Living in London (gangs etc)

[Valane]

I've lived in London all my life and I can confirm the depravity and shithole(ness) of this place. I live in Finchley Road which is all white, nice and close to any area that's worth living in London. Anything, anywhere south of the river Thames is not worth going. Full of queers and blacks which brings down the whole tone of the place. London is full of disgusting little birdcage-like houses which is FAR more expensive than your average American house. I might take flak for this but the (white) Europeans that immigrated here brings it up for me a bit. The Asian and Africans who live south of the city turns it into Islamabad or Nairobi where they're usually from.
London does have a wicked night life if you know where to go. Slamming this place is one thing, but it's the best place to live in England. Any smaller town is usually stack with decrepit town centres, inbred teenagers sitting around on stolen peddle bikes with pasty faces and ear studs, just generally being a fucking nuisance. The Southwest of the county is still lovely, leafy and white and completely worth visiting. However, you have to deal with narrow-minded small town mentalities. It's usually families that can trace their roots back 20000000000000 years to within a square mile of where they live. The whole ancestry has also never been outside that square mile so they know fuck all of life and the real world outside their little closed communities. One can also not help but notice the uncanny resemblance everyone in the town shares with each other. Almost like they all share the same father.

The English language doesn't allow me strong and enough adjectives describing the North of the country and the industrial drunken wastelands it is. That used to be true blue heartland, until football and drink replaced the culture it once had. Now they're all on the dole (benefits) or work in factories (like father like son) reading tabloids, idolising scratch-an-sniff armpit celebs  and drinking away whatever little they earn in railway pubs.

If you all want to know more about England, just ask. Always happy to teach unsuspecting people about this muddy island.

Very good summary, classic post.

[Cavalier22]

James

Immigration from Islamic countries, even former commonwealth countries, must be stopped at once.

Agree or disagree?

[UGMT]

I lived in NYC my whole life but spent my summers in Dagenham especially as a teen. It's fun, but a total shithole. Haven't been back in a few years now; I hear it's changed quite a bit from when I was over there. My family lived in the Barking & Dagenham area for a LONG time and they eventually moved to Hullbridge more in the country. Sad to see what's become of the country.

[slate]

Very good summary, classic post.

Unlike the rich cosmopolitan US heartlands full of open minded , well educated people lol

[James28]

James

Immigration from Islamic countries, even former commonwealth countries, must be stopped at once.

Agree or disagree?

I'm going to take a ball kicking for this but no, I don't really care about immigration. I care about you falling in line with Britain's rules and culture and not flap your little black wings every time you can construe something as 'offensive'. This goes for Muslims and those Commonwealth Countries (South Africa, Australia, NZ, Canada, Malaysia and many others, for those that don't know) citizens. Australians are THE top Non-EU (legal) immigrants to the UK. They can all come here for all I care, absolutely blinding people. It's only fair as well, Britain is filter out to Oz anyway. I call a spade and spade and it's the Spades that doesn't necessarily attempt to get with the program, but somehow find a way to play the victim. Anyone heard this before?   . The Canadians, Kiwis, Aussies and Saffers fit in easily and not puff their chests at all. After all, they're here on Her Majesty's invitation and can quickly get fucked off should they become bothersome as different rules usually apply to their stay here. (Disclaimer: I think nothing of that old ####, The queen)

What does raise bile to my throat and have me spew poison is our politicians. Fucking no good jobworths slimy girls. They opened the borders to this country to every sperm bag, its burka'd whore and their 47 kids. This is not every immigrant I'm on about, it's the ones that crawl over here with no intention of ever working and becoming a contributing member of society, but just to leech and mooch as much as they can and hope it last long enough before their doors get kicked down and their throats stomped on. Don't see it as a meltdown as I'm typing this with a (admittedly forced) smile on my face.

That is enough about immigrants. In short, please come, stay, but get a job and learn the language.

Our indigenous generation of British born dole-tossing rats warrant a whole new discussion.

[James28]

Unlike the rich cosmopolitan US heartlands full of open minded , well educated people lol

I have oodles of time for Americans. They get an unfair rap around the world that is not deserved at all. I've travelled America extensively and every town and city was a delight. Naturally your closet-minded bible hugger cross swaying weirdos exist, put I see them as interesting pets that's new and fun to watch from afar. Anyway, I've never lived there so it might be different if I do so, but I for one wouldn't be scared away because of whatever generalisation of its people goes around.

[Team Diver]

Very good summary, classic post.

I agree!

[210 and growing]

I'm going to take a ball kicking for this but no, I don't really care about immigration. I care about you falling in line with Britain's rules and culture and not flap your little black wings every time you can construe something as 'offensive'. This goes for Muslims and those Commonwealth Countries (South Africa, Australia, NZ, Canada, Malaysia and many others, for those that don't know) citizens. Australians are THE top Non-EU (legal) immigrants to the UK. They can all come here for all I care, absolutely blinding people. It's only fair as well, Britain is filter out to Oz anyway. I call a spade and spade and it's the Spades that doesn't necessarily attempt to get with the program, but somehow find a way to play the victim. Anyone heard this before?   . The Canadians, Kiwis, Aussies and Saffers fit in easily and not puff their chests at all. After all, they're here on Her Majesty's invitation and can quickly get fucked off should they become bothersome as different rules usually apply to their stay here. (Disclaimer: I think nothing of that old ####, The queen)

What does raise bile to my throat and have me spew poison is our politicians. Fucking no good jobworths slimy girls. They opened the borders to this country to every sperm bag, its burka'd whore and their 47 kids. This is not every immigrant I'm on about, it's the ones that crawl over here with no intention of ever working and becoming a contributing member of society, but just to leech and mooch as much as they can and hope it last long enough before their doors get kicked down and their throats stomped on. Don't see it as a meltdown as I'm typing this with a (admittedly forced) smile on my face.

That is enough about immigrants. In short, please come, stay, but get a job and learn the language.

Our indigenous generation of British born dole-tossing rats warrant a whole new discussion.

Great post - I agree 100% as a fellow brit

[crownshep]

Perfect book title for a description of London.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Londonistan-UPDATED-NEW-FOREWORD-Creating/dp/1906142300/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1268314224&sr=8-1

[James28]

Perfect book title for a description of London.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Londonistan-UPDATED-NEW-FOREWORD-Creating/dp/1906142300/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1268314224&sr=8-1

Yep, good book. Read it twice. I'm not necessarily buying into any fear mongering, but I am very aware that it exist and the politicos are doing their utmost best to cause that. Call me sensationalistic or a conspiracy theorist if you want, but I have little doubt in my mind that in my life or those of my kids, we will see another World war and after that, a United States of Europe. Let's have a look what we have so far in Europe shall we.

President (unelected) -- check
United currency -- check
Parliament -- check
Foreign Minister -- check
Courts -- check
Central Bank -- check
Flag -- check

Right there you have enough building blocks to construct a new nation. One we've never asked for. I applauded the Irish for voting against the Lisbon treaty but sadly knew a vicious round of fear mongering and arm twisting would result in a Yes vote the second time round. It happened.

I'm all for integration between countries, immigration if it benefits the host country, or freedom of travel. What I'm not for is a lost of sovereignty, colonisation of my country and unelected officials speaking on my behalf.

Sadly we cannot do a thing here in Britain because people are genuinely too stupid. I don't mean that in a nasty way, they just don't have the required mental breadth to tear themselves away from football, drink, money or reality TV that we're fed and engage their own intelligence for a second. The political classes have been allowed, and still is allowed to run around unchecked.

[me-109]

London is an overpriced ancient slum packed with twinks and fat old drunken bald basterds.

[Method101]

 

[pellius]

I agree!

On to matters of much more importance: can you refer me to the link to where you got that pic for your avatar? It's a classic and I often wonder what ever happened to that beast.

[Captain Equipoise]

We have the same problems that are facing Britain in Canada, not to sound racist but both countries need to shut the floodgates closed, way too much trash is getting in, I myself am a European immigrant living in Canada (great country) but I took the my immigration seriously and immersed myself in Canadian culture and hsitory, I bothered to learn the language perfectly. I speak, read and write it fluently went through the high school system here , through college, university and work full time supporting myself and my fiancee, pay taxes, etc. the norm. Then I see these families of 30 with their 18 children, 4 aunts, 6 cousins and etc. coming over, not speaking (or bothering to learn) a single word of english to live and mooch off the social assistance system, it disgusts me. As a hard working tax payer I think welfare should be completely abolished or given as a maximum of 3 months ONCE per lifetime. It's getting ridiculous these bastards get government housing (rent is $60.00 a month) whereas I pay $1,100.00 monlthy, and an amount of money for each child they have on support. On average it's about 6 kids, on top of that the dad still works ilegally under the table for cash...it's ridiculous.

[Method101]

We have the same problems that are facing Britain in Canada, not to sound racist but both countries need to shut the floodgates closed, way too much trash is getting in, I myself am a European immigrant living in Canada (great country) but I took the my immigration seriously and immersed myself in Canadian culture and hsitory, I bothered to learn the language perfectly. I speak, read and write it fluently went through the high school system here , through college, university and work full time supporting myself and my fiancee, pay taxes, etc. the norm. Then I see these families of 30 with their 18 children, 4 aunts, 6 cousins and etc. coming over, not speaking (or bothering to learn) a single word of english to live and mooch off the social assistance system, it disgusts me. As a hard working tax payer I think welfare should be completely abolished or given as a maximum of 3 months ONCE per lifetime. It's getting ridiculous these bastards get government housing (rent is $60.00 a month) whereas I pay $1,100.00 monlthy, and an amount of money for each child they have on support. On average it's about 6 kids, on top of that the dad still works ilegally under the table for cash...it's ridiculous.

www.resist.com

[Purple Aki]

www.resist.com

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Jobseekers/LookingForWork/index.htm

[G_Thang]

We have the same problems that are facing Britain in Canada, not to sound racist but both countries need to shut the floodgates closed, way too much trash is getting in, I myself am a European immigrant living in Canada (great country) but I took the my immigration seriously and immersed myself in Canadian culture and hsitory, I bothered to learn the language perfectly. I speak, read and write it fluently went through the high school system here , through college, university and work full time supporting myself and my fiancee, pay taxes, etc. the norm. Then I see these families of 30 with their 18 children, 4 aunts, 6 cousins and etc. coming over, not speaking (or bothering to learn) a single word of english to live and mooch off the social assistance system, it disgusts me. As a hard working tax payer I think welfare should be completely abolished or given as a maximum of 3 months ONCE per lifetime. It's getting ridiculous these bastards get government housing (rent is $60.00 a month) whereas I pay $1,100.00 monlthy, and an amount of money for each child they have on support. On average it's about 6 kids, on top of that the dad still works ilegally under the table for cash...it's ridiculous.

can u pm me some info on the housing deals in canada?  does this work if u are 1st generation born in states?  that's almost as good as squatting.

[The Wizard of Truth]

We have the same problems that are facing Britain in Canada, not to sound racist but both countries need to shut the floodgates closed, way too much trash is getting in, I myself am a European immigrant living in Canada (great country) but I took the my immigration seriously and immersed myself in Canadian culture and hsitory, I bothered to learn the language perfectly. I speak, read and write it fluently went through the high school system here , through college, university and work full time supporting myself and my fiancee, pay taxes, etc. the norm. Then I see these families of 30 with their 18 children, 4 aunts, 6 cousins and etc. coming over, not speaking (or bothering to learn) a single word of english to live and mooch off the social assistance system, it disgusts me. As a hard working tax payer I think welfare should be completely abolished or given as a maximum of 3 months ONCE per lifetime. It's getting ridiculous these bastards get government housing (rent is $60.00 a month) whereas I pay $1,100.00 monlthy, and an amount of money for each child they have on support. On average it's about 6 kids, on top of that the dad still works ilegally under the table for cash...it's ridiculous.

Look man,every developed country is fucked by immigration
Ireland was a very prosperous country 5yrs ago,then they allowed every animal in from africa and gypsy in from romania
What sense does it make? They are no good for here,or england,or canada,or usa
Its just nobody here will actuallyh do anything about it (except in Belfast,where they kept burnin down d houses of romanian scum  )

[WillGrant]

I know I am, I'm sure I am
I'm West Ham till I die

[Team Diver]

On to matters of much more importance: can you refer me to the link to where you got that pic for your avatar? It's a classic and I often wonder what ever happened to that beast.

 
Don't have the link - I resized a screen capture half decade ago which I found over at ironage...
I have pumping iron on DVD so I could do a fresh screen cap but I am lazy.

[stuntmovie]

Haven't had a chance to read all these posts just yet, but right now there is a major movie being shot in England about this very subject and one of my relatives is raving about the kids who play the parts of the gang-members, none of whom have had much acting experience but hit the "wow factor" in front of and behind the camera.

I've never been to England but I honestly had relatives who were escorted from the states by the Queen's Royal Footmen (or whatever they are called) to attend her coronation back when she was 'coronated' in the 50's or thereabouts.

Needless to say that they never ran into any gang related problems while guests of the Royals.

[Fatpanda]

We have the same problems that are facing Britain in Canada, not to sound racist but both countries need to shut the floodgates closed, way too much trash is getting in, I myself am a European immigrant living in Canada (great country) but I took the my immigration seriously and immersed myself in Canadian culture and hsitory, I bothered to learn the language perfectly. I speak, read and write it fluently went through the high school system here , through college, university and work full time supporting myself and my fiancee, pay taxes, etc. the norm. Then I see these families of 30 with their 18 children, 4 aunts, 6 cousins and etc. coming over, not speaking (or bothering to learn) a single word of english to live and mooch off the social assistance system, it disgusts me. As a hard working tax payer I think welfare should be completely abolished or given as a maximum of 3 months ONCE per lifetime. It's getting ridiculous these bastards get government housing (rent is $60.00 a month) whereas I pay $1,100.00 monlthy, and an amount of money for each child they have on support. On average it's about 6 kids, on top of that the dad still works ilegally under the table for cash...it's ridiculous.

Look man,every developed country is fucked by immigration
Ireland was a very prosperous country 5yrs ago,then they allowed every animal in from africa and gypsy in from romania
What sense does it make? They are no good for here,or england,or canada,or usa
Its just nobody here will actuallyh do anything about it (except in Belfast,where they kept burnin down d houses of romanian scum  )

so what exactly are you both saying ? that all emigration should be stopped ? or just all non educated white should be stopped 

[honest]

Democracy and Capitalism is the problem with all of our developed countries, capitalism needs an increasing number of consumers (population growth to keep the wheels turning), grow your population grow your economy get richer, politicians are happy to do this as they represent only for their own self interests, not the masses that vote them in. The native population of the UK are a disgrace, I dont like the immigrants but the natives are just as bad, fat lager louts on the social, its the whispers of this form of existence throughout the third world is what brings their scum to our shores, seeking similar type of existence. It is unsustaniable in the long run and sadly the only hope we have as our western leaders are so self interested is that as Muslim become the majority and vote differently that they will abolish this type of lazy fat bastardity, and try to reinstate some good in this polluted failed white system.

[shootfighter1]

Really interesting discussion.  I guess I mainly enjoyed the history and architecture.  What has been said about certain immigrants and naitives that just want to collect the benefits of the government entitlements is really concerning, particularly as the U.S. seems to be leaning more in that direction as of late.  I think social programs are pushed with benevolent (good) intentions but they have unexpected consequences.  Yeah, there is no way that open borders attracting lazy foreigners to sap off the system (with others work and pay high taxes to support them) is a good idea.
England has a real issue with not being able to control the radical muslims within their borders too.  I hope to see more natives grow a backbone and the upstanding muslims throw these A-holes out.  We are too PC for our own good these days...another idea that has good intentions but has bit us in the arse.

[Method101]

Really interesting discussion.  I guess I mainly enjoyed the history and architecture.  What has been said about certain immigrants and naitives that just want to collect the benefits of the government entitlements is really concerning, particularly as the U.S. seems to be leaning more in that direction as of late.  I think social programs are pushed with benevolent (good) intentions but they have unexpected consequences.  Yeah, there is no way that open borders attracting lazy foreigners to sap off the system (with others work and pay high taxes to support them) is a good idea.
England has a real issue with not being able to control the radical muslims within their borders too.  I hope to see more natives grow a backbone and the upstanding muslims throw these A-holes out.  We are too PC for our own good these days...another idea that has good intentions but has bit us in the arse.

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