Mr. Olympia 1997 (Top Six)!!..

[Sherief Shalaby]

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[Sherief Shalaby]

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[Sherief Shalaby]

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[TrapsMcLats]

Nasser looks like a retard facially, but he had a helluva physique back then.

nasser, lee and paul... have three weaker backs ever made the O posedown?

[Sherief Shalaby]

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[Relentless]

Sherief, who do you think should have won this contest?

[calfzilla]

Dorian owning lots of tiny tits in this thread. 

[Matt C]

Sherief, who do you think should have won this contest?

 

[Jonny34]

Kevin is killing Nasser. Nasser looks like a child among men. His back is awful, wow what a mess he is. Glad u agree Sheriff, Nasser is a joke. WOW   Why do all arabic men bald so quickly?

[Sherief Shalaby]

Sherief, who do you think should have won this contest?

never asked myself this question, but really according to these pics. nasser makes the others his bitches

[Sherief Shalaby]

Kevin is killing Nasser. Nasser looks like a child among men. His back is awful, wow what a mess he is. Glad u agree Sheriff, Nasser is a joke. WOW   Why do all arabic men bald so quickly?

kevin had no legs on that day

[Sherief Shalaby]

best legs on that day:

nasser
paul
shawn
dorian
lee
levrone

[hazbin]

there is an argument that Nasser was at times good enough to win the Olympia. now the real question is ' what did he do wrong that kept them from giving him the title??).  only an idiot would claim racism, as we have had Cuban, Austrian, Sardinian, Lebanese, British champions. Black, brown white, gay, straight. so it was something specific to his person, not his race or any group or religous affiliation.  i have met Nasser and he seems personable, but if he has been truly 'screwed' out of the title, then it had to have been due to a personal action or idea.

[kiwiol]

Dorian at his worst destroying the rest of the line up at their best or near best.

Kevin would have been runner up if he looked on Friday the same as he did on Saturday.

[kiwiol]

there is an argument that Nasser was at times good enough to win the Olympia. now the real question is ' what did he do wrong that kept them from giving him the title??).  only an idiot would claim racism, as we have had Cuban, Austrian, Sardinian, Lebanese, British champions. Black, brown white, gay, straight. so it was something specific to his person, not his race or any group or religous affiliation.  i have met Nasser and he seems personable, but if he has been truly 'screwed' out of the title, then it had to have been due to a personal action or idea.

There is no conspiracy. Nasser was a great bodybuilder but there were 3 or 4 guys who (could) beat him every time they dialed in correctly. Like everyone else, Nasser has won and lost contests in multiple countries, in front of different judging panels. He has also won the AC and the NOC as well as Grand Prix shows, so there is no racism or unfairness.

[hazbin]

There is no conspiracy. Nasser was a great bodybuilder but there were 3 or 4 guys who (could) beat him every time they dialed in correctly. Like everyone else, Nasser has won and lost contests in multiple countries, in front of different judging panels. He has also won the AC and the NOC as well as Grand Prix shows, so there is no racism or unfairness.

exactly. but some guys on here say he deserved to win the Olympia.  i was just saying if they are right, he must have been less than an optimal representitive on some level beyond physique. i am not agreeing or disagreeing with them, just through logical analysis bringing up questions as to why he didn't win.

[alnassak]

Bodybuilding for me means:

1-Complete body parts
2- Perfect Symmetry
3- Beautiful muscles shape,
4- Small waist and no guts
5- extreme condition and details, deep separations & visible striations (In all body parts!!)

Based on that, I am gonna place these as follows:-

1-Kevin
2-Shawn
3-Nassir
4-Paul
5-Lee
6-Dorian

*the battle between by Kevin and Shawn is very close. However, Kevin carries more mass

[johnny1]

there is an argument that Nasser was at times good enough to win the Olympia. now the real question is ' what did he do wrong that kept them from giving him the title??).  only an idiot would claim racism, as we have had Cuban, Austrian, Sardinian, Lebanese, British champions. Black, brown white, gay, straight. so it was something specific to his person, not his race or any group or religous affiliation.  i have met Nasser and he seems personable, but if he has been truly 'screwed' out of the title, then it had to have been due to a personal action or idea.

Yeah Ive never brought the Race angle some have suggested, i think the real Question is was Nasser Good enough (in his prime years 1995-98) to actually Win the Olympia, the best indication you could have to that Question is to actually have seen those shows in Person, and to actually see with a unbiased view what the actual criteria was @ the time (in Nasser case the 1990s) Re: the Standards for the time, the judging criteria and more to the point the actual Competition. of course for 99% of us we never saw those Shows in Person so all we got to go on is somewhat half decent Video clips and more commonly pictures...lots of them so we level off "my good pics" against yr "worst pics" and say well look hes better than him ...so with that being said...IMO after watching the 1997 O in VHS and DVD...no i dont think Nasser should have won the 1997 show im not going to explain for 2 pages why its fairly clear his Total Conditioning wasn't as sharp (more so from behind) as it was from the 1996 O even though he had more size, however i do think Nasser had the tools to actually Win in his Prime, unfortunately for him and the others Dorian's Unbelievable CONSISTENT all round conditioning even when his body-parts were being torned apart was still enough for him to come out as Champion, that reason IMO was the reason Dorian kept his title.

  

[Sherief Shalaby]

there is an argument that Nasser was at times good enough to win the Olympia. now the real question is ' what did he do wrong that kept them from giving him the title??).  only an idiot would claim racism, as we have had Cuban, Austrian, Sardinian, Lebanese, British champions. Black, brown white, gay, straight. so it was something specific to his person, not his race or any group or religous affiliation.  i have met Nasser and he seems personable, but if he has been truly 'screwed' out of the title, then it had to have been due to a personal action or idea.

who was the gay mr. olympia???..

so do you think they gave yates the title because his personality was nice??.. still unfair

[Sherief Shalaby]

Yeah Ive never brought the Race angle some have suggested, i think the real Question is was Nasser Good enough (in his prime years 1995-98) to actually Win the Olympia, the best indication you could have to that Question is to actually have seen those shows in Person, and to actually see with a unbiased view what the actual criteria was @ the time (in Nasser case the 1990s) Re: the Standards for the time, the judging criteria and more to the point the actual Competition. of course for 99% of us we never saw those Shows in Person so all we got to go on is somewhat half decent Video clips and more commonly pictures...lots of them so we level off "my good pics" against yr "worst pics" and say well look hes better than him ...so with that being said...IMO after watching the 1997 O in VHS and DVD...no i dont think Nasser should have won the 1997 show im not going to explain for 2 pages why its fairly clear his Total Conditioning wasn't as sharp (more so from behind) as it was from the 1996 O even though he had more size, however i do think Nasser had the tools to actually Win in his Prime, unfortunately for him and the others Dorian's Unbelievable CONSISTENT all round conditioning even when his body-parts were being torned apart was still enough for him to come out as Champion, that reason IMO was the reason Dorian kept his title.

  

i too dont buy this race thing!!.. i believe they just wanted yates the great champ to leave with no defeats and then to create another dominant champ and they didnt want nasser to be this dominant champ, may be because of his opinions, may be because of his back, i am not sure.. but all these things aside, physique agaisnt physique yates was not the best on that day.. from many angles his totally destroyed left arm can be seen, this should have marked him down in more than one pose and also in the posedown.. also his lower body was not at its best and both nasser and dillett were clearly better than him there.. and if we put his great back aside (which too was not close to his best) his chest, shoulder, abs were not the best on stage.. sure bb is not a parts contest but still weak parts cant make great poses together even if dorian's natural structure was great..

yes i agree nasser was better in 95 and 96 than 97 but still in 97 he was good enough to beat dorian and the others..

[kiwiol]

who was the gay mr. olympia???..

Chris Dickerson

[Sherief Shalaby]

Chris Dickerson

ops!!!.. anyway great he is not one of my favorites!!..

[Sherief Shalaby]

Dorian at his worst destroying the rest of the line up at their best or near best.

Kevin would have been runner up if he looked on Friday the same as he did on Saturday.

strange that you said before you believed that nasser should have won!!.. your opinions are not always constant, arent they?

[just_a_pilgrim]

I remember someone in the audience posted on a message board that they were there and Dorian's hardness when there was light years ahead of anyone else. Then they told one of the judges that and he replied 'You should see the hardness difference from the third row!'

I have seen a few Grand Prix's from 1996 with not so great lighting, just the camara right on them and Dorian wins easily. So much harder, it was really over when he turned around it wasn't even a competition. Sorry Sherief Dorian had flaws but the hardness was too much IMO.

[Sherief Shalaby]

I remember someone in the audience posted on a message board that they were there and Dorian's hardness when there was light years ahead of anyone else. Then they told one of the judges that and he replied 'You should see the hardness difference from the third row!'

I have seen a few Grand Prix's from 1996 with not so great lighting, just the camara right on them and Dorian wins easily. So much harder, it was really over when he turned around it wasn't even a competition. Sorry Sherief Dorian had flaws but the hardness was too much IMO.

my point is that dorian had a missing part, this cant be considered just a flaw!.. and this missing part affected many important poses like the FDB, FLS, MM and many more poses he hit in his routine and in the posedown!!..

anyway man i really didnt want to make this thread another "who should have won mr. o. 97".. i just scanned some pics for nasser's facebook page and wanted to share them here...