Time to face terrorist facts

[Sharma]

Again, the same quotes from the ill-understanding and thoese ignorant of Islam. You can take isolated text from the bible and too make it look as if death is the only option.

What is true is that Jews, Muslims and Christians lived side by side in the Middle East for many century until the British, French and American began to meddle and interfere in the affairs of those countries. They could be called "terrorists" by their assassinations and arming of those parties that suit their interest.

If the West did not meddle where it does not have any legal or moral right to, then there would be peace.

Wake up and break from the shackled of ignorance. It is not hard to find the real truth if you actually bother to search for it instead of be spoon-fed lies by those who bomb schools and hospitals in your name and send your sons to die whilst theirs are safely in Ivy League, laughing.

[Sherief Shalaby]

There are bad things in America's past, to be sure. I would not say that the Korean war was unjust.

If you are to look to North Korea, and the hell those people live under, I think that you can agree that America's role there was worthwile.

As for Viet Nam, it was a mistake to alienate them after WWII and then fight them later. But history is hard to know, in the total outcome, how things would have gone if this or that hadn't happened. Communism under Mao, ongoing in China at the same time, starved some 70-100 million people to death. So who's to say that it wasn't right to fight back against that?

As for Iraq, absolutely should not have invaded.

But let us be clear on things. The US, and aligned Western powers, are not looking to kill everyone who is not of the same mind-set. This is, however, a vein which runs through all of Islam. We see it from the Philipines to China. It is inherent in your belief system, the Koran.

Here are some quotes -

Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98

On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161

Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191

But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89

O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54

Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. - 9:2-3

O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. - 9:73

Our guiding principles and founding documents speak nothing of death and murder, but yours are filled with it.

Let me ask you this, since I am an atheist, is it okay for you to murder me?

sure not and i have atheist friends whom i like too.. as long as you are good and respectful with me i dont give a shit if you are muslim, jew or atheist..

as for these Quran quotes they are all about the war time and not in general!!.. also muslims in the days of MOHAMED were not killing their enemies women or childern.. also MOHAMED was good with all ppl and there are 100s of stories about how he was dealing with christians and jews in his time!!..

[BIG AL MCKECHNIE]

sorry i didnt guess you were older after your, sorry to say STUPID suggestion

before saying any shit try to understand the "other" and the real reasons behind terrorism!..

muslims who you are atacking now gave the world including your ancestors the civilization we all enjoy now!!..

Sherief I suspect you are an American kid trying to make mischief. This thread is not about the definition of terrorism or who is right or wrong.
This thread is about the fact that all risks to flights in this world at this time are caused by Muslem extremists. Whether they are right or wrong to attempt to blow up flights is dependant on your point of view. We should profile passengers much more stringently and give Muslems much more thourough checking than Catholics for example.  This matter came up on the BBC news this morning and it seems Muslems will be getting selected for special treatment so hopefully my thread has been picked up by the powers that be.

[garebear]

sure not and i have atheist friends whom i like too.. as long as you are good and respectful with me i dont give a shit if you are muslim, jew or atheist..

as for these Quran quotes they are all about the war time and not in general!!.. also muslims in the days of MOHAMED were not killing their enemies women or childern.. also MOHAMED was good with all ppl and there are 100s of stories about how he was dealing with christians and jews in his time!!..

Oh, Ok. Wanna go have a beer?

[Sherief Shalaby]

Sherief I suspect you are an American kid trying to make mischief. This thread is not about the definition of terrorism or who is right or wrong.
This thread is about the fact that all risks to flights in this world at this time are caused by Muslem extremists. Whether they are right or wrong to attempt to blow up flights is dependant on your point of view. We should profile passengers much more stringently and give Muslems much more thourough checking than Catholics for example.  This matter came up on the BBC news this morning and it seems Muslems will be getting selected for special treatment so hopefully my thread has been picked up by the powers that be.

do you mean they may include my name in a certain list or something

[Sherief Shalaby]

Oh, Ok. Wanna go have a beer?

no thx i dont drink

[ToxicAvenger]

Why don't we just ban Muslems from air travel?  Simply ask them if they are muslem first and then don't let them fly if thay say yes as I'm sure no true terrorist muslem would even deny their faith. Problem solved.

umm if terrorists dont have a problem killing indiscriminately...they WONT have a problem lying about being non muslim  


just racially profile...simple...

[Meso_z]

Muslims hijacking the thread as always like they do with airplanes. ironic...

[garebear]

Muslims hijacking the thread as always like they do with airplanes. ironic...

haha

[drkaje]

x1000,  we know exactly who the terrorists are and it isn't the white people

Just not true.

Besides... 'terrorist' is a political definition.

[garebear]

Again, the same quotes from the ill-understanding and thoese ignorant of Islam. You can take isolated text from the bible and too make it look as if death is the only option.

What is true is that Jews, Muslims and Christians lived side by side in the Middle East for many century until the British, French and American began to meddle and interfere in the affairs of those countries. They could be called "terrorists" by their assassinations and arming of those parties that suit their interest.

If the West did not meddle where it does not have any legal or moral right to, then there would be peace.

Wake up and break from the shackled of ignorance. It is not hard to find the real truth if you actually bother to search for it instead of be spoon-fed lies by those who bomb schools and hospitals in your name and send your sons to die whilst theirs are safely in Ivy League, laughing.

Islam is something I tried to study. 


But I got my hands bloody.

[Fury]

What is true is that Jews, Muslims and Christians lived side by side in the Middle East for many century until the British, French and American began to meddle and interfere in the affairs of those countries. They could be called "terrorists" by their assassinations and arming of those parties that suit their interest.

Yeah, they lived side by side....as long as the Christians and Jews paid the jizya and knew that they were second class citizens/slaves. Or are all those passages in the Koran/Hadith that call for the deaths of Christians and Jews false?

[calfzilla]

I have something to say on that regard,

It really amazes me when USA a big country send their army to Iraq a poor country and start killing their people including men, kids, women & old people.  Then when a kid whose dad and mom got killed by the USA big country force and tries to revenge by exploding himself near a big number of them and try to get back of his family killers they will call him TERRORIST.

I don’t think it needs special skill to understand who the actual TERRORISTS are, but I don’t expect everybody to be smart enough to even understand so.

Nevertheless, god bless us and guide us to the right path. 

As an American of middle eastern ancestry, I couldn't disagree more.  I'm sure grandpa Mohammad would think you are as dumb as I do, if he were alive today.  

[Sherief Shalaby]

As an American of middle eastern ancestry, I couldn't disagree more.  I'm sure grandpa Mohammad would think you are as dumb as I do, if he were was alive today.  

is english your first language

[calfzilla]

is english your first language

Owned   

[haider]

is english your first language

I don't think thats gramatically incorrect.

[calfzilla]

I don't think thats gramatically incorrect.

LoL me neither, I just read my original post and I am pretty sure that is gramatically correct.  The way Sherief Salami quoted me it looked like I included the words were and was.  Silly terrorist, English is for Americans. 

[drkaje]

There really aren't many (if any) facts to face. Things will change but we still generally feel US & European Middle East policies happen in a vacuum and should never affect our lives here.

[Sherief Shalaby]

LoL me neither, I just read my original post and I am pretty sure that is gramatically correct.  The way Sherief Salami quoted me it looked like I included the words were and was.  Silly terrorist, English is for Americans. 

no seriously how to say "he were"

[garebear]

Haha, lights out.  Threatens America and is killed soon thereafter.

"O soldiers, you should learn that we do not want to fight you, nor do we have an issue with you. We only have an issue with America and its agents, and beware of standing in the ranks of America," he says. "You should not defend these regimes. The soldiers and even Obama cannot put out the light of Islam."

The video was posted on extremist Web sites affiliated with al-Qaida. The Web sites identified the speaker as Mohammed al-Kalwi, an al-Qaida activist reportedly killed in another airstrike on Thursday.

[BIG AL MCKECHNIE]

OK Sherif Shalabi and Sharma,
If that dude flying into Detroit had succeded in exploding his bomb and killed 300 men, women and children (some of whom could be Muslem) would you have felt good about it?
Please answer honestly.
Back when the carpet bombing of Iraq started I felt terrible for the innocents who were being blown to pieces that night. And I'm an ex British forces officer.

[ToxicAvenger]

Back when the carpet bombing of Iraq started I felt terrible for the innocents who were being blown to pieces that night. And I'm an ex British forces officer.

BEAR GRILLS!


awesome!

[Bix]

Maybe if we got the fuck out of their countries and stopped meddling in their affairs there'd be no more Muslim terrorists?

[ManBearPig...]

PC will be the death of us.


Why can't these people just go back to cutting each other's heads off?

you're one of those mac homos huh?

[The Showstoppa]

Maybe if we got the fuck out of their countries and stopped meddling in their affairs there'd be no more Muslim terrorists?