like everyone said the extremes on both ends is a shock,,but then u have labrada,gaspari,haney,demey,at least them resemble a former great something ,and still sport some muscle demey,too still lean and vascular gaspari,and good shape labrada,i wonder if the era they competed in was more in the way loved to train,diet,and take what they took at the time but when they came off or hrt is what helped them stay muscular...