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Bob Chick we need your advices
« on: December 18, 2009, 01:18:58 AM »
I have seen you talk about how bodybuilding is a world of "opposites."  Such as to work the inner bicep you need to use a wide grip on the barbell etc...  Can you elaborate more on this for the getbiggers who may not be familiar with this? 

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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2009, 01:20:50 AM »
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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2009, 05:17:12 AM »
Quote from: calfzilla on December 18, 2009, 01:18:58 AM
I have seen you talk about how bodybuilding is a world of "opposites."  Such as to work the inner bicep you need to use a wide grip on the barbell etc...  Can you elaborate more on this for the getbiggers who may not be familiar with this? 



Well, you pretty much summed it up.....all muscles work in opposites. This especially holds true for working BACK, which for some reason, people still think working wide will promote width...CLOSE grip movements will do more for width, wide grip movements will help with thickness...
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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2009, 05:24:45 AM »
Quote from: Chick on December 18, 2009, 05:17:12 AM
Well, you pretty much summed it up.....all muscles work in opposites. This especially holds true for working BACK, which for some reason, people still think working wide will promote width...CLOSE grip movements will do more for width, wide grip movements will help with thickness...

DORIAN YATES in some of his seminars said that if your grip is too wide for pulldowns you can`t use as much weight as using a normal grip and that`s equal more weight in pull downs more mass in lats...If I find a clip of that seminar I `ll post it here...
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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2009, 05:30:32 AM »
Quote from: TheGift... on December 18, 2009, 05:24:45 AM
DORIAN YATES in some of his seminars said that if your grip is too wide for pulldowns you can`t use as much weight as using a normal grip and that`s equal more weight in pull downs more mass in lats...If I find a clip of that seminar I `ll post it here...

Basically saying not to go too heavy, as youll ultimately be using/ involving more muscles than the lats you're trying to use...
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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2009, 05:47:59 AM »
hey chick,

what kind of routine do you follow now you are retired and getting a little older? any fav exercises?
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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2009, 05:56:11 AM »
Quote from: jwb on December 18, 2009, 05:47:59 AM
hey chick,

what kind of routine do you follow now you are retired and getting a little older? any fav exercises?

LOL...ANY exercises are good ones these days!

It's the schedule and business that seems to get in the way, priorities change, my daughter demands more and more time, and travel is brutal...other than that...I try to get 3-4 days per week..still use a 50/50 split of machines and free weights...prefer single BP/ day...more often due to travel, find myself having to combine...

Cardio needs to increase...need to get lean and mean for the upcoming year, and TV stuff...270 looks like 300 on camera! LOL...I'm thinking 240-45 would be a good weight
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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2009, 06:07:48 AM »
Quote from: Chick on December 18, 2009, 05:56:11 AM
LOL...ANY exercises are good ones these days!

It's the schedule and business that seems to get in the way, priorities change, my daughter demands more and more time, and travel is brutal...other than that...I try to get 3-4 days per week..still use a 50/50 split of machines and free weights...prefer single BP/ day...more often due to travel, find myself having to combine...

Cardio needs to increase...need to get lean and mean for the upcoming year, and TV stuff...270 looks like 300 on camera! LOL...I'm thinking 240-45 would be a good weight
could you see yourself concentrating on mainly X frame type movements (upper/outer pec, side delt, outer quad etc) rather than trying to maintain overall size?
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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2009, 06:15:24 AM »
Quote from: jwb on December 18, 2009, 06:07:48 AM
could you see yourself concentrating on mainly X frame type movements (upper/outer pec, side delt, outer quad etc) rather than trying to maintain overall size?

Size? who's looking at size these days?  I'm looking to cut it down....my "size " days are over...especially legs...much easier to fit into pants now
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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2009, 07:00:04 AM »
Bob, how do you recommend I target the inner pecs?
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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2009, 10:28:04 AM »
Quote from: Chick on December 18, 2009, 05:17:12 AM
Well, you pretty much summed it up.....all muscles work in opposites. This especially holds true for working BACK, which for some reason, people still think working wide will promote width...CLOSE grip movements will do more for width, wide grip movements will help with thickness...

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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2009, 12:18:12 PM »
Quote from: db2431 on December 18, 2009, 07:00:04 AM
Bob, how do you recommend I target the inner pecs?
IMO,Flat dumbell press, pec deck/dumbell flys. I have the same problem with my chest. I still have that "Gap" between my pecs. Same wit my lower inner pecs.
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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2009, 12:34:49 PM »
Bob, in your honest opinion. How long do you believe someone should train for and build a foundation before hitting the sauce??
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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2009, 12:49:32 PM »
Quote from: IrishMuscle84 on December 18, 2009, 12:34:49 PM
Bob, in your honest opinion. How long do you believe someone should train for and build a foundation before hitting the sauce??

Never as a teenager, in your early twenties if competition/ going pro is a REAL probability...and mid to late 20s if not...after that, maintinence dosages/ HRT for preservation
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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2009, 01:58:16 PM »
Quote from: Chick on December 18, 2009, 05:17:12 AM
Well, you pretty much summed it up.....all muscles work in opposites. This especially holds true for working BACK, which for some reason, people still think working wide will promote width...CLOSE grip movements will do more for width, wide grip movements will help with thickness...
True.  I believe I get the best width results from close reverse grip pull downs. 
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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2009, 02:03:48 PM »
Quote from: calfzilla on December 18, 2009, 01:18:58 AM
I have seen you talk about how bodybuilding is a world of "opposites." 

The better u look, the shittier u feel. That's what Jay Cutler once said. And when u feel like your minutes before death, lean and dehydrated on contest day, that's when u look the best.
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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2009, 06:56:39 PM »
Quote from: db2431 on December 18, 2009, 07:00:04 AM
Bob, how do you recommend I target the inner pecs?
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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2009, 07:01:22 PM »
Quote from: Chick on December 18, 2009, 05:17:12 AM
Well, you pretty much summed it up.....all muscles work in opposites. This especially holds true for working BACK, which for some reason, people still think working wide will promote width...CLOSE grip movements will do more for width, wide grip movements will help with thickness...
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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2009, 07:02:39 PM »
Quote from: Chick on December 18, 2009, 07:01:22 PM


Bob, this doesnt answer my question, I would like some specific advice.
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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2009, 07:03:29 PM »
People still believe you can target "inner pecs"?  ??? :D

Targeting upper and lower pecs is hard enough, but inner and outer? Please.  :D
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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2009, 07:05:12 PM »
Quote from: Van_Bilderass on December 18, 2009, 07:03:29 PM
People still believe you can target "inner pecs"?  ??? :D

You can, I usually focus on inner pecs 4 weeks before the contest, when drugs are just the finishing touch.
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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2009, 07:06:13 PM »
Quote from: db2431 on December 18, 2009, 07:05:12 PM
You can, I usually focus on inner pecs 4 weeks before the contest, when drugs are just the finishing touch.

Inner pec injections? Might work.
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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2009, 07:15:13 PM »
Quote from: db2431 on December 18, 2009, 07:02:39 PM
Bob, this doesnt answer my question, I would like some specific advice.
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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2009, 08:18:08 PM »
Do you still work out Bob?
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Re: Bob Chick we need your advices
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2009, 09:33:46 PM »
Quote from: db2431 on December 18, 2009, 07:02:39 PM
Bob, this doesnt answer my question, I would like some specific advice.

Do you need a diagram? Why does he have to spell it out for you? He's quoted the priniciple of opposites several times, use your head. Want to build up inner chest? Work with a wide grip. This is simple.
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