For everyone on the Politics Board - Where did Mons and Blacken go?

[MCWAY]

Has anyone considered that guys like Blacken are leaving because this place has become a right-winger circle jerk...?

I'm all for debate, but you guys are simply immune to facts.


Just read the "Drop out of your federal healthcare" thread.

They did!!!! And, once they clean off their monitors and peeled themselves off the floor (after reading your interesting takes), they pressed on smartly.

Every single fact and figure I posted in that thread was simply dismissed... my basic mathematical extrapolations were never questioned; my quoted figures were never contested; in fact no ERROR in my argument was ever cited... just circular rationalising, with dismissal itself cited as evidence for dismissal.

In what BIZARRO universe are you living?

Skip ripped your figures apart, piece by piece. And all you did was re-hash the same rubbish.

Simply put guys, no one wants to debate with people who don't understand the facts AND are unwilling to accept facts.

We understand the facts, which is why dismembering your claims and those of the aforementioned MIA personnel takes so little effort.

I spent a dozen pages trying to explain that the $3k per person that the French pay for healthcare is LESS than the $7k per person Americans pay... to no avail. That doesn't persuade me to engage in another healthcare debate with you guys... if you simply didn't understand I wouldn't mind explaining these things... but you guys simply don't want to understand.

I come to this board for entertainment and debate... I'm not interested in hammering facts into petulant children who refuse to accept facts. That's no fun.

Seems Blacken and the other quality contributors feel the same way... so congrats Palin-voting-Glenn-Beck-watchers, you've killed this board.


The Luke

PLEASE!!! You make some bone-brained claim. One of the other posters takes you to the woodshed. You disapper for a spell, then return with some more foolishness, followed by a subsequent trip to the woodshed, and brief hiatus.

Repeat ad nauseum.

[Soul Crusher]

Blacken & Mons never debated anything whatsoever and other than KC & Straw, the leftises simply cant debate a topic.  

One morons posts stupid DU videos and hides.

The other is a fake soldier who talked about giving facials to Palins' baby.  

You attempt to debate, but often grossly distort facts and figures.  Skip has destroyed you royally in almost every debate you had with him and I can understand your reluctance to engage him in a debate anymore.    

BTW, did it ever dawn on you that the typical BB demographic is probably a south park conservative to begin with?  

  

[The Luke]

Exhibit A:

They did!!!! And, once they clean off their monitors and peeled themselves off the floor (after reading your interesting takes), they pressed on smartly.
In what BIZARRO universe are you living?
Skip ripped your figures apart, piece by piece. And all you did was re-hash the same rubbish.
We understand the facts, which is why dismembering your claims and those of the aforementioned MIA personnel takes so little effort.
PLEASE!!! You make some bone-brained claim. One of the other posters takes you to the woodshed. You disapper for a spell, then return with some more foolishness, followed by a subsequent trip to the woodshed, and brief hiatus.
Repeat ad nauseum.

Exhibit B:

Blacken & Mons never debated anything whatsoever and other than KC & Straw, the leftises simply cant debate a topic. 
One morons posts stupid DU videos and hides.
The other is a fake soldier who talked about giving facials to Palins' baby. 
You attempt to debate, but often grossly distort facts and figures.  Skip has destroyed you royally in almost every debate you had with him and I can understand your reluctance to engage him in a debate anymore.     
BTW, did it ever dawn on you that the typical BB demographic is probably a south park conservative to begin with? 

Blanket assertions; blanket dismissals; blanket character attack; and ad hominem attacks.

Not one single attempt to address the issue I raised.

Why would anyone want to debate with these people...? They don't even know they don't know... and they like it that way.


The Luke

[Soul Crusher]

Exhibit A:
Exhibit B:
Blanket assertions; blanket dismissals; blanket character attack; and ad hominem attacks.

Not one single attempt to address the issue I raised.

Why would anyone want to debate with these people...? They don't even know they don't know... and they like it that way.


The Luke

Luke - I utterly embarassed you once or twice before and will gladly do it again. 

Skip owns you so badly its not even funny.  We just figured you accepted your humliating defeats and took off with some dignity.  I guess we were wrong.

As for Blacken andMons:

One is a serial plagerizer and the other wants to give facials to babies.  Enough said.   

[MCWAY]

Exhibit A:
Exhibit B:
Blanket assertions; blanket dismissals; blanket character attack; and ad hominem attacks.

Not one single attempt to address the issue I raised.

Why would anyone want to debate with these people...? They don't even know they don't know... and they like it that way.


The Luke

I addressed your claims (as did Skip) on that other thread. And, as stated earlier, you make your usual rounds in the woodshed. This isn't about healthcare. If you want to get beat up some more about that, bump the old thread.

[The Luke]

Luke - I utterly embarassed you once or twice before and will gladly do it again. 

Skip owns you so badly its not even funny.  We just figured you accepted your humliating defeats and took off with some dignity.  I guess we were wrong.

As for Blacken andMons:

One is a serial plagerizer and the other wants to give facials to babies.  Enough said.   

Assertions of "ownings" followed by denigration of character and accusations of paedophilia.... (sigh)

Wow, I wonder why no one wants to debate on this board...?

Funny, I remember you guys chiming in to threads I was posting in and simply ASSERTING you were right without any evidence or counter-argument... does that count as me being "owned"? Does your current reference to such unsupported ASSERTIONS now qualify as evidence of the validity of such assertions?

Funny, I've also noticed the only claims of plagiarism and paedophilia being ASSERTED by you and Skip.


Is this another case of you guys simply ASSERTING something as true in one thread, then quoting that assertion as proof of itself in another thread...?

Can I do that too?
Can I simply ASSERT that you guys are morons and cite this ASSERTION as proof of such...?


Do you even understand my argument here? Or will you simply provide another EXAMPLE of what I'm complaining about as rebuttal?


The Luke

[Soul Crusher]

Assertions of "ownings" followed by denigration of character and accusations of paedophilia.... (sigh)

Wow, I wonder why no one wants to debate on this board...?

Funny, I remember you guys chiming in to threads I was posting in and simply ASSERTING you were right without any evidence or counter-argument... does that count as me being "owned"? Does your current reference to such unsupported ASSERTIONS now qualify as evidence of the validity of such assertions?

Funny, I've also noticed the only claims of plagiarism and paedophilia being ASSERTED by you and Skip.


Is this another case of you guys simply ASSERTING something as true in one thread, then quoting that assertion as proof of itself in another thread...?

Can I do that too?
Can I simply ASSERT that you guys are morons and cite this ASSERTION as proof of such...?


Do you even understand my argument here? Or will you simply provide another EXAMPLE of what I'm complaining about as rebuttal?


The Luke

James outed Blacken as a serial plagerizer on at three occasions.  Mons said he wants to give Palins' baby a facial. 

Look it up. 

And cry me a river BTW - its St. Patty's day, shouldnt you be drunk already?

[The Luke]

And cry me a river BTW - its St. Patty's day, shouldnt you be drunk already?

...thought about it and figured I might have a point? Eh?

(Goes to get drunk)


The Luke

[Mons Venus]

Has anyone considered that guys like Blacken are leaving because this place has become a right-winger circle jerk...?


Seems Blacken and the other quality contributors feel the same way... so congrats Palin-voting-Glenn-Beck-watchers, you've killed this board.

The Luke

Amen. This place is nothing more than a huge circle jerk for Racists and NeoCons.

[Soul Crusher]

Amen. This place is nothing more than a huge circle jerk for Racists and NeoCons.

And people who want to give facials to babies.   

[OzmO]

And people who want to give facials to babies.   

Did he really say that? 

[The Luke]

Did he really say that? 

...Skip and 333386 distort so many of their so-called quotes that I find it hard to believe.


The Luke

[Soul Crusher]

Did he really say that? 

Ask Hugo.  Hugo banned him for 30 days for saying that he wanted to give a facial to Palin's baby. 

I'm not making that up. 

[The Luke]

Ask Hugo.  Hugo banned him for 30 days for saying that he wanted to give a facial to Palin's baby. 

I'm not making that up. 

...quote please.


The Luke

[OzmO]

Ask Hugo.  Hugo banned him for 30 days for saying that he wanted to give a facial to Palin's baby. 

I'm not making that up. 

I know you are not making stuff up.  You are not one to do that.  I was hoping you had the quotes.  I kind of remember it.

[Soul Crusher]

I know you are not making stuff up.  You are not one to do that.  I was hoping you had the quotes.  I kind of remember it.

Ask Hugo - he may heve delted those vile posts. 

I am what I am and make no apologies for it, but I dont lie. 

[Mons Venus]

I am what I am and make no apologies for it, but I dont lie.  

What's worse is 3333's was CAUGHT deleting his RACIST post and denied it!
 
Lying racist neocon scummbag.

If you want to talk about the policies she supports which disgust you, fine.  Look, you know I am disgusted with Obama, but is it about the fact that he is black or some other type of stupid reason? Maybe sometimes.    

WTF 3333, you did post it and delete it  Straw quoted you so you're busted and busted trying to cover it up!
 
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=306155.msg4388791#msg4388791

3333, please address this:  You're not going to get banned for it.  Hell, BF and his cohorts took over the board one day demanding their rights to degrade and belittle blacks whenever they want.
 
you made it about Obama's race, not Rev. Wright.  You can't change that fact now, nice try.  
 
"Look, you know I am disgusted with Obama, but is it about the fact that he is black or some other type of stupid reason? Maybe sometimes.  "--3333

YES OR NO?  Did you or did you not admit that some of your issues with Obama are racial?

Cry me a river.  Fine, Im a racist.  

Lying Racist NeoCon POS.

[Soul Crusher]

Oh please - post the whole thread fool.  We already went over this. 

BTW - do you deny saying you wanted to facialize Palins' baby? 

[Mons Venus]

I am what I am and make no apologies for it, but I dont lie.  

WTF 3333, you did post it and delete it  Straw quoted you so you're busted and busted trying to cover it up!
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=306155.msg4388791#msg4388791

NeoCon, Racist liar gets caught.

[Soul Crusher]

NeoCon, Racist liar gets caught.

I never deleted anything.  Again - did you say you wanted to faciailize palins' baby?   

[Skip8282]

Assertions of "ownings" followed by denigration of character and accusations of paedophilia.... (sigh)

Wow, I wonder why no one wants to debate on this board...?

Funny, I remember you guys chiming in to threads I was posting in and simply ASSERTING you were right without any evidence or counter-argument... does that count as me being "owned"? Does your current reference to such unsupported ASSERTIONS now qualify as evidence of the validity of such assertions?

Funny, I've also noticed the only claims of plagiarism and paedophilia being ASSERTED by you and Skip.


Is this another case of you guys simply ASSERTING something as true in one thread, then quoting that assertion as proof of itself in another thread...?

Can I do that too?
Can I simply ASSERT that you guys are morons and cite this ASSERTION as proof of such...?


Do you even understand my argument here? Or will you simply provide another EXAMPLE of what I'm complaining about as rebuttal?


The Luke

First, Mons did say that.  I filed a complaint on the complaints board, but Hugo deleted it and banned Mons so I erased the complaint and requested Ron delete the thread.  Hugo did mention this on the complaints board but has since erased that post.  I did, however respond back in February:  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=308493.25


Secondly, you don't post facts Luke.  You post unfounded claims.  I specifically requested where you were getting your numbers from and you balked.  In fact, it was only after I mentioned the OECD report by name that you "suddenly" claimed to have read the report.


Third, drop the cry-baby shit about ad-hom attacks given your the biggest perpetrator around.  Anytime someone disagrees with you, you resort to calling them stupid or morons.  If you can't take it, don't dish it out.


You don't reference studies.  You don't reference sites.  You don't reference policies.  You don't reference shit (unless I give it to you).  Your claims are not facts.

As for Blacken, he was not a quality poster or debater.  He'd drop a YouTube video in and anybody who disagreed with him would get some other stupid YouTube vid (usually a crying baby or the stand up and be counted one).

[Skip8282]

NeoCon, Racist liar gets caught.

Coming from a fake vet who's also a pedophile...that doesn't really mean much.

[Dos Equis]

First, Mons did say that.  I filed a complaint on the complaints board, but Hugo deleted it and banned Mons so I erased the complaint and requested Ron delete the thread.  Hugo did mention this on the complaints board but has since erased that post.  I did, however respond back in February:  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=308493.25


Secondly, you don't post facts Luke.  You post unfounded claims.  I specifically requested where you were getting your numbers from and you balked.  In fact, it was only after I mentioned the OECD report by name that you "suddenly" claimed to have read the report.


Third, drop the cry-baby shit about ad-hom attacks given your the biggest perpetrator around.  Anytime someone disagrees with you, you resort to calling them stupid or morons.  If you can't take it, don't dish it out.


You don't reference studies.  You don't reference sites.  You don't reference policies.  You don't reference shit (unless I give it to you).  Your claims are not facts.

As for Blacken, he was not a quality poster or debater.  He'd drop a YouTube video in and anybody who disagreed with him would get some other stupid YouTube vid (usually a crying baby or the stand up and be counted one).

Nice.  Well said. 

[Soul Crusher]

Skip knows how to throw a beatdown when he wants to. 

[The Luke]

Yeah, some good points being made here...

Maybe in future I should post a link for every bit of common knowledge I reference.

Because that's the big problem on this board, right? That people like me and Blacken reference reality but don't give links to specific sources... so why should the conservatives on here have to DISPROVE a claim with reference to their own research... that's just crazy.


After all, if I were to make a crazy claim, for example, claiming that the median income in the US is $28,500 per year... a claim at odds with 333386's unquestioned straight-out-of-ass guesstimate of $40,000 cited in the "How much should doctors make" thread and not cited or proven.

No one who disagrees with me should be expected to check that fact when attempting to counter that assertion... it's perfectly appropriate for them to dismiss that FACT solely because no reference was cited.


After all, if we forced the conservatives to check the facts every time they disagreed with a some tidbit of common knowledge... why, they'd be totally unable to maintain the paradigm of self-delusion that drives their thinking.


So, liberals should cite detailed references for everything they quote no matter how obvious... conservatives can then dismiss these citations, but any and all of their delusion-derived blanket assertions are deemed acceptable. At most a conservative should be asked to cite a bought-and-paid-for bullshit study provided by a neo-liberal conservative think tank... but only in the rarest of circumstances.


...and you guys wonder why this board is dying?


The Luke