Does fat make you fat?

[EL Mariachi]

Animal fat does not make you fat. That sounds like hippy vegan bullshit. It's paramount if you want to be a big strong man and not a sobbing, disheveled vagina. Trans fat it something to stay away from. Fats in any processed food basically, but animal fat, no. Eat it in moderate amounts. It's just like dietary cholesterol, you need it to purge it and to operate properly. Extremely important for hormone development.

Don't listen to the twiggy pussies, Wiggs. Eat an array of fats, primarily healthy fats but don't shun animal fats unless it's in a huge abundance. Most people don't get enough "good" fat in their diet. Try upping while you tighten your diet and watch the BODYFAT fall off.

what he sayin, cook your chicken on oliveoil

[EL Mariachi]

This was the result of a high protein, high fat and very low carb diet. When I say high fat I mean anything and everything that didn't have carbs in it.




We were doing "Atkins" before it was even a fad.

on the outside it looks healty, but those atkins with lots of fats makes your blood fat and thick

[Eyeball Chambers]

This was the result of a high protein, high fat and very low carb diet. When I say high fat I mean anything and everything that didn't have carbs in it.




We were doing "Atkins" before it was even a fad.

How did you morph from that hansom man (no homo) to an illegal immigrant with stunted growth in only 15 years or so?  I'm calling bullshit...

 

[James Blunt]

One of my rules to always go by is to not eat anything with high fructose corn syrup. The shit is evil.

[ManBearPig...]

due to heavy pimpage by the blockhead, i've been doing the palumbo diet the last 5 weeks.

i went from 231 to 210.  weigh in tomorrow, might update.

no eca, no cardio , just lifting and diet.

[wavelength]

There is absolutely no scientific evidence that keto or low carb diets provide any significant advantage over any other high protein diet.

[TrueGrit]

This was the result of a high protein, high fat and very low carb diet. When I say high fat I mean anything and everything that didn't have carbs in it.




We were doing "Atkins" before it was even a fad.

Awesome physique Joe. I take it you counted cals though?

[YoungBlood]

i don't think so, it's carbs

i always laugh when i see people buying "low fat" potato chips, the carbs are still the same

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Or in many cases, the carbs are actually HIGHER, because with no fat, they have to boost the carbs to make sure the stuff still tastes decent. Milk is a great example of this.

Personally, I think it's all about calories. However, I prefer to keep carbs low because I think in the long run, not only do I feel better but I also think I look better and perform better too.

And you can eat fat with less repercussions than if you have carbs. At least in my experience.

[Coach is Back!]

Awesome physique Joe. I take it you counted cals though?

No, not at all.

[Coach is Back!]

How did you morph from that hansom man (no homo) to an illegal immigrant with stunted growth in only 15 years or so?  I'm calling bullshit...

 

LOL..If I'm illegal I came from Italy. BTW, I'm still pretty.

[TrueGrit]

No, not at all.

Cool. Did you try to exercise any restraint or was it just protein and fat whenever you wanted, did you ever deliberately overeat?

Seriously man, your physique was awesome there.

[Wiggs]

Thanks Coach yours is the look I'm going for...no more perma bulker

[TrueGrit]

wiggs, more fat equals less fat burning. your very true in the first one. and why? yoru also correct its because it has calories.  

sugar, and all carbohydrates(besides fructose) cause increase in blood glucose, which causes the pancrease to release insulin, insulin is a storeage/growth hormone that lowers blood glucose back to normal levels after eating carbohydrates.  insulin, while active, turns off fat burning, and if there isnt enough room in muscle tissue for the total glucose that youve eaten, then insulin can push some glucose into fat as well.

now, insulin rarely ever causes fat gain unless its accompanied by moderate or high fat intake.  this is because fat can not be stored any where in any for, except for as fat.  when the only available energy is glucose, insulin does not make one fat, eating a surplus of calories does.

now, with that being said...it may appear that fat and carbs woudl then be interchangeable... but its not the case, with fat being easier to digest and requiring less energy for the digestion process, and with fat having a very low "burn off" effect when over eaten, and with the fact that fat is stored very easily as body fat for a plethora of reasons...namely:it ALREADY is fat..(no conversion necessary)

carbs are far superior to fat...regardless wether trying to get big or get lean...   eat adequate protein, essential fats, and then fill in the rest of calorie intake with as much glucose as possible.

Interesting post, candi. However, I'm damn sure you attributed your hugely impressive weightloss to a high protein, high fat and low carb diet 

For a long time you were a bit of an anti-carb..

[pellius]

How did you morph from that hansom man (no homo) to an illegal immigrant with stunted growth in only 15 years or so?  I'm calling bullshit...

 

Seems to be in fantastic shape to me.

[Coach is Back!]

Cool. Did you try to exercise any restraint or was it just protein and fat whenever you wanted, did you ever deliberately overeat?

Seriously man, your physique was awesome there.

Thanks, It was basically protein when ever I wanted whether there was fat in it or not. It made going out to eat REAL easy however I was getting real irritable after a few weeks until my cheat days. I used to love breakfast with whole eggs or a cheese omlette, bacon or ham or whatever would satisfy me. But almost no matter how much I ate I was always hungary. That pic was taken 26 years ago when I just turned 21. obviously since then nutrition has developed to more of a science and not as dangerous. We used to do some crazy shit back then.

[Montague]

This was the result of a high protein, high fat and very low carb diet. When I say high fat I mean anything and everything that didn't have carbs in it.

We were doing "Atkins" before it was even a fad.

Coach,
That’s awesome, man.
I never knew you did the bb thing years back.

When you said, “We were doing Atkins…” who/where did you learn from & train with?

What other types of principles did you follow?

[Coach is Back!]

Coach,
That’s awesome, man.
I never knew you did the bb thing years back.

When you said, “We were doing Atkins…” who/where did you learn from & train with?

What other types of principles did you follow?

I started bodybuilding when I was 12, my mentor was Bill Pearl, trained with him for about 4 years and along side some greats like Dave Johns, Dave Shaw (powerlifter) Mohammed Makkway, Clint Beryerly, CF Smith (crazy f**k) Ed Corney, Dickerson and alot more. After that I started training in San Gabriel, Whittier and East LA where I started training with Rory Liedelmyer, Jon Aranita and Bob Paris (were still all friends and keep in contact with one another). I could literally write a book about my life in and around bodybuilding in the past 35 years. And the best part there were no regrets.

[Wiggs]

How does the body lose fat?

By just calorie restriction?  Being in ketosis? Both?

[che]

This was the result of a high protein, high fat and very low carb diet. When I say high fat I mean anything and everything that didn't have carbs in it.




We were doing "Atkins" before it was even a fad.

Classic physique  better than 90% of modern bodybuilders.

[Coach is Back!]

[tbombz]

Interesting post, candi. However, I'm damn sure you attributed your hugely impressive weightloss to a high protein, high fat and low carb diet 

For a long time you were a bit of an anti-carb..

true, i dieted one no carbs for about 3 years. first year took off all the weight, next two i was just scared id get fat again. at one point i wasnt eating fats either... just egg whites, chicken breasts, tuna, and lots of raw, fresh vegetables.


nowdays i eat high carbs moderate protein and the only fats i ever eat are trace fats in lean meats and carbs, and fish oils. although i do have junk food all the time.. but when i eat that im not eating it for its nutrition just its taste..usually cuz im bored and have the munchies.. lol

[CT_Muscle]

I started bodybuilding when I was 12, my mentor was Bill Pearl, trained with him for about 4 years and along side some greats like Dave Johns, Dave Shaw (powerlifter) Mohammed Makkway, Clint Beryerly, CF Smith (crazy f**k) Ed Corney, Dickerson and alot more. After that I started training in San Gabriel, Whittier and East LA where I started training with Rory Liedelmyer, Jon Aranita and Bob Paris (were still all friends and keep in contact with one another). I could literally write a book about my life in and around bodybuilding in the past 35 years. And the best part there were no regrets.

you trained with Bill Pearl? this is getbig so I feel obligated to ask.........pics?......or it didn't happen

[Coach is Back!]

you trained with Bill Pearl? this is getbig so I feel obligated to ask.........pics?......or it didn't happen

LOL....It was the late 70's, I was a teenager at the time, do you really think I had the sense to take pictures back then?

[Montague]

I started bodybuilding when I was 12, my mentor was Bill Pearl, trained with him for about 4 years and along side some greats like Dave Johns, Dave Shaw (powerlifter) Mohammed Makkway, Clint Beryerly, CF Smith (crazy f**k) Ed Corney, Dickerson and alot more. After that I started training in San Gabriel, Whittier and East LA where I started training with Rory Liedelmyer, Jon Aranita and Bob Paris (were still all friends and keep in contact with one another). I could literally write a book about my life in and around bodybuilding in the past 35 years. And the best part there were no regrets.

Holy shit - you trained with Pearl?
How the hell did you swing that?

I’ve read that Pearl was a vegetarian.
Since you were around the man for four years, what was his diet like, then?

And yes, you should smack yourself with a 45 for not taking pictures with those guys!
 

[clued-up]

Its all genetic. I stuff myself with the worst foods.. day in and day out. I’m not an obese person. I can lose fat easily if I bothered to try without keeping track of calories at all. Some people cant get fat if they had to. The opposite is also true.. some people will be fighting their genetics forever.. they will never be able to get or stay lean without killing themselves… constantly. They will be heavy and smooth no matter how many calories they take in. They will simply hold fat.. These people will have to diet for the rest of their lives.. just to look decent.. if they ever get to that point.