Juicing, is it worth it?

[rockyfortune]

This is Goodrum on roids as he said.  So NO it is NOT worth it

haha..this is a great picture...i'm still amazed he fucking posed that way...

[BayGBM]

I've been training naturally all my life. Now my test levels are dropping and my 30s are approaching and i'm thinking about trying out the juice.

 The thing is, I know that I only want to do light cycles occasionally. Because I travel so much, it would be very difficult for me to become a total juice monkey. I am only looking for solid gains that can be maintained naturally. I'm seriously just looking to use the drugs as a finishing touch to reach my own humble goals.

 So what do you think? Is it worth it to do a light cycle here and there, about once per year or once per year and a half? Or should I just leave my body chemistry alone? I here lots of guys say that doing a light cycle here and there is not good, because it just sends your hormone levels on a rollercoaster ride.

 What do you think?
 
 

Do it!  Give yourself to the dark side!  Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father!

[affeman]

I've been training naturally all my life. Now my test levels are dropping and my 30s are approaching and i'm thinking about trying out the juice.

 The thing is, I know that I only want to do light cycles occasionally. Because I travel so much, it would be very difficult for me to become a total juice monkey. I am only looking for solid gains that can be maintained naturally. I'm seriously just looking to use the drugs as a finishing touch to reach my own humble goals.

 So what do you think? Is it worth it to do a light cycle here and there, about once per year or once per year and a half? Or should I just leave my body chemistry alone? I here lots of guys say that doing a light cycle here and there is not good, because it just sends your hormone levels on a rollercoaster ride.

 What do you think?
 
 

In all honesty: Training without juice is pointless. Unless of course you enjoy training so much that you can't think of any better hobbies.

If you train for looks only, training without juice makes no sense at all.

[delta9mda]

I've been training naturally all my life. Now my test levels are dropping and my 30s are approaching and i'm thinking about trying out the juice.

 The thing is, I know that I only want to do light cycles occasionally. Because I travel so much, it would be very difficult for me to become a total juice monkey. I am only looking for solid gains that can be maintained naturally. I'm seriously just looking to use the drugs as a finishing touch to reach my own humble goals.

 So what do you think? Is it worth it to do a light cycle here and there, about once per year or once per year and a half? Or should I just leave my body chemistry alone? I here lots of guys say that doing a light cycle here and there is not good, because it just sends your hormone levels on a rollercoaster ride.

 What do you think?
 
 

short answer, yes.

[Flexb]

Short term, yes. Long term, maybe not. You may dramatically lower your natural test levels once you do decide you've had enough from juice. But that's ok too, cause you can get the doc to put you on test for life. lol

[MJK]

Short term, yes. Long term, maybe not. You may dramatically lower your natural test levels once you do decide you've had enough from juice. But that's ok too, cause you can get the doc to put you on test for life. lol

I believe most men, by 40, should go on hrt. Without T life begins to suck in many different ways.

[tom joad]

In all honesty: Training without juice is pointless. Unless of course you enjoy training so much that you can't think of any better hobbies.

If you train for looks only, training without juice makes no sense at all.

natural lifters who have decent genetics, are athletic, eat well and weight train consistently will look better than about 95% of the people out there. 

[Flexb]

I believe most men, by 40, should go on hrt. Without T life begins to suck in many different ways.

Yes, I'm tryin andriol right now but not sure and it's been 3 weeks, almost 4 

[affeman]

natural lifters who have decent genetics, are athletic, eat well and weight train consistently will look better than about 95% of the people out there. 

But not to the extend to shock the ordinary "worms" out there.

[drkaje]

natural lifters who have decent genetics, are athletic, eat well and weight train consistently will look better than about 95% of the people out there. 

True.

Also they don't have to worry about sides.

[coltrane]

How do you know your test levels are dropping when you're not even in your 30's yet? That's ridiculous - I think you're just looking for an excuse to take them.

If you're never going to compete then there's no reason why you should be using gear. You can build an outstanding physique by hard training and proper diet alone which will stand you out significantly from the general non-training public (and even those who do train). You've just got to man up and do the best you can with what you've got. Good luck.

Best advice yet. 
Remember that steroids are drugs.. and you're gonna wanna go back on once off.  THis is why i won't mess w them. 

[Flexb]

You can't build a good physique if your test levels are low though no matter how well you diet and how hard you train.

[Fatpanda]

Skip the juice, and put some synthol in your arm. You will get much better results.

what are you suggesting ?

[aglifter]

You should juice heavily for the rest of your life.  Then you won't have to worry about endogenous testosterone production.

[saopl]

You should juice heavily for the rest of your life until your heart and all surrounding organs fail by age 55.  Then you won't have to worry about endogenous testosterone production.

fixed

[io856]

You should juice heavily for the rest of your life.  Then you won't have to worry about endogenous testosterone production.

[aglifter]

fixed

same as what i said, just a little more detailed 

[Rami]

No, it's not worth it. Why would it ever be. Depending on pills and needles for the rest of your life.

[tom joad]

what's the point?  are you gonna score more babes because you'll be on the sauce? haha  

what are you gonna say when somebody asks you if you're on roids (when you are in fact juicing)?  lie and say no?

[drkaje]

Most people don't look much better for having taken them.

[Board_SHERIF]

pop superdrol clone.....

[Ropo]

I've been training naturally all my life. Now my test levels are dropping and my 30s are approaching and i'm thinking about trying out the juice.

 The thing is, I know that I only want to do light cycles occasionally. Because I travel so much, it would be very difficult for me to become a total juice monkey. I am only looking for solid gains that can be maintained naturally. I'm seriously just looking to use the drugs as a finishing touch to reach my own humble goals.

 So what do you think? Is it worth it to do a light cycle here and there, about once per year or once per year and a half? Or should I just leave my body chemistry alone? I here lots of guys say that doing a light cycle here and there is not good, because it just sends your hormone levels on a rollercoaster ride.
 What do you think?

If you are training for the competition, why not? If you are training for better condition, healthier life etc. it isn't worth it. Point is, that with juicing, you get fake muscles which shrink away if you stop juicing, and there isn't any way to stop that to happen, no matter what the geeks of the getbig says.  So if you are in to lying to yourself, go for it and you still know all the time what is the truth. Train without juicing and you always know that all you get out of it, isn't fake. Juicing without potential career of competition in this sport is for idiots and brats with low self esteem and is its just as smart as using synthol like those Latino teens. And  another point of view is that you never know what happens till you try it. I don't say that your dick fall of, but there is plenty of side effects etc. which could make your life quite interesting and there will be some no matter what. For example, are you ready for teen age acne all over again? If you haven't try them, you don't know how that stuff fit to your system, how much you need for "reasonable results" and how much money you have to invest to this crap.

There will be great number of experts and advisers in the net, but who you can trust? If you don't have a real doctor to consult about the matter, you are on your own because these internet gurus and wise ass brats will treat you as an guinea pig and feed you so much bullshit that it comes out to your ears. Want some evidence? Just read this forum and you realize that there is quite small percent of these clowns who is mentally stable, and great number of little boys who are just as stupid as you can get. Are you willing to put your health and future in those hands? You could find yourself  eating dry yeast and smoking pot till your heart stops

[HTexan]

not worth the sides.

[just_a_pilgrim]

You don't just lose the muscle you gained if you keep training and eating correctly. You definately will be at another level if you do a few cycles, a level you cannot reach naturally no matter how many years you train.

IMO use it while dieting it will be better. I also do not believe PCT makes much difference, your body has to bounce back from something i believe PCT just delayed things when i used it.

I used for 4 years and cleaned out. I have still gained muscle since i stopped. I would not look how i do now without that juicing, no way.

[just_a_pilgrim]

If you are training for the competition, why not? If you are training for better condition, healthier life etc. it isn't worth it. Point is, that with juicing, you get fake muscles which shrink away if you stop juicing, and there isn't any way to stop that to happen, no matter what the geeks of the getbig says.  So if you are in to lying to yourself, go for it and you still know all the time what is the truth. Train without juicing and you always know that all you get out of it, isn't fake. Juicing without potential career of competition in this sport is for idiots and brats with low self esteem and is its just as smart as using synthol like those Latino teens. And  another point of view is that you never know what happens till you try it. I don't say that your dick fall of, but there is plenty of side effects etc. which could make your life quite interesting and there will be some no matter what. For example, are you ready for teen age acne all over again? If you haven't try them, you don't know how that stuff fit to your system, how much you need for "reasonable results" and how much money you have to invest to this crap.

There will be great number of experts and advisers in the net, but who you can trust? If you don't have a real doctor to consult about the matter, you are on your own because these internet gurus and wise ass brats will treat you as an guinea pig and feed you so much bullshit that it comes out to your ears. Want some evidence? Just read this forum and you realize that there is quite small percent of these clowns who is mentally stable, and great number of little boys who are just as stupid as you can get. Are you willing to put your health and future in those hands? You could find yourself  eating dry yeast and smoking pot till your heart stops

Considering how you have spent two paragraghs taking pot shots at people, as well as lies about juicing (clearly you have no idea), i'd say you are not one of those who is mentally stable.

To OP, i know i just posted it, but you do NOT just lose your muscle when you stop juicing. If you keep at it, you should hold most if not all. You will lose bloat and fluid that juice will hold and as a result you will probably look better off juice.

Maybe it's hard for me to compare myself to these bullshit stories though since i am dedicated where as most people who juice and then lose anything arn't.