Post Workout Nutrition is Extremely Important for Muscle Growth

[Flexb]

that's pretty much what I do also. It's not very realistic in this day and age of eating 6-7 actual meals a day. 2-3 are shakes to cut down on time when you take working 9 hours a day into consideration. It worked for me and enabled me to hold a natural 235 pounds at 5'9 and lean (approx 10-12% BF) in my 20's.

[Devon97]

that's pretty much what I do also. It's not very realistic in this day and age of eating 6-7 actual meals a day. 2-3 are shakes to cut down on time when you take working 9 hours a day into consideration. It worked for me and enabled me to hold a natural 235 pounds at 5'9 and lean (approx 10-12% BF) in my 20's.

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[Stavios]

protein ingestion post workout makes sense on the surface... but even whey protein, the fastest of all proteins to digest...still takes about an hour before any of it reaches the blood, and even then its not an "all at once" dumping of the aminos...but a slow gradually increasing process that spans several hours.


if protein intake is suffficient on a daily basis, then theres no need to "time" protein intake around workouts.


carbohydrate ingestion before, during, and after workouts does make sense... glucose can reach the blood within minutes and start taking action, mainly increased insulin and vasodialation

exactly !!!!!

[Flexb]

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On juice I was as high as 257, same BF. Yes, I was a machine, and young 

[KevinP85]

Geez, I hardly ever followed any of that stuff and I think I turned out alright. I do eat clean at times when it counts, but for the most part, I just enjoy life man. Don't know how you guys eat clean year round. That's boring!! Live life a little, you are going to die one day

[Flexb]

Geez, I hardly ever followed any of that stuff and I think I turned out alright. I do eat clean at times when it counts, but for the most part, I just enjoy life man. Don't know how you guys eat clean year round. That's boring!! Live life a little, you are going to die one day

I used to be like that, and although I looked better because of it, I learned that life's too short to be that strict too often. For instance, I'm eating some chips tonight, after eating most of my healthy meals today 

[KevinP85]

I used to be like that, and although I looked better because of it, I learned that life's too short to be that strict too often. For instance, I'm eating some chips tonight, after eating most of my healthy meals today  

Exactly!! Don't get me wrong, I've done the dieting for shows and it sucks big time especially seeing all your friends drinking, partying, and eating junk. It's sooo tempting!!! Now I'm just enjoying food and the girlfriends cooking I'm lucky to have a fast metabolism and staying lean isn't too hard for me.

I'm going to have me some cookies and chocolate cake tonight!!!

[PJim]

that's pretty much what I do also. It's not very realistic in this day and age of eating 6-7 actual meals a day. 2-3 are shakes to cut down on time when you take working 9 hours a day into consideration. It worked for me and enabled me to hold a natural 235 pounds at 5'9 and lean (approx 10-12% BF) in my 20's.

So you were bigger naturally than Samir Bannout in his prime competing at the high 180s low 190s at 3-4 percent?

[wavelength]

just eat and lift, overcomplicating leads to failure

[Flexb]

So you were bigger naturally than Samir Bannout in his prime competing at the high 180s low 190s at 3-4 percent?

Samir is shorter than me and had better maturity and denser muscle. I've competed and competed very successfully and wasn't too far from Pro at one time. Contest weights were 195-201, but that was coming down from the low 240's. When I got to 257 I had stopped competing but did diet down to a shredded 215 one summer with thoughts of doing another show, but decided not to. These days I'm weighing 215-220 and was up to 230 last summer. I've done only one cycle in 2 years and that was just Anavar by itself. The reason for the lighter bodyweight is low test levels (which the doc has got me on mild juice recently to help this), not eating as well as I should be overall and not training balls-to-the-walls like I used to.

[Fatpanda]

exactly !!!!!

protein alone stimulates insulin more than enough to stimulate vasodilation and decrease protein breakdown  

carbs are not needed - fact.

[Stavios]

protein alone stimulates insulin more than enough to stimulate vasodilation and decrease protein breakdown  

carbs are not needed - fact.

Hot dogs are the fastest way to a pro physique 

[GigantorX]

Wow.

This gimmick really struck a nerve with the GetBig board at large. A few posts, some shit thrown in and everyone is up in arms.

[Fatpanda]

Hot dogs are the fastest way to a pro physique 

so your girlfriend tells me.

[Stavios]

so your girlfriend tells me.

Bullshit, my GF is more than enough satisfied with my cocktail saussage 

[Fatpanda]

Bullshit, my GF is more than enough satisfied with my cocktail saussage 

mine too !
 

[MCWAY]

awful nutrition plan...too many shakes

Three solid meals and three liquid ones, with an optional meal at the end.

What's wrong with that, especially if you're in a working scenario as described?

[tbombz]

i disagree - protein around the workout is more important that carbs - studies show this conclusively.

were those studies looking at the effects of protein supplementation around the workout in individuals who were already eating sufficient protein? 

[The Showstoppa]

mine too !
 

Your girlfriend is satisfied with Stavios cocktail sausage, too?

[rccs]

I drink 500ml of chocolate milk immiadiately after working out and it works very well to me.
PS I don't buy protein powders, they aren't needed if you eat well during the day

[MCWAY]

I drink 500ml of chocolate milk immiadiately after working out and it works very well to me.
PS I don't buy protein powders, they aren't needed if you eat well during the day

That's basically all that protein powders are: Super-concentrated forms of chocolate (or vanilla, or strawberry, or whatever flavor you can get) milk.

As long as I can get them cheap (i.e. on clearance sales at GNC or Vitamin Shoppe), I'll keep using them.

[Fatpanda]

were those studies looking at the effects of protein supplementation around the workout in individuals who were already eating sufficient protein? 

yes 

http://www.sportsnutritionsociety.org/conference_presentations/ISSNConference_200606_Cribb.pdf

[tbombz]

yes 

http://www.sportsnutritionsociety.org/conference_presentations/ISSNConference_200606_Cribb.pdf

read it again... i fear your slipping.. 

[SF1900]

That's basically all that protein powders are: Super-concentrated forms of chocolate (or vanilla, or strawberry, or whatever flavor you can get) milk.

As long as I can get them cheap (i.e. on clearance sales at GNC or Vitamin Shoppe), I'll keep using them.

Go to price club/costco for good sales on protein. EAS, 3 pound bag is 30 bucks. You get 78 servings, and each one contains 30 grams of protein.

[Fatpanda]

read it again... i fear your slipping..  

i think you are mistaken  

study 3 - trained subjects were instructed to maintain normal daily diet for duration of the study - then only take the supplement either pre/post workout or morn/eve depending on the group.

guess what - the pre/post gained lots more strength and mass, and burned more bodyfat than the morn/eve despite calories being equal between the groups for the day  

yes read that again  

 the pre/post gained lots more strength and mass, and burned more bodyfat than the morn/eve despite calories being equal between the groups for the day  

all while maintaining their normal daily diet.