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Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« on: December 11, 2009, 11:28:57 PM »
This man is preparing to unleash civil, biological, psychological and conventional war against america... sadly many are too dumb to see it coming.

Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?

by Chuck Baldwin
December 11, 2009



According to an obscure report in the European Union Times (EUTimes.net), "Russian Military Analysts are reporting to Prime Minister Putin that US President Barack Obama has issued an order to his Northern Command's (USNORTHCOM) top leader, US Air Force General Gene Renuart, to 'begin immediately' increasing his military forces to 1 million troops by January 30, 2010, in what these reports warn is an expected outbreak of civil war within the United States before the end of winter.

"According to these reports, Obama has had over these past weeks 'numerous' meetings with his war council abut how best to manage the expected implosion of his Nation's banking system while at the same time attempting to keep the United States military hegemony over the World in what Russian Military Analysts state is a 'last ditch gambit' whose success is 'far from certain.'"

The EU Times article continues by saying, "To the fears of Obama over the United States erupting into civil war once the full extent of the rape and pillaging of these peoples by their banks and government becomes known to them, grim evidence now shows the likelihood of this occurring much sooner than later."

The Times story goes on to say that there are "over 220 million American people armed to the teeth and ready to explode."

The Times article concludes by saying, "Though the coming civil war in the United States is being virtually ignored by their propaganda media, the same cannot be said of Russia, where leading Russian political analyst, Professor Igor Panarin has long warned that the economic turmoil in the United States has confirmed his long-held view that the US is heading for collapse."

Many of us would be inclined to pooh-pooh such a story, but then there is this column from Bloomberg.com entitled "Arming Goldman With Pistols Against Public," written by Alice Schroeder. According to Ms Schroeder:

"'I just wrote my first reference for a gun permit,' said a friend, who told me of swearing to the good character of a Goldman Sachs Group Inc. banker who applied to the local police for a permit to buy a pistol. The banker had told this friend of mine that senior Goldman people have loaded up on firearms and are now equipped to defend themselves if there is a populist uprising against the bank."

There is no doubt that the American people have good reason to despise these international banksters epitomized by Goldman Sachs. Even one of Goldman's poster-boys, Henry Paulson, US Treasury secretary and former Goldman CEO, admitted that the American people were fed up. Schroeder quotes Paulson as saying, during testimony to Congress last summer, "[People] were unhappy with the big discrepancies in wealth, but they at least believed in the system and in some form of market-driven capitalism. But if we had a complete meltdown, it could lead to people questioning the basis of the system."

Schroeder correctly opines, "There you have it. The bailout was meant to keep the curtain drawn on the way the rich make money, not from the free market, but from the lack of one. Goldman Sachs blew its cover when the firm's revenue from trading reached a record $27 billion in the first nine months of this year, and a public that was writhing in financial agony caught on that the profits earned on taxpayer capital were going to pay employee bonuses."

Schroeder concludes her column by saying, "And if the proles [proletariat: plebs, working class, peasants] really do appear brandishing pitchforks at the doors of Park Avenue and the gates of Round Hill Road, you can be sure that the Goldman guys and their families will be holed up in their safe rooms with their firearms."

So, do Wall Street and Russian analysts know something that we don't know? Is this why George W. Bush initiated USNORTHCOM to begin with? Is this why Barack Obama is beefing up USNORTHCOM? This would help explain the reports of all those potential detention camps that have been constructed (including the abandoned military installations that have refurbished security fences, guard towers, etc., around them). Has the American people's disgust with these crooks and thieves within the federal government and Wall Street reached a boiling point?

There is no question that people are angry, and for good reason.

The fraudulent financial policies of the Federal Reserve and its lackeys in the White House and Congress have literally bankrupted the country. Real unemployment is most likely over 20%. Taxes (along with costly fees, regulations, restrictions, penalties, mandates, etc.) at every level are going through the ceiling. America's jobs have been outsourced. Barack Obama continues G.W. Bush's irresponsibility, digging America deeper and deeper into foreign entanglements, at the cost of trillions of dollars and thousands of lives. The IRS continues to harass and harangue honest citizens, squeezing them like the proverbial turnip. And now, add the insanity of a global climate treaty being hammered out in Copenhagen, and a universal health care bill being rammed through Congress, and the outlook is even gloomier.

I feel very comfortable in saying that the usurpations of power, the encroachments upon liberty, and the arrogant tax-and-spend policies emanating from Washington, D.C., and Wall Street these days are far more egregious than what George Washington and the boys were enduring in 1775-76 at the hands of the British Crown. There is no doubt in my mind that if Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, and Sam Adams were alive today, they would have given cause for the Goldman Sachs banksters to retreat to their bunkers years ago!

The fact is, we do need a revolution! But not a revolution of anarchy and pitchforks. (The history of France should be ample evidence of the futility of this strategy.) We need a revolution of the individual states: to reclaim their sovereignty and fight for the liberties of their sovereigns (We the People). That is exactly what our forefathers did in '76.

America's founding document (the Declaration of Independence) declares that our states are "free and independent." And so they are. We are not "one nation" with one all-powerful central government. We are a confederation of nation-states, united in a voluntary union, with each State reserving to itself the power and authority of self-determination, and ceding to the federal government limited, specifically delineated duties and limitations--limitations that have been totally ignored to the point that, for all intents and purposes, our once-great constitutional republic has been thoroughly expunged. Therefore, it is NOW time for the states to stand up to this meddlesome, every-growing tyranny that is known as Washington, D.C., and defend the rights and liberties of their citizens!

What Dr. Ed Vieira (an attorney with 4 earned degrees from Harvard, who has successfully argued cases before the US Supreme Court) wrote a few weeks ago should serve as a template for every State governor and legislature that truly cares about liberty. See Ed's column at:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin201.htm

As Vieira says, the states should resurrect their militias. Many--if not all--states have the legal authority for such entities in their constitutions. In some states they are called the State Guard. Some plainly use the word "militia." Whatever they are called, they need to be activated. And all that is necessary for this to be accomplished is the order of the governor. It's that simple!

And as Vieira said, states need to adopt an alternative currency--including, and most especially, gold and silver. In other words, they need to develop their own private economies, complete with their own banks and exchange mediums. They also need to reject the multinational agribusiness and develop their own in-State agricultural and energy businesses.

I would dare say that the first State that determines to follow Vieira's sagacious counsel (and rumblings of this have already begun in states such as Alaska, Oklahoma, Texas, Montana, New Hampshire, Indiana, Tennessee, South Carolina, etc.) would have so many liberty-loving patriots flock there that its economy would explode with prosperity--resulting in a domino effect of many other states following suit--and the revolution that this country so desperately needs would indeed take place. Furthermore, such a revolution would be constitutional, lawful, moral, and, yes, in compliance with the laws of Nature and of Nature's God.

In the meantime, is Barack Obama really worried about civil war? He might be. It is my observation that Washington politicians and bureaucrats are the most paranoid people on the planet. The problem is--as with most power-hungry Machiavellians--their paranoia often translates into more oppression and less liberty for the citizenry. And if this is true, it simply means that the states need to hurry up and do what needs to be done!
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Re: Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2009, 07:51:00 AM »
Good post Samson. I am going to spread this to as many as I know. Everyone reading this should forward it to people they know.

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Re: Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2009, 07:56:40 AM »
Good post Samson. I am going to spread this to as many as I know. Everyone reading this should forward it to people they know.

This was a good article. 

These politicians, not just Obama, have no idea the earthquake coming their way. 

I told people qo months ago, better to be prepared and have everything you need, than to stick your head in the sand and act if if nothing is afoot. 

There are huge ice bergs coming our way on so many fronts. 

Its not a CT, its right in your face. 

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Re: Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2009, 08:06:45 AM »
There are huge ice bergs coming our way on so many fronts. 

333386 is predicting the ice age and not global warming :D :D :D

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Re: Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2009, 08:11:09 AM »
There are huge ice bergs coming our way on so many fronts. 

333386 is predicting the ice age and not global warming :D :D :D

So far this year every single friend of my mine has gone for his CCW.   Before that, I was the only one with a CCW. 

 

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Re: Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2009, 08:12:12 AM »
Haha.....Goldman people arming themselves in case the people rise up against the banks?  LMAO!  More proof they live in a fucking bubble.  They would starve in a matter of weeks without the support of middle America and the rest of the country.  These fucks have no clue.  They better stockpile some food not weapons.  Morons. 

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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2009, 08:14:28 AM »
Haha.....Goldman people arming themselves in case the people rise up against the banks?  LMAO!  More proof they live in a fucking bubble.  They would starve in a matter of weeks without the support of middle America and the rest of the country.  These fucks have no clue.  They better stockpile some food not weapons.  Morons. 

The money this admnistration has showered on the financial class is truly revolting. 

We are bankrupting ourselves to prop up these criminals and it is disgusting. 

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Re: Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2009, 08:16:58 AM »
The money this admnistration has showered on the financial class is truly revolting. 

We are bankrupting ourselves to prop up these criminals and it is disgusting. 

And not one riot in NYC?  The people are NYC are a bunch of pussies in my opinion.  All the fucking wealth paraded in front of their faces everyday.  LMAO!  All the middle class and blue collar people probably think one day they'll strike it big in the market it's just a matter of time........... ::)  Trump Towers should be burned to the fucking ground. 

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Re: Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2009, 08:37:47 AM »
And not one riot in NYC?  The people are NYC are a bunch of pussies in my opinion.  All the fucking wealth paraded in front of their faces everyday.  LMAO!  All the middle class and blue collar people probably think one day they'll strike it big in the market it's just a matter of time........... ::)  Trump Towers should be burned to the fucking ground. 

Do you live here?  No. 

The rich here are crowded in wall street and there are tons of cops down there. 

We also have a huge undeclass of people on welfare qwho are obvlious to anything so long as the welfare, Section 8, WIC, food staps etc keep rolling in. 

The rest of us, and those who have families are just trying to survive and keep our businesses going. 

If i go burn down GS HQ in midtown, is that going to help my business or family?  No.   

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Re: Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2009, 08:45:12 AM »
Well since we didn't cede our sovereignty as guaranteed earlier this week this is the newest prophecy of gloom from the resident basement boy.

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Re: Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2009, 09:11:10 AM »
Do you live here?  No. 

The rich here are crowded in wall street and there are tons of cops down there. 

We also have a huge undeclass of people on welfare qwho are obvlious to anything so long as the welfare, Section 8, WIC, food staps etc keep rolling in. 

The rest of us, and those who have families are just trying to survive and keep our businesses going. 

If i go burn down GS HQ in midtown, is that going to help my business or family?  No.   

The rich are crowded in on Wall Street? HAHAHA. You're turning into as big of a liar as Samson.

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Re: Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2009, 09:17:14 AM »
The rich are crowded in on Wall Street? HAHAHA. You're turning into as big of a liar as Samson.

I'm talking about the questioning why people are not rioting down there. 

I dont think we should be rioting and burning things down.  I just meant that if people wanted to they would get squashed. 

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Re: Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2009, 09:21:14 AM »
I'm talking about the questioning why people are not rioting down there. 

I dont think we should be rioting and burning things down.  I just meant that if people wanted to they would get squashed. 

The place isn't littered with cops like it's some sort of fortress.  ::)

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Re: Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2009, 09:22:33 AM »
The place isn't littered with cops like it's some sort of fortress.  ::)

Do you know how many undercovers there are?  There are tons. 

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Re: Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2009, 10:09:27 AM »
I'm talking about the questioning why people are not rioting down there. 

I dont think we should be rioting and burning things down.  I just meant that if people wanted to they would get squashed. 

Of course you don't, that's why you sit behind a computer and bitch and complain posting your articles and opinion on a bodybuilding website.  At least the French and the Iranian people have the balls to burn shit and throw rocks once in a while. 

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Re: Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2009, 10:14:04 AM »
Of course you don't, that's why you sit behind a computer and bitch and complain posting your articles and opinion on a bodybuilding website.  At least the French and the Iranian people have the balls to burn shit and throw rocks once in a while. 

Those people are jobless.  I have a business to run and am accountable to dozens of clients for getting a job done. 

Me throwing rocks at a concrete building is not going to do anything. 

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Re: Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2009, 10:25:14 AM »
Ur not serious right...first off NORTHCOM doesn't generate troops and would have zero capacity to do so...Obama should be preparing his own plane to get the hell out of dodge because we won't be defending his worthless ass.
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Re: Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2009, 10:27:44 AM »
Ur not serious right...first off NORTHCOM doesn't generate troops and would have zero capacity to do so...Obama should be preparing his own plane to get the hell out of dodge because we won't be defending his worthless ass.

Ha ha. 

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Re: Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2009, 10:37:37 AM »
Those people are jobless.  I have a business to run and am accountable to dozens of clients for getting a job done. 

Me throwing rocks at a concrete building is not going to do anything. 

A business?  What the do you even do?  You're into something like insurance, mortgage or finance or some fluff business if I remember correctly.  All you do is talk about your business???????? You don't even have any employees do you?  Probably some 18 year old college chick who mans your front desk who you pay $8/hr.  Gimme a break dude.  You are one of the more serious members on this board and contribute a lot of great viewpoints.  But come on.  You seem to be living in your own make believe world.

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Re: Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2009, 10:41:03 AM »
Says the supposed RN.
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Re: Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2009, 10:42:45 AM »
A business?  What the do you even do?  You're into something like insurance, mortgage or finance or some fluff business if I remember correctly.  All you do is talk about your business???????? You don't even have any employees do you?  Probably some 18 year old college chick who mans your front desk who you pay $8/hr.  Gimme a break dude.  You are one of the more serious members on this board and contribute a lot of great viewpoints.  But come on.  You seem to be living in your own make believe world.

I have two employees who make about $20.00 an hour each. 

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Re: Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2009, 11:11:07 AM »
Says the supposed RN.

Do you know what a fucking RN does?  Well let me fucking give you realistic glimpse into what I do as a nurse.  I work on a stroke unit.  You know what a fucking stroke is?  You know what it's like to be a 50-80 year old perfectly independent person living at home with your wife or husband and one night you wake up to go to the bathroom and half way there you collapse and can't move your entire right side nor can your wife/husband understand what you're saying because you are slurring your speech.  Ambulance comes, ER doctor and admitting doctor assess you, write orders and admit you into the hospital.  Meanwhile, your family is worried and have no clue what happened or what awaits you in the next few weeks to few months.  Doctor tells you that the MRI showed you had a middle cerebral artery stroke.  You still can't talk, you're in a diaper, and you even lost your swallowing ability.  

You know how many people have strokes? You know how destructive and life altering strokes can be?  You know who's at the bedside 24 hours a day answering call lights when a stroke patient is in pain, respiratory distress, shitting themselves, feeding them, putting in NG tubes, hooking up heparin drips, monitoring their vital signs, starting IVs, making sure they are clean and dry and don't develop bed sores and infections?  You think you know fuck all about what I do and you dont.  I guarantee your ignorant ass that you won't escape life without having some sort of chronic health problem and even I god hope you never have to suffer any sort of traumatic health problem like a stroke, brain injury, heart attack, cancer or what not.  I wouldn't wish that shit on my worst enemy.  You know what it's like seeing a grown man wallowing in his own shit waiting to die?  You know what it's like seeing a couple that's been married for 50 years walking into a room talking to their husband or wife and realizing that the person they love doesn't even recognize them anymore?  You have no clue what I see and what I deal with but more importantly you have NO CLUE WHAT THE FUCK AWAITS YOU IF YOU ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO MAKE IT INTO OLD AGE!  

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Re: Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2009, 06:55:42 PM »
If they want to avoid a civil war, it's easy.  Obama needs to go after all the people who caused this shit and stop acting like he's got his tounge up their asscheeks.  Take them all down, put them in Federal pound them in the ass prison :)

Sadly Obama does have his tongue up their asscheeks. He is beholden to GS and other financials who paid for him to be in office. He has no control over the CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT (that is the secret part of americas government that runs everything). Remember he is the marionette to Soros and Rockefeller so he will never challenge them and in general you know what happens to presidents who become too bold, seek to do what their "handlers" have NOT approved or try to go down the HONESTY trail...does Lincoln and Kennedy ring a bell.

I think all of the chaos coming to america is part of a plan to destabilize the nation, cause race, religious, and cultural wars which then allows more government regulations, laws etc. All with the agenda of ushering in MARTIAL LAW, internment camps an even death camps...
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Re: Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2009, 10:25:19 PM »
Is this like the bombing Saturn post? I mean the bombing that already happened?  ;D

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Re: Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2009, 10:28:02 PM »
Is this like the bombing Saturn post? I mean the bombing that already happened?  ;D
it did?  wiki says it's still orbiting Saturn?