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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2010, 08:44:20 PM »
OK, Stickdick123...........i f I was part of some huge conspiracy to wire and blow up WTC and my fellow cohorts were dying off "mysteriously", I would step forward and blow the whole thing wide open with whatever knowledge I had.

Why has nobody involved in wiring/placing explosives stepped forward?  How is it all these security, construction workers everyone keeps talking about are so quiet? I haven't heard of one single person stepping forward and claiming they know details because they were involved. Every one of you keep making assumptions about how it could be done, but those assumptions are full of more holes than the governments "official" version of what happened. ::)

You're NAIVE as fuck.... why have the New York City firemen/police men involved in 911 who were so vocal on the events of the day: the explosions they heard in the buildings, the bombs they saw etc etc all developed LOCK JAW afterward?? You know why? your FBI, CIA, NSA and all the other alphabet agencies paid them a visit. It was not the kinda visit where "hellos" are exchanged. I am talking threats to ones life if they talk. Watch the video LOOSE CHANGE...how come all of those fire fighters who were so vocal in the documentary on what happened that day, will not say a word today on what happened, what they saw, what they heard or whether they were being told to say nothing.

Like I said..you asshole know nothing about your country, its policies, its corruption, its vileness or its secrecy...

And no your PUNK ASS would not say anything, because you VALUE YOUR LIFE AND THE LIVES OF YOUR FAMILY, RELATIVES etc.....
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« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2010, 08:45:55 PM »
doesn't matter.  the ppl who talk the most about how silly it is, cannot list the top 10 questions that the 'truthers' have.

333386 didn't know about willie brown warning... i mean, really? ???

It's basically a bunch of 1st graders teasing a 3rd grader who says there is no santa claus.  gotta let them keep talking.  ozmo read a book and debated the stuf years ago... still didn't know about the vacuum/falling faster than freefall?

The fact is, the thousands of engineers willing to be scorned and labeled as nuts know a shitload more about the physics of that day than any of us.

You're absolutely right...
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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2010, 08:47:07 PM »
The steel did not disintegrate, but the concrete was turned literally into powder...something that is impossible. The steel was shipped off to China, Korea etc and was melted down and used for whatever purpose. We do know that some of the steel was made in to a new ship (media broadcast that news). The fact that NO BUILDING HAS EVER FALLEN DOWN FROM FIRE OR PLANE COLLISION is what makes this whole matter questionable.

So because no building has ever fallen from a fire or a plane collision it makes what happen false?  Typical CT'er logic.  How many buildings have been slammed into buy a airliner full of fuel in the past?  


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A jet crashed into the Empire State Building, punched a whole through the building , exploded in a scenario just like the World Trade, yet the building is there today. Can someone explain why there was no collapse?

When did a JET crash into the Empire state building?  Samson, do you know the difference between a B-17 and a modern day airliner?  Do yo the difference in size, speed, and fuel?


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I believe you already know that skyscrapers around the world have been on fire...some for more than 24 hours with a white hot inferno of a fire, yet the building stood and did not fall down afterward.

How hot exactly?  Do you know how hot these fires were burning?  Were they burning as hot as JET FUEL Burns?


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Why did building 7 fall then when there was no white hot inferno burning inside?

It was severely damaged from debris and eventually collapsed.

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The fact that WTC debris was carted off and disposed of IMMEDIATELY after the collapse only make the matter all the more suspicious.

True, wouldn't they have just left it laying around for everyone to inspect if there wasn't something they were hiding?

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There is a lot of debris carried off and buried in the state of New Jersey (or another nearby state) that is under military watch 24/7...now why is that necessary?...unless there is something to hide.

Is this just as factual as your JET into the Empire state building claim?

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We already know that engineers, architects, metallurgist, physicist, concrete specialist, etc etc all have analyzed the debris only to speak of the impossibility of events occurring as the MSM and government claimed. Those who worked in the WTC and spoke up about he events of the day seem to "magically" keep dying off under suspicious circumstances.

Sounds like the makings of a good movie.  Is Jesse Ventura and the makers of Loose Change next?

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The events continue to get more suspicious when you see that the building fell neatly into its own footprint.

Didn't look very neat to me, or to the clean up crews.  Do you expect it to fall like a tower made of wooden blocks in your parents living room?

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It gets too incredible to believe when it was reported that the company CONTROLLED DEMOLITION was the ones who cleaned up the WTC site afterward!!!! Add in the fact that heavy equipment that is located NO WHERE in New York ew Jersey just happened to be sitting in New Jersey the night before right across the Hudson River is all too convenient. Sorta like Southcom sitting in Florida running a drill literally hours before Haitis earthquake, or the drill that was being conducted near teh Oklahoma City building the very day it was bombed. Hmmmmm?

You mean like cranes and large dump trucks?  Yeah, cranes in NYC, NO WAY!

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By the way for those who question how the building could have been wired with thermite. Keep in mind only one third of the WTC was in use. Those two building were HUGE and for the most part UNOCCUPIED so it would have been easy to wire the many empty floors and then wire the occupied floors by way of the many construction projects, after work hours, security teams, unannounced blackouts, closures and security breaches the employees of the WTC spoke of. This destruction was planned years ahead..as all government things are...and stealthfully carried out.

So the 2 WTC's 200 floors or offices of them 130 not in use?  Right.  Another JET into the Empire state building claim.  

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I am glad people, engineers, architects etc are calling for investigation...at some point the government will have to admit what it did. It is already documented that the desire to tear down the WTC was being investigated by the WTC owners because of it being a white elephant of sorts, but because of the 5 BILLION dollar cost it required to do so, anther way was being looked into accomplishing that. What better than to fake a terrorist scenario (blame the Arabs) and do it with controlled demolition, which would then justify the war and stealing of oil from Iraq and Afghanistan.... Win Win situation...


This is probably one of the first times I've taken the time to read one of your cut and paste responses.  It was what i thought it was gonna be.   It was filled with poor logic, over zealous conjecture and fallacy.  You should probably try and stick to more tested sites to find you responses or at least read what you cut and paste first.

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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2010, 08:48:54 PM »
Hey Stupid...for someone so NEW to the board you have quite the attitude. Can you explain why building 7 collapsed in the same manner when NO PLANE HIT IT????
LOL....meltdown much? Newsflash, people that spend less than 20 hours a week on this board DO have opinions and some of us our well educated. Ask those experts what happened the last time two large aircraft crashed into a large metropolitan cluster of buildings.......(wait for it)...Oh yeah, it had never happened before.

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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2010, 08:59:26 PM »
You're NAIVE as fuck.... why have the New York City firemen/police men involved in 911 who were so vocal on the events of the day: the explosions they heard in the buildings, the bombs they saw etc etc all developed LOCK JAW afterward?? You know why? your FBI, CIA, NSA and all the other alphabet agencies paid them a visit. It was not the kinda visit where "hellos" are exchanged. I am talking threats to ones life if they talk. Watch the video LOOSE CHANGE...how come all of those fire fighters who were so vocal in the documentary on what happened that day, will not say a word today on what happened, what they saw, what they heard or whether they were being told to say nothing.

Like I said..you asshole know nothing about your country, its policies, its corruption, its vileness or its secrecy...
And no your PUNK ASS would not say anything, because you VALUE YOUR LIFE AND THE LIVES OF YOUR FAMILY, RELATIVES etc.....
Prove any of what you claim as the truth is true.

And I always love how Americans don't know shit about their own country, but some shitstain in some third world, rat infested shithole knows everything about it. ;D
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2010, 09:04:17 PM »
Can any anti-truther/anti-ct'er explain how Satam al-Suqami (one of the hijackers) passport was found comepletely intact, outside wtc? The passport was inside the plain when it hit wtc.

I mean, if you believe the burning jetfuel brought down wtc you have to question why the passport was not incinerated in the building.

This is just one of many little head-scratchers that get over shadowed by the actual physics part of the event, which is what encompases the main debate between fair-weather debunkers and extreme truther types.

Its a good starting point. Im curious what everyone believes on this.


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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2010, 09:09:58 PM »
Can any anti-truther/anti-ct'er explain how Satam al-Suqami (one of the hijackers) passport was found comepletely intact, outside wtc? The passport was inside the plain when it hit wtc.

I mean, if you believe the burning jetfuel brought down wtc you have to question why the passport was not incinerated in the building.

This is just one of many little head-scratchers that get over shadowed by the actual physics part of the event, which is what encompases the main debate between fair-weather debunkers and extreme truther types.

Its a good starting point. Im curious what everyone believes on this.


Shit blew everywhere when the planes hit, not everything incinerated into ashes immediately.
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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2010, 09:11:41 PM »
Can any anti-truther/anti-ct'er explain how Satam al-Suqami (one of the hijackers) passport was found comepletely intact, outside wtc? The passport was inside the plain when it hit wtc.

I mean, if you believe the burning jetfuel brought down wtc you have to question why the passport was not incinerated in the building.

This is just one of many little head-scratchers that get over shadowed by the actual physics part of the event, which is what encompases the main debate between fair-weather debunkers and extreme truther types.

Its a good starting point. Im curious what everyone believes on this.


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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2010, 09:17:05 PM »
Can any anti-truther/anti-ct'er explain how Satam al-Suqami (one of the hijackers) passport was found comepletely intact, outside wtc? The passport was inside the plain when it hit wtc.

I mean, if you believe the burning jetfuel brought down wtc you have to question why the passport was not incinerated in the building.

This is just one of many little head-scratchers that get over shadowed by the actual physics part of the event, which is what encompases the main debate between fair-weather debunkers and extreme truther types.

Its a good starting point. Im curious what everyone believes on this.



don't know, but this is what wiki says about it:

Al-Suqami's passport was found by a passerby, reportedly in the vicinity of Vesey Street,[7] before the towers collapsed.[8] (This was mistakenly reported by many news outlets to be Mohammed Atta's passport.) A columnist for the British newspaper The Guardian expressed incredulity about the authenticity of this report,[9] questioning whether a paper passport could survive the inferno unsinged when the plane's black boxes were never found. According to testimony before the 9/11 Commission by lead counsel Susan Ginsburg, his passport had been "manipulated in a fraudulent manner in ways that have been associated with al Qaeda."[8] Passports belonging to Ziad Jarrah and Saeed al Ghamdi were found at the crash site of United Airlines flight #93 as well as an airphone.[10]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satam_al-Suqami

Passports recovered
According to testimony by Susan Ginsberg, a staff member of the National Commission on Terrorist attacks upon the United States, in the January 26, 2004 Public Hearing:
"Four of the hijackers passports have survived in whole or in part. Two were recovered from the crash site of United Airlines flight 93 in Pennsylvania. These are the passports of Ziad Jarrah and Saeed al Ghamdi. One belonged to a hijacker on American Airlines flight 11. This is the passport of Satam al Suqami. A passerby picked it up and gave it to a NYPD detective shortly before the World Trade Center towers collapsed. A fourth passport was recovered from luggage that did not make it from a Portland flight to Boston on to the connecting flight which was American Airlines flight 11. This is the passport of Abdul Aziz al Omari."
"In addition to these four, some digital copies of the hijackers passports were recovered in post-9/11 operations. Two of the passports that have survived, those of Satam al Suqami and Abdul Aziz al Omari, were clearly doctored. To avoid getting into classified detail, we will just state that these were manipulated in a fraudulent manner in ways that have been associated with al Qaeda. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PENTTBOM






Here's a site that talks all the passports found:
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a091201passportfound




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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #34 on: March 12, 2010, 09:44:18 PM »
After reading some recent posts in this thread I shall rephrase my previous statement.  AHEM..














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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2010, 09:44:47 PM »
"shit blew everywhere"

 :D

Anyway, heres said passport


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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2010, 09:46:09 PM »
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So because no building has ever fallen from a fire or a plane collision it makes what happen false?  

It should certainly cause a flag to raise..especially given how the buildings were built, with an already included safety factor of having MULTIPLE PLANES CRASH INTO IT. You need to get your facts together before speaking.

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Typical CT'er logic.  How many buildings have been slammed into buy a airliner full of fuel in the past?  

Typical idiots mindset in not knowing that engineers factor into every towering structure the possibility of a plane crashing into it as well as hurricane force winds blowing continuously against the structure. Those who design buildings are not idiots Ozmo...they take a lot into consideration.

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When did a JET crash into the Empire state building?  Samson, do you know the difference between a B-17 and a modern day airliner?  Do yo the difference in size, speed, and fuel?

Using the logic of the MSM, government and cynics like yourself they claimed the Empire State building was an old building built to lesser standards than the World Trade...that being, a jet crashing into the Empire State building should have brought it down in that time, yet it is still standing...the hole and damage repaired, with no noticeable effects. Oh an can you tell me how fast the jet was going, how much and what kind of fuel was in the plane at the time and what kind of explosion occurred upon impact? Don't assume shit Ozmo


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How hot exactly?

Given the fires were burning with black smoke (an indication of a suffocating fire) the temperatures were no higher than what can be achieved on a stove in your home.

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Do you know how hot these fires were burning?


Not hot at all as there are pictures of a white woman standing in the opening created where the plane crashing into the world trade just moments after it happened. The fact that she is standing there tells that the fire was cool...else she would have never been able to stand there or even survive.

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Were they burning as hot as JET FUEL Burns?

How hot does jet fuel burn Ozmo...and you do realize you have asked the same question three times


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It was severely damaged from debris and eventually collapsed.

That is what the media and the government told you...but what really happened? I would believe the now stifled physicist, engineers, scientist, professors all of whom said the events of the day are IMPOSSIBLE.
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True, wouldn't they have just left it laying around for everyone to inspect if there wasn't something they were hiding?

So you admit to suspicious activity and actions?

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Is this just as factual as your JET into the Empire state building claim?

WTF are you taking about?
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Sounds like the makings of a good movie.  Is Jesse Ventura and the makers of Loose Change next?

You're going off not only the deep end, but the stupid end. What are you babbling about? The researchers are FAR MORE INTELLIGENT THAN YOU WILL EVER BE, so I am inclined to accept their research over some screaming MEME like yourself who is operating on emotion as opposed to facts.

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Didn't look very neat to me, or to the clean up crews.  Do you expect it to fall like a tower made of wooden blocks in your parents living room?

You just made Hugo's opinion of you correct.

I expect a building to NOT fall down at all as they are engineered to NOT do so. And in some rare instances where a building collapses or falls over (as in Japan under strong earthquakes) I expect to see big chunks of concrete, office furniture, bodies, etc etc....NOT PULVERIZED DUST!!! And yeah a building falling over like a child's stacked blocks would be more believable.

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You mean like cranes and large dump trucks?  Yeah, cranes in NYC, NO WAY!

YES dumbass as even the construction workers and New York officials announced that they do not have such equipment as was used in teh clean up process. This special equipment was claimed to have come from Harrisburg Pennsylvania...problem is the equipment was in Jersey City the night before the collapse and no one was able to tell why the equipment was there.
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So the 2 WTC's 200 floors or offices of them 130 not in use?  Right.  Another JET into the Empire state building claim.  

You can research the information Ozmo an find out it is all true. you can also watch the many investigative videos where this information is documented. Then again why do that when you can bitch scream on a site like this all day as you do.


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This is probably one of the first times I've taken the time to read one of your cut and paste responses.  It was what i thought it was gonna be.   It was filled with poor logic, over zealous conjecture and fallacy.  You should probably try and stick to more tested sites to find you responses or at least read what you cut and paste first.

Well you are a LIAR there many times over as you have read my posts for quite some time and commented.....Is there a replacement mod coming to fill your space?? Please say yes...


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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2010, 09:49:36 PM »
LOL....meltdown much? Newsflash, people that spend less than 20 hours a week on this board DO have opinions and some of us our well educated. Ask those experts what happened the last time two large aircraft crashed into a large metropolitan cluster of buildings.......(wait for it)...Oh yeah, it had never happened before.

You conspiracy nuts amuse me. Glad u have a hobby.

Don't fool yourself with the believe of you being (eh hem) educated (haha)...let alone WELL EDUCATED. The dumbest people have no clue of how dumb they really are.

You still have not answered how a building falls when no plane hit it...
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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2010, 09:50:36 PM »
It should certainly cause a flag to raise..especially given how the buildings were built, with an already included safety factor of having MULTIPLE PLANES CRASH INTO IT. You need to get your facts together before speaking.

Typical idiots mindset in not knowing that engineers factor into every towering structure the possibility of a plane crashing into it as well as hurricane force winds blowing continuously against the structure. Those who design buildings are not idiots Ozmo...they take a lot into consideration.

Using the logic of the MSM, government and cynics like yourself they claimed the Empire State building was an old building built to lesser standards than the World Trade...that being, a jet crashing into the Empire State building should have brought it down in that time, yet it is still standing...the hole and damage repaired, with no noticeable effects. Oh an can you tell me how fast the jet was going, how much and what kind of fuel was in the plane at the time and what kind of explosion occurred upon impact? Don't assume shit Ozmo


Given the fires were burning with black smoke (an indication of a suffocating fire) the temperatures were no higher than what can be achieved on a stove in your home.
 

Not hot at all as there are pictures of a white woman standing in the opening created where the plane crashing into the world trade just moments after it happened. The fact that she is standing there tells that the fire was cool...else she would have never been able to stand there or even survive.

How hot does jet fuel burn Ozmo...and you do realize you have asked the same question three times


That is what the media and the government told you...but what really happened? I would believe the now stifled physicist, engineers, scientist, professors all of whom said the events of the day are IMPOSSIBLE.
So you admit to suspicious activity and actions?

WTF are you taking about?
You're going off not only the deep end, but the stupid end. What are you babbling about? The researchers are FAR MORE INTELLIGENT THAN YOU WILL EVER BE, so I am inclined to accept their research over some screaming MEME like yourself who is operating on emotion as opposed to facts.

You just made Hugo's opinion of you correct.

I expect a building to NOT fall down at all as they are engineered to NOT do so. And in some rare instances where a building collapses or falls over (as in Japan under strong earthquakes) I expect to see big chunks of concrete, office furniture, bodies, etc etc....NOT PULVERIZED DUST!!! And yeah a building falling over like a child's stacked blocks would be more believable.

YES dumbass as even the construction workers and New York officials announced that they do not have such equipment as was used in teh clean up process. This special equipment was claimed to have come from Harrisburg Pennsylvania...problem is the equipment was in Jersey City the night before the collapse and no one was able to tell why the equipment was there.
You can research the information Ozmo an find out it is all true. you can also watch the many investigative videos where this information is documented. Then again why do that when you can bitch scream on a site like this all day as you do.


Well you are a LIAR there many times over as you have read my posts for quite some time and commented.....Is there a replacement mod coming to fill your space?? Please say yes...




Jesus fucking christ..



Every time you post on here you embarrass morons everywhere.  You can't even cut and paste a simple post, what makes you think you know dick about world affairs?  



Please kill yourself.  Even slacker isn't this annoying.

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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #39 on: March 12, 2010, 09:52:16 PM »
Can any anti-truther/anti-ct'er explain how Satam al-Suqami (one of the hijackers) passport was found comepletely intact, outside wtc? The passport was inside the plain when it hit wtc.

I mean, if you believe the burning jetfuel brought down wtc you have to question why the passport was not incinerated in the building.

This is just one of many little head-scratchers that get over shadowed by the actual physics part of the event, which is what encompases the main debate between fair-weather debunkers and extreme truther types.

Its a good starting point. Im curious what everyone believes on this.



Better than that please explain how 9 of the nineteen supposed hijackers are STILL ALIVE!!!!!

These assholes that dismiss all of this evidence/facts/oddities makes me shake my head in disbelief...people just can not be this stupid.
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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #40 on: March 12, 2010, 09:58:30 PM »
don't know, but this is what wiki says about it:

Al-Suqami's passport was found by a passerby, reportedly in the vicinity of Vesey Street,[7] before the towers collapsed.[8] (This was mistakenly reported by many news outlets to be Mohammed Atta's passport.) A columnist for the British newspaper The Guardian expressed incredulity about the authenticity of this report,[9] questioning whether a paper passport could survive the inferno unsinged when the plane's black boxes were never found. According to testimony before the 9/11 Commission by lead counsel Susan Ginsburg, his passport had been "manipulated in a fraudulent manner in ways that have been associated with al Qaeda."[8] Passports belonging to Ziad Jarrah and Saeed al Ghamdi were found at the crash site of United Airlines flight #93 as well as an airphone.[10]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satam_al-Suqami

Passports recovered
According to testimony by Susan Ginsberg, a staff member of the National Commission on Terrorist attacks upon the United States, in the January 26, 2004 Public Hearing:
"Four of the hijackers passports have survived in whole or in part. Two were recovered from the crash site of United Airlines flight 93 in Pennsylvania. These are the passports of Ziad Jarrah and Saeed al Ghamdi. One belonged to a hijacker on American Airlines flight 11. This is the passport of Satam al Suqami. A passerby picked it up and gave it to a NYPD detective shortly before the World Trade Center towers collapsed. A fourth passport was recovered from luggage that did not make it from a Portland flight to Boston on to the connecting flight which was American Airlines flight 11. This is the passport of Abdul Aziz al Omari."
"In addition to these four, some digital copies of the hijackers passports were recovered in post-9/11 operations. Two of the passports that have survived, those of Satam al Suqami and Abdul Aziz al Omari, were clearly doctored. To avoid getting into classified detail, we will just state that these were manipulated in a fraudulent manner in ways that have been associated with al Qaeda. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PENTTBOM






Here's a site that talks all the passports found:
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a091201passportfound





And you question what i say????????

A passerby happens to look over and sees a passport amongst the tons and tons and tons of debris on the ground...lets not even take into  consideration the panicked people running everywhere? the chaos in teh area? or the fact that no one would have known one piece of paper from another since it was all covered with endless amounts of grey ash. Someone just HAPPENS to notice a passport that magically survived a plane crash, survived the inferno, survived falling from the building and happens to land at the foot of a dead beat cop (this was the first story reported) who equated it with terrorist and not a person whomay have been amongst the thousands running for their lives during the collapse....hahahaahaha. ..you laughable Ozmo.
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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #41 on: March 12, 2010, 10:01:24 PM »
After reading some recent posts in this thread I shall rephrase my previous statement.  AHEM..














9/11 TRUTHERS ARE DUMBER THAN DIRT COVERED SHIT.

















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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #42 on: March 12, 2010, 10:03:24 PM »
Shit blew everywhere when the planes hit, not everything incinerated into ashes immediately.

Like your brains when you mother dropped you on your head as a baby......
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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #43 on: March 12, 2010, 10:06:08 PM »


I feel so dirty when you and I are in partial agreement on something.   :-\
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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #44 on: March 12, 2010, 10:09:45 PM »
And how many architects and engineers are there in the world?

Do they all agree on everything?

If there are 3 million architects and engineers in the world (and you know there's much more than that) and 1000 of them question it then what percentage does that "1000" represent?

I'll give you a hint:

it's less than .4%

So frankly the "1000" of them doesn't mean much.  I'd bet you'd find the same or similar percentage in that of architects and engineers that believe in other stupid shit too.

The falling too fast theory is a new one, but I'd bet it falls short.

Is the "Pyroclastic flow" theory next?   :)



Ozmo I know you know better?

What a dumb argument, Galileo was one man out of thousands of other astronomers claiming we weren't the center of the Universe.  That didn't make his argument any less valid.
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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #45 on: March 12, 2010, 10:12:10 PM »
Can any anti-truther/anti-ct'er explain how Satam al-Suqami (one of the hijackers) passport was found comepletely intact, outside wtc? The passport was inside the plain when it hit wtc.

I mean, if you believe the burning jetfuel brought down wtc you have to question why the passport was not incinerated in the building.

This is just one of many little head-scratchers that get over shadowed by the actual physics part of the event, which is what encompases the main debate between fair-weather debunkers and extreme truther types.

Its a good starting point. Im curious what everyone believes on this.



Exactly, some of this stuff is borderline hilarious.  Mr. al-Suqami was completely incinerated, yet his paper passport survived the massive jet fuel explosion...
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« Reply #46 on: March 12, 2010, 10:14:24 PM »
It should certainly cause a flag to raise..especially given how the buildings were built, with an already included safety factor of having MULTIPLE PLANES CRASH INTO IT. You need to get your facts together before speaking.

You mean like the fact of a "jet crashing into the empire State building"?   ::)

Additionally, the WTC's weren't built with a safety factor of crashing multiple planes into it.  NOW YOU ARE JUST MAKING SHIT UP.


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Typical idiots mindset in not knowing that engineers factor into every towering structure the possibility of a plane crashing into it as well as hurricane force winds blowing continuously against the structure. Those who design buildings are not idiots Ozmo...they take a lot into consideration.

HAHAHAHAAH  more stuff you are making up.  

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Using the logic of the MSM, government and cynics like yourself they claimed the Empire State building was an old building built to lesser standards than the World Trade...that being, a jet crashing into the Empire State building should have brought it down in that time, yet it is still standing...the hole and damage repaired, with no noticeable effects. Oh an can you tell me how fast the jet was going, how much and what kind of fuel was in the plane at the time and what kind of explosion occurred upon impact? Don't assume shit Ozmo

Again, YOU STATED A JET CRASH INTO THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING.  It didn't happen.  Is this your attempt to spin your statement?


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Given the fires were burning with black smoke (an indication of a suffocating fire) the temperatures were no higher than what can be achieved on a stove in your home.

ROTFLMAO.....   Black smoke isn't an indication of a suffocating fire.  HAHAHAHAH  making more shit up!
 

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Not hot at all as there are pictures of a white woman standing in the opening created where the plane crashing into the world trade just moments after it happened. The fact that she is standing there tells that the fire was cool...else she would have never been able to stand there or even survive.

YEah, was she right next to the fire?  lol

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How hot does jet fuel burn Ozmo...and you do realize you have asked the same question three times

You tell me.  lol.  In fact, just make a number up.  That's what you do.

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That is what the media and the government told you...but what really happened? I would believe the now stifled physicist, engineers, scientist, professors all of whom said the events of the day are IMPOSSIBLE.
So you admit to suspicious activity and actions?

No, less than .4% of the engineers in the world.  the rest who live on earth don't.......lolo

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WTF are you taking about?
You're going off not only the deep end, but the stupid end. What are you babbling about? The researchers are FAR MORE INTELLIGENT THAN YOU WILL EVER BE, so I am inclined to accept their research over some screaming MEME like yourself who is operating on emotion as opposed to facts.

Like the same research that caused you to come to the conclusion that a JET crashed into the Empire State building?

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You just made Hugo's opinion of you correct.

I expect a building to NOT fall down at all as they are engineered to NOT do so. And in some rare instances where a building collapses or falls over (as in Japan under strong earthquakes) I expect to see big chunks of concrete, office furniture, bodies, etc etc....NOT PULVERIZED DUST!!! And yeah a building falling over like a child's stacked blocks would be more believable.

How many 100 story buildings have you seen collapse after airlliners crashed into them?  BTW  there were loads of large chunks of debris.  Go back and look at the photos.

PS  I don't care what you think or anyone else thinks for that matter.  I'm only exposing your crap for what it is, Crap.    

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YES dumbass as even the construction workers and New York officials announced that they do not have such equipment as was used in teh clean up process. This special equipment was claimed to have come from Harrisburg Pennsylvania...problem is the equipment was in Jersey City the night before the collapse and no one was able to tell why the equipment was there.
You can research the information Ozmo an find out it is all true. you can also watch the many investigative videos where this information is documented. Then again why do that when you can bitch scream on a site like this all day as you do.

Considering you are batting ZERO and have made the stupidest claims EVER, i need to do nothing.

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Well you are a LIAR there many times over as you have read my posts for quite some time and commented.....Is there a replacement mod coming to fill your space?? Please say yes...

Not really,  Most of the time i just skimmed over them because they were probably going to be like these.  And I was right.

No need to get all worked up Samson.   :)

But really, of all the "debates" I've had with people on here about 9/11 and there have been hundreds, yours has been the most baseless and made up.

I expected more from you.  You seem to be really up on stuff.  But like i said, you should read your cut and pastes first.  Or find a better site.




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« Reply #47 on: March 12, 2010, 10:15:47 PM »
This coming from someone living in the heart of the Baltimore ghetto

Samson123.....You are definitely a gimmick of a board regular.  "Hi" whoever you are.   :)

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« Reply #48 on: March 12, 2010, 10:17:02 PM »
How many of these "engineers" were domestic engineers?
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lol.  What qualifications do you need to call yourself an "engineer"? 

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« Reply #49 on: March 12, 2010, 10:17:37 PM »
If I had the money and the inclination, I could find 1000 Chimpanzees to sign that Eyeball Chambers had molested them....

Hahahaha!  I like this guy.   :D