Motivation for getbiggers - 1999 vs. 2009 (same pose)

[njflex]

GOOD JOB LEAFY...LEGS REALLY CAUGHT UP.

[njflex]

whatever methods used for steve to achieve his current size/condition,kudos for at least the genetic muscle shape that was given. so now as blown up in terms of mass he has gotton his build has a nice flow and shape to it ,that is one of the important factors in high level pro bbing.i think size wise he has reached his max,i don't see him wanting to compete say in the 220's or more .i think he looks great at this point for what he is doing..

[The_Leafy_Bug]

GOOD JOB LEAFY...LEGS REALLY CAUGHT UP.

Thank you my friend.

[Croatch]

This has got to be one of the funniest threads ever.
Motivation?

Sorry, I don't get motivated by guys who take drugs for years, to put on some muscle.
Who cares if it's drugs or not?  Evidently, a few people.

With drugs, we all know what is possible.  Where is the line drawn....gh/insulin/synthol/igf-1?  You're more of a science experiment, than a bber.
Talk to anyone outside the bb community, see what they think of your drug gains.  Most would laugh when you listed what you take to get where you are.

I know you put in your time training, so have many others.  The big difference, not everyone chooses to take a ton of anabolics and prefers a healthy lifestyle.
So, I apologize for not being motivated by your before (some drugs), after (many more drugs) pictures.

The thing is with guys like you, you actually believe you achieved something.  It's just drugs brother, just drugs.
Reality check by the Croatch.
BOOM!

[Croatch]

Lol! Another (and here a Z list competitor) that is delusional and believes that the hormones are only a small part of it. Quote: "This is not about steroids...let's do it no matter how...with or without steroids...nobody cares about it..."
Interesting that you would say that.

I've had guys on tell me the same thing at the gym, after letting them know I trumped their gains drug free...haha.  It's hard to listen to, but I guess most have to tell themselves something.
"It's not how you get there, but where you are."
Sure thing..haha
These are the same guys who when asked about training, they always fail to mention the 4 compounds they're taking, but do mention Vitamin C.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

This has got to be one of the funniest threads ever.
Motivation?

Sorry, I don't get motivated by guys who take drugs for years, to put on some muscle.
Who cares if it's drugs or not?  Evidently, a few people.

With drugs, we all know what is possible.  Where is the line drawn....gh/insulin/synthol/igf-1?  You're more of a science experiment, than a bber.
Talk to anyone outside the bb community, see what they think of your drug gains.  Most would laugh when you listed what you take to get where you are.

I know you put in your time training, so have many others.  The big difference, not everyone chooses to take a ton of anabolics and prefers a healthy lifestyle.
So, I apologize for not being motivated by your before (some drugs), after (many more drugs) pictures.

The thing is with guys like you, you actually believe you achieved something.  It's just drugs brother, just drugs.
Reality check by the Croatch.
BOOM!

You are balding nicely these days my friend.

[Deadpool]

wow Leafy what a transformation

[Steve Namat]

Wow you have a great physique.

It must be due 95% to hard work in the gym. 

I know steroids played a part but you would be nearly as huge and ripped if you were natural, maybe just a few lbs lighter. 

I could roid all day and all night for years and not even come close to you. 

You have terrific genetics, one in a million. 

You simply look amazing and are better than all of us, natural or not. 

    Is that what you wanted to hear? 

I didn't want to hear anything. I just wanted to give you guys some motivation. That's all.

[Steve Namat]

If you won the Hungarian Nationals at 19 drug-free (cough) and with only 3 years of natural training (cough cough), why on Earth would you feel the need to resort to steroids when it is so obvious (cough cough cough) that you were genetically superior in every way (chuckle) and could easily have turned pro drug-free (vomit)?

Did you feel you had reached your genetic potential at the ripe old age of 19 (fart) or were you one of those guys who had "never heard of steroids" (giggle) until you won your country's premiere title?

I don't expect you to tell the truth so please feel free to make up a story for all of the "hardgainers" here.

I won the Junior Nationals as a natural when I just turned 19. But I was 10th (from 13 guys) on the same night in the Overall (2002).

Next year I was 4th (2003).

One year after I won (2004)...

That's why I changed my preparation a little bit in 2003.

[3Dkiller]

Namaaatttttttttttttttttt tttttttttttttttttttttttt ttt  those 2008 pictures are Good ! just perfect symmetry

[EL Mariachi]

After 3 years of training when I won the Hungarian Junior Nationals (my first contest). I just turned 19 at that time.

he asked for a natural pic, no way you re natural here, you got this phisique with atleast 5 cycles, and thats nothing for that build, some people need to juice 6 years and still cant get such a body. you respond very good to training and juice, no question, you have great genetics.

[Steve Namat]

he asked for a natural pic, no way you re natural here, you got this phisique with atleast 5 cycles, and thats nothing for that build, some people need to juice 6 years and still cant get such a body. you respond very good to training and juice, no question, you have great genetics.

Thank you but which picture are you talking about...? I wasn't good in 2002...

[Steve Namat]

Namaaattttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt  those 2008 pictures are Good ! just perfect symmetry

Thank you!

[Steve Namat]

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[Luv2Hurt]

I can see your point, but I think you don't quite grasp ours.

Having genetics that respond to juice is not an achievement.  If you're seriously trying to fight to get kudos for that, forget it.  It isn't going to happen.  How many guys with big dicks get told "well done" by their contemporaries?    

Most people here, natural, juiced or whatever eat a lot, work out a lot and live a bodybuilding lifestyle.  None of us truly give two hoots about how committed you are to eating, sleeping or training.  We do the same thing.  Most of us don't get the results you get, either.  We still do it.  Nobody thinks steroids are magic juice, per se, but there probably aren't many here that wouldn't drastically improve by simply adding steroids to the mix.  

What really amuses me about superjuicers is how they think they work far harder to get their muscles, far above the naturals.  You're kidding yourselves.  The singlemost determining factor in the difference (besides genetics) is steroids.  All of us train.  Do you really think you're going to get massive kudos for transformations photos that would have occurred (obviously genetics willing) for ANY of us, had we the genetics.

I don't want to trivialise what Steve has done, because it is good and dieting for comps is definitely a great achievement, above what your regular gymrat experience.  But you're mostly talking to a lot of people who pretty much do the same thing, daily and get on with it.

No I see the point you are trying to make but still think it is unfair to say.  Sure lots of people train daily and plug away in the gym and at the table. but I bet they are not as consistant over a long period like Steve has been.  Plus he had the desire to learn to train properly and eat properly to attain these goals.  I hear lots of people usually skinny people say "I eat food ALL day long and still cant gain any weight"  LOL thing is they don't eat much at all and what it is, is not correct for max growth.  Same with training "I bench 500 lbs but still have a small chest" LOL yeah they use 1/4 ROM in their work outs so they can look strong.

SN has taken it to the next level and has made plenty of sacrifices with his time and energy to build the body he has.  He has applied it better and longer than your average trainer and that is how he did it.  Not steroids, they just augmented things.

[Steve Namat]

No I see the point you are trying to make but still think it is unfair to say.  Sure lots of people train daily and plug away in the gym and at the table. but I bet they are not as consistant over a long period like Steve has been.  Plus he had the desire to learn to train properly and eat properly to attain these goals.  I hear lots of people usually skinny people say "I eat food ALL day long and still cant gain any weight"  LOL thing is they don't eat much at all and what it is, is not correct for max growth.  Same with training "I bench 500 lbs but still have a small chest" LOL yeah they use 1/4 ROM in their work outs so they can look strong.

SN has taken it to the next level and has made plenty of sacrifices with his time and energy to build the body he has.  He has applied it better and longer than your average trainer and that is how he did it.  Not steroids, they just augmented things.

QFT

Anyway as I said it before bodybuilding is the most complex sport on the world. Not everybody can do it on pro level.

I just came home from the Powerhouse Gym (Downtown Tampa), I saw 3-4 guys doing chest, between 21-25 age. They were big, tall (like NFL players) but looked like shit with a pro bodybuilder's eye. But they used 140-150s dumbbells for flat benches.

They were full of drugs...no muscle mass which worth mentioning...btw they were strong.

So they doing the training, using the drugs, getting stronger and...looking like shit...

Now somebody will maybe write here that they doesn't even want to look better...they just wanna be stronger... Well if that's the case then why they were constantly posing in the mirror...? 

 

[Croatch]

You are balding nicely these days my friend.

haha.  Only a fag would be looking at my hair in that avatar.
Plus, that was 2004, I'm much more balding now.

So, when it says "competitor" by your name, that signifies you as a drug user...correct?
Nice job.

[io856]

I've had guys on tell me the same thing at the gym, after letting them know I trumped their gains drug free...haha.  It's hard to listen to, but I guess most have to tell themselves something.
"It's not how you get there, but where you are."
Sure thing..haha
These are the same guys who when asked about training, they always fail to mention the 4 compounds they're taking, but do mention Vitamin C.

[Croatch]

I didn't want to hear anything. I just wanted to give you guys some motivation. That's all.

No, you don't motivate me at all.
The people who motivate me have some kind of skill or talent.  I was never moved by genetics or genetic response to drugs.  Or someone who uses boatloads of drugs for years and years.
I'd be more impressed with my own gains, to be honest.  40lbs lean mass, no drugs needed.

It's great you lift weights and eat plenty of egg whites, but let's face it, you're a heavy drug abuser.  Nobody outside the drug infested bbing world is going to view you as a role model.  Be honest with people when they ask you about "fitness", see their reaction.  On a message board, being open about drug use is about as open as you guys get.

[Croatch]

On getbig, typing=
 

[Steve Namat]

No, you don't motivate me at all.

Well, fortunately we have many other people on this board...

 

[jaejonna]

Thank you guys!

Good to see that there are a few people on this board who are actually love this sport and know what is bodybuilding all about.

Stay here steve.(no homo).....those other boards are the minor leagues hahahah this is where the strong survive !!!!!!!

[jaejonna]

Leafy filling out nicely bro

[io856]

I actually like reading croatch posts now its like a comedian laugh at the idiocracies of life but don't take it too seriously
  and its not like the comedian will change your life... just laugh at what they point out...

haha, Close.
You couldn't pay me to go to a dance club.  If you don't dance, drink, or do drugs...there really is no point.
I'm sure I'd be disgusted there too at the number of attention whores parading around for drunk guys, who give them the impression they're more attractive then they are.  Much like the scene from "Swingers".
I'd rather do some blow and look at internet porn.  Same result.  Bust a nut and feel like garbage the next day.

at the end of the day the chemically enhanced fellow gets to walk down the street and attract a shit ton of attention granted he or she is above 5'7" otherwise its just a joke

[che]

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I'd be more impressed with my own gains, to be honest.  40lbs lean mass, no drugs needed.

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Used to be 50 lbs ,now is 40 lbs