!!.. at his best nasser was clearly better than dex.

[Sherief Shalaby]

sheriff you got the results, top ten 99 and 2000?

not only the results, i also have the whole videos of most of mr. olympia contests starting from early 80s!!..

[Mr Nobody]

not only the results, i also have the whole videos of most of mr. olympia contests starting from early 80s!!..

I think we need results posted here for ND and the gang or they wont believe you.

[big14]

If you believe Dexter is 230 you are fooling yourself

at the 2006 ASC Branch Warren was told by Dexter that he weighed 206lbs

It is not 2006 anymore.

I believe Dex is heavier and dryer.

Dex claimed 235 maybe he was closer to 225.

Shawn was even 190 lbs sometimes.

I do not believe they had the same weight.

Some of Dex bodyparts look 30% bigger than Shawns like

Delts and arms.

Shawn had small flat delts and Shawns head look bigger
than Dex head due to a smaller upper body.

[Sherief Shalaby]

I think we need results posted here for ND and the gang or they wont believe you.

ND knows the history of the sport very well but his mind sometimes forgets certain facts when they are against his desire

[Parker]

Shawn Ray Final Countdown...1998 Mr. O

Shawn Ray 1999 Mr O

Dex Battle for O 2000

[Hulkster]

I agree with you on this one Hulkster.

yup. ND's points are never valid if you use your brains and analyze things properly..

[Hulkster]

ND knows the history of the sport very well but

his mind sometimes forgets certain facts when they are against his desire

hahaha my ass he knows the sport very well. he has no clue and sees what he wants to see, not what actually happened and the reasons for it..

his mind sometimes forgets certain facts when they are against his desire

sometimes? lol

[Mr Nobody]

Just waiting for ND to arrive where is he? he usually shows up when Hulkster is here..

[Hulkster]

he is with dorian basking in the afterglow right about now...

[NarcissisticDeity]

no it isn't.

dex would not have made the top 10 at most Olympia shows that shawn was placing in the top 5 and deserved to win a few.

like everything else you can't simply look at the numbers.

you have to look at the meaning behind the numbers and how they were arrived at.

its like doing a scientific study using a sample pool with hardly any participants and no control group and basing everything on the results you found in a study with a small sample size that creates skewed results.

the point is that the only reason why dex had more winnings on paper (ie the Mr. O) was that he had poor competition after ronnie was retired/old and everyone from the shawn era was gone..

so no, dex did not have a better career. he simply waited until everyone good was gone. and won the O. as a result.

thats not having a better career. thats just luck.

It doesn't matter if he could or would one has nothing to do with the other , career wise there is NO contest , he can speak hypothetically all we want but in the end we can only go by what is .

and the same can be said about Ronnie as well so you're fucked either way.

[Mr Nobody]