This will be my last thread on the issue.

[wavelength]

you, mein oesterreichischer freund (no homo), got it down to a science !

Hahahaha, danke mein Schweizer Bruder am Eisen!

[nolotil]

You make too much sense, get off this board!

 

dieting is not complicated at all. but people always look for secrets..they dont wanna hear that its all about consistency and hard work.

same goes for training and many other things in life

[ChristopherA]

certainly loosing fat isnt a complicated process but alot of people dont have the mental power to do it

i also laugh all the gurus secrets.there are no secrets..all you need to know is a few basic fundamental rules (99%), rest is details (1%) that dont matter unless you are in very specific situations.

Spot on. Getting ripped is all about willpower. Its not about fatburners, supplements, or juice. Obviouslly T3, clen, even ephedrine will help but for anyone whos realies on those heavily I dought you will reach your goal or manage to maintain your fatloss. I just got in shape for the first time without any fatburners and it was a huge mental hurdle but I did it. I def dont have a fast metabolism. But when the end of the day and night rolls around and my stomach feels like it is eating itself from the inside out, I just tell myself all the guys in the gym who look the same every day would go eat right now. Then I go to bed hungry and wake up the next morning in better shape. Anyone can get in shape in 3-4 months depending on how out of shape you are. You can lose 40-50lbs in that time.

[wavelength]

dieting is not complicated at all. but people always look for secrets..they dont wanna hear that its all about consistency and hard work.

same goes for training and many other things in life

Are you with me that this thread should be a stickie?

[nolotil]

Are you with me that this thread should be a stickie?

yes but people wont believe you..it sounds too easy (or atleast too uncomplicated)   

[Mr Nobody]

yes but people wont believe you..it sounds too easy (or atleast too uncomplicated)   

Reason being is money, there is always someone trying to make money off anything in this world. I have seen pics of Wave in ripped condition its not hard just discipline. Its simple take in less than you need you lose fat.

[nolotil]

Reason being is money, there is always someone trying to make money off anything in this world. I have seen pics of Wave in ripped condition its not hard just discipline. Its simple take in less than you need you lose fat.

ohh i know that money is one reason (laziness is another reason) that the fundamental rules are being hidden among vodoo rules. just look at many of the gurus, they have their clients doing alot of unecessary stuff that really dont matter or is just a way to trick them to eat less calories (which can be a good thing too)

[wavelength]

yes but people wont believe you..it sounds too easy (or atleast too uncomplicated)   

I bet we could get Ronaldo ripped if he would just sticky this thread.
He could eat all the orange chicken he wanted and still get ripped!

[Samourai Pizzacat]

I'd say add aerobic training(cardio) as well, for health benefits and for more variety.

[nolotil]

I bet we could get Ronaldo ripped if he would just sticky this thread.
He could eat all the orange chicken he wanted and still get ripped!

yes, i also get annoyed at people who think they have to diet only on chicken and tuna. my answer is always make sure you eat food you enjoy eating and you dont have to limit yourself to dry chicken + categorizing clean vs dirty food is kinda stupid as it should never be an either or case.

when i diet down for shows i for example eat ice cream (and other 'dirty' food) now and then..no problem..as long as i keep track of my calories overall and meet my macro goals. its all about balance

[Mr Nobody]

I'd say add aerobic training(cardio) as well, for health benefits and for more variety.

Pizza yes definately but all you are doing is burning more calories = take in less or burn more = fat loss.

[nolotil]

I'd say add aerobic training(cardio) as well, for health benefits and for more variety.

yes can be added to achieve a caloric deficit (less food is most important factor tho) and for overall health. but is not a must for fatloss..and if done .it shouldnt be overdone....

[wavelength]

yes, i also get annoyed at people who think they have to diet only on chicken and tuna. my answer is always make sure you eat food you enjoy eating and you dont have to limit yourself to dry chicken + categorizing clean vs dirty food is kinda stupid as it should never be an either or case.

when i diet down for shows i for example eat ice cream (and other 'dirty' food) now and then..no problem..as long as i keep track of my calories overall and meet my macro goals. its all about balance

You're a competitive bodybuilder?

[figgs]

Does anybody else have an intuitive connection with their metabolism? I don't mean to use metaphysical jargon, but I have noticed that after years and years of strict dieting and bodybuilding, I find that I can just go from meal to meal and eat however much I feel that I need for whatever is my specific goal. I hardly even have to think about it and it is a very natural and effortless process for me now. No notes, or tracking, simply meal to meal dieting.

Great advice, wavelength. I also always believe that dieting has been overcomplicated because most people feel that it should be complicated although it's nothing more than cutting calories (zero soda and unhealthy snacks), eating clean, balanced meals consistently, water, exercise, etc.

[nolotil]

You're a competitive bodybuilder?

yes i am and i have helped many people diet for shows and with training etc so my advice is not just based on theory i read but also tried and true time after time.  

recently i helped a fitness girl diet for her show. first thing i did was stop her eating 6 tiny meals, because when you have a 56kg girl..6 meals will be the size of bird meals (she was complaining about constantly having to eat and feeling hungry). i put her on 3 larger meals so she can feel full after each meal and i suggested her a much more varied diet..and to exclude protein shakes as they arent as filling as regular food (such as red meat). also i told her to scale back on her training and cardio..as she was doing too much of everything. training 6 days per week and 2x1 hour cardie sessions per day. i scaled her back to 4 workouts (with weights) per week..and also scaled back alot on her cardio.

[nolotil]

Does anybody else have an intuitive connection with their metabolism? I don't mean to use metaphysical jargon, but I have noticed that after years and years of strict dieting and bodybuilding, I find that I can just go from meal to meal and eat however much I feel that I need for whatever is my specific goal. I hardly even have to think about it and it is a very natural and effortless process for me now. No notes, or tracking, simply meal to meal dieting.

Great advice, wavelength. I also always believe that dieting has been overcomplicated because most people feel that it should be complicated although it's nothing more than cutting calories (zero soda and unhealthy snacks), eating clean, balanced meals consistently, water, exercise, etc.

you dont have an intuitive connection with your metabolism..instead you have a good grasp of how much calories you need to keep your weight stable. 

its the same thing with me..after dieting so many times and counting calories i can pretty much guestimate how much im eating. BUT alot of people cant and will understimate or overstimate how much they are eating..so the basic recommendation should be if you diet: count your calories.

[wavelength]

Does anybody else have an intuitive connection with their metabolism? I don't mean to use metaphysical jargon, but I have noticed that after years and years of strict dieting and bodybuilding, I find that I can just go from meal to meal and eat however much I feel that I need for whatever is my specific goal. I hardly even have to think about it and it is a very natural and effortless process for me now. No notes, or tracking, simply meal to meal dieting.

Great advice, wavelength. I also always believe that dieting has been overcomplicated because most people feel that it should be complicated although it's nothing more than cutting calories (zero soda and unhealthy snacks), eating clean, balanced meals consistently, water, exercise, etc.

Thanks man although I don't believe in "clean" food.

[wavelength]

yes i am and i have helped many people diet for shows and with training etc so my advice is not just based on theory i read but also tried and true time after time. 

recently i helped a fitness girl diet for her show. first thing i did was stop her eating 6 tiny meals, because when you have a 56kg girl..6 meals will be the size of bird meals (she was complaining about constantly having to eat and feeling hungry). i put her on 3 larger meals so she can feel full after each meal and i suggested her a much more varied diet..and to exclude protein shakes as they arent as filling as regular food (such as red meat). also i told her to scale back on her training and cardio..as she was doing too much of everything. training 6 days per week and 2x1 hour cardie sessions per day. i scaled her back to 4 workouts per day..and also scaled back alot on her cardio.

Got any competition pics, of yourself or your clients?

[nolotil]

Got any competition pics, of yourself or your clients?

yes maybe will post some in the future. 

[che]

For anyone who wants to get ripped and never has achieved it since:

You only need to follow 3 simple rules:

- eat enough protein (about 1g / lb of lean body mass a day).
- perform intense anaerobic training.
- reduce calories to lose about 1-2 lbs a week.

I guarantee anybody who does that for long enough to get ripped to shredds. Forget about books, fitness trainers, and "gurus". They are all bullshitters who want to steal your money. The whole industry is just a bunch of liars and crooks.

That's what they do on the biggest loser ,they lose ton of weight ,but I've never seen one guy shredded  on that show.

[wavelength]

That's what they do on the biggest loser ,they lose ton of weight ,but I've never seen one guy shredded  on that show.

Never seen the show, but I suspect that they just don't do it for long enough if they do it correctly at all.

[nolotil]

That's what they do on the biggest loser ,they lose ton of weight ,but I've never seen one guy shredded  on that show.

the goal for them isnt to get shredded (in the show) its turning obese people into less obese people. and its a TV show where they overdo everything. the fat people are being pushed too hard but its all for TV.

the more boring solution would be too do much less training and keep good track of food intake and teach eating and training strategies that can be maintained in the long run without a personal trainer shouting in your face 24/7....because there is a life after the show too

not a good idea to go from zero to 100 as an obese person.

[che]

Never seen the show, but I suspect that they just don't do it for long enough if they do it correctly at all.

Getting shredded have to do w/ genetics also.

[The Wizard of Truth]

For anyone who wants to get ripped and never has achieved it since:

You only need to follow 3 simple rules:

- eat enough protein (about 1g / lb of lean body mass a day).
- perform intense anaerobic training.
- reduce calories to lose about 1-2 lbs a week.

I guarantee anybody who does that for long enough to get ripped to shredds. Forget about books, fitness trainers, and "gurus". They are all bullshitters who want to steal your money. The whole industry is just a bunch of liars and crooks.

I dont plan on doing any cardio for my upcoming show prep

[nolotil]

Getting shredded have to do w/ genetics also.

not really. how much muscle mass you are able to retain at low body fat % is governed by genetics. most people dont get inside out shredded..because a) they dont have the mental power to do it b) they dont want too to get totally shredded...etc

the people in the show you mentioned they wanna loose weight and look somewhat normal not get shredded (in the show)..although maybe some of them have that as a longterm goal in the future..but you have to take one step at the time