I want to know why Vince is making faces like he is flexing real hard, and all you see is seal smooth skin. Seriously, someone on here needs to visit Vince at the gym and see what he actually does. Most newbies in 6 months could make better improvements than him in 4 yrs. In fact, most newbies in 6 mos look better than he did on stage, and that's without dieting.