9/11 - Plane or No Plane - What do you think??

[quadzilla456]

[SAMSON123]

Hologram?

Explosive definitely planted long before 9/11. Controlled demolition without question

[OzmO]

Plane.

All those vids have been debunked at one time or another.

[ToxicAvenger]

Plane.

All those vids have been debunked at one time or another.

something fishy happened though...
the 3rd building feel without any help from a plane

[240 is Back]

the no-plane thing is generally considered false by most people who doubt the official story.

however, that very odd attachment on the bottom of the 2nd plane is interesting.  Of course, all of you people who claim you've read every CT about 911 and found them all to be false - you already know about this object, right? 

[OzmO]

the no-plane thing is generally considered false by most people who doubt the official story.

however, that very odd attachment on the bottom of the 2nd plane is interesting.  Of course, all of you people who claim you've read every CT about 911 and found them all to be false - you already know about this object, right? 

Certainly not.  There are bound to be more silly CT notions that haven't been addressed. 

[240 is Back]

bottom of 2nd plane, anyone?

lmao... talking shit about something you haven't even read about.

[2ND COMING]

in your freaking delusional mind.  The hologram theory didn't need debunked as most everyone didn't buy it from the start so I'm sure you're talking about all the videos on 9/11 being debunked

Never understood how this "hologram" stuff became mainstream and was actually entertained. But thats another topic.

[OzmO]

yea, the pod.  don't bug ozmo over it.  He'll just copy paste the first excuse he can find and call it debunked.

 

[Soul Crusher]

Guys, until you can tell me what happened to Barbara Olsen and that you believe her husband, the former Solicitor General of the US, is on this to, this is nonsense. 

[240 is Back]

333386 ->  The pod. 

You said you've researched all the 911 CTs, and this is one of the biggest.  Your thoughts?

[Soul Crusher]

333386 ->  The pod. 

You said you've researched all the 911 CTs, and this is one of the biggest.  Your thoughts?

My thoughts are that you get so wrapped up in these grand conspiracies but cant answer a basic question for me since the answer collapses your entire balloon.

240 - where is Barbara Olsen and is the ex-solicitor General of the US in on this cT?

yes or no?

[240 is Back]

33, there are thousands of Qs about that day.

You're saying we should ignore a 25-foot attachment to the bottom of a commercial jet because other people have Qs about something else that day?

 No, they are not involved.  I'm talking about something attached to a plane, and you change the subject.  Ya know what, I'm not having this discussion with you until YOU EXPLAIN TO ME the pod theory - what was on the plane, how it got onto a commercial plane, and how those 19 guys on board did it

[Soul Crusher]

33, there are thousands of Qs about that day.

You're saying we should ignore a 25-foot attachment to the bottom of a commercial jet because other people have Qs about something else that day?

 No, they are not involved.  I'm talking about something attached to a plane, and you change the subject.  Ya know what, I'm not having this discussion with you until YOU EXPLAIN TO ME the pod theory - what was on the plane, how it got onto a commercial plane, and how those 19 guys on board did it

So now the ground crew and the pilots were in on this? 

BTW - its your obligation, not mine to explain the CT since you believe it and I dont. 

After what happened in Xmas day, is it so hard to fathom that 4 planes could be hijacked without it being a grand conspiracy. 

You 911 CT'ers mistake evil genius for incompetence. 

I'm willing to look at info, but questions is not evidence.   

[240 is Back]

No, I never said anyone on any crew was in on this.

Hell, if there was a giant pod on the plane, as all the video shows, and as you know, only one kind of plane has that podmount, and it ain't commercial...

My point is that many people claim to have read all the 911 CTs.  But they haven't.  They dont' know what PNAC is, they dont know about the pod.  They don't konw that a small clean hole was burned thru the 3 outer rings of the pentagon, after the plane vaporized on the outside ring.  They pump their fists and claim they've read it all,,, but they haven't. 

So that's all.  You do awesome work exposing the obama spending, and I read all your posts.  But please please please don't claim to have read all the 911 CTs, if these basic ones elude you.  You love the alex jones clips - the dude spent 6 years doing nothing but talking 911 Truth. 

[Soul Crusher]

No, I never said anyone on any crew was in on this.

Hell, if there was a giant pod on the plane, as all the video shows, and as you know, only one kind of plane has that podmount, and it ain't commercial...

My point is that many people claim to have read all the 911 CTs.  But they haven't.  They dont' know what PNAC is, they dont know about the pod.  They don't konw that a small clean hole was burned thru the 3 outer rings of the pentagon, after the plane vaporized on the outside ring.  They pump their fists and claim they've read it all,,, but they haven't. 

So that's all.  You do awesome work exposing the obama spending, and I read all your posts.  But please please please don't claim to have read all the 911 CTs, if these basic ones elude you.  You love the alex jones clips - the dude spent 6 years doing nothing but talking 911 Truth. 

240 - all I ask for is one CT that does not fall apart instantly when one asks even the most basic questions like, where is Barbara Olsen and is her husband in on it. 

[240 is Back]

there is no olsen 911 ct.  that is nonsense.  do you want to keep harping on that?  Or would you like to return to the original topic here?

it would be like if you said "Obama is turning america into a socialist state" and I said "There are lots of CTs about obama... if you cannot prove the birther issue, then your socialist state CT is also false".

[Soul Crusher]

there is no olsen 911 ct.  that is nonsense.  do you want to keep harping on that?  Or would you like to return to the original topic here?

it would be like if you said "Obama is turning america into a socialist state" and I said "There are lots of CTs about obama... if you cannot prove the birther issue, then your socialist state CT is also false".

WRONG 240!!!! 

If you cant account for Barba Olsen, the entire house of cards collapses and you know it. 

[Soul Crusher]

the no-plane thing is generally considered false by most people who doubt the official story.

however, that very odd attachment on the bottom of the 2nd plane is interesting.  Of course, all of you people who claim you've read every CT about 911 and found them all to be false - you already know about this object, right? 

Bump 

[Soul Crusher]

33, there are thousands of Qs about that day.

You're saying we should ignore a 25-foot attachment to the bottom of a commercial jet because other people have Qs about something else that day?

 No, they are not involved.  I'm talking about something attached to a plane, and you change the subject.  Ya know what, I'm not having this discussion with you until YOU EXPLAIN TO ME the pod theory - what was on the plane, how it got onto a commercial plane, and how those 19 guys on board did it

Care to explain this 25 foot attachment?

[240 is Back]

Care to explain this 25 foot attachment?

Is this the first you've heard of it, 33?

If so - I'm embarassed for you.  You claim to "know" all the CTs are bullshit before you hear them. 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x134998

[Soul Crusher]

Is this the first you've heard of it, 33?

If so - I'm embarassed for you.  You claim to "know" all the CTs are bullshit before you hear them. 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x134998

So what do you think was in the magic attachment?  Were the ground crew at the airport in on this?  Thwey just let a plane take off with a mysterious 25 ft attachment?

So now the ground crew at the airport were in on this?   

[240 is Back]

So what do you think was in the magic attachment?  Were the ground crew at the airport in on this?  Thwey just let a plane take off with a mysterious 25 ft attachment?

So now the ground crew at the airport were in on this?   

I dont know and I don't care what was in this attachment.

The point is, it's not your standard airliner.  They don't have that attachment.

So you can run with any assumptions you want.  I just provided video and photographic evidence that the plane hitting the towers contained something on the bottom that isn't there usually.  You can determine anything you want from that.

next, you'll pretend you didn't know about the flash of light this object delivers a split second before impact, right?

Some believe that 'whatever' was attached initiated this flash/explosion immediately before impact.  believe whatever you want.  Watch that 10-second clip.  What do you see? An object that shouldn't be on the plane, delivering a flash before impact. 

[Soul Crusher]

I dont know and I don't care what was in this attachment.

The point is, it's not your standard airliner.  They don't have that attachment.

So you can run with any assumptions you want.  I just provided video and photographic evidence that the plane hitting the towers contained something on the bottom that isn't there usually.  You can determine anything you want from that.

next, you'll pretend you didn't know about the flash of light this object delivers a split second before impact, right?

Some believe that 'whatever' was attached initiated this flash/explosion immediately before impact.  believe whatever you want.  Watch that 10-second clip.  What do you see? An object that shouldn't be on the plane, delivering a flash before impact. 

Here is the problem 240 - and i am saying this am someone who likes you - all of these CT's don't happen in a vacuum.  you have to make many assumptions to believe these theories, where 99% of time these things collapse like a house of cards. 

[240 is Back]

33, you want to change the subject now into the "bigger picture".

Start small.  Look at that 10 second clip.  There is a small puff of smoke behind the 'object' on the plane.  Do you see it.

Then there is a small yellow flash... at the front of the 'attachment'.

Then, there is an impact.

This is some weird shit.  Something that shouldn't have been on a plane, doing something that looks like firing (smoke) a projectile (the flash fire and impact) into the building.

Why?  I have no clue.  You tell me, man!  What the F do you see here?