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Re: Stupak voted Yes.
« Reply #100 on: March 24, 2010, 08:44:38 AM »
I already posted a thread on that.  We are screwed.

wait - so you're agreeing with McWAy's opinion that we have a de facto public option (Obamas sure is sneaky and Kucinich and Weiner are laughing all the way to the Kremlin) and now you know we're screwed.

I thought you said just yesterday you didn't enough about the public option to make a decision but somehow you learned enough about it in the last 15 minutes to know we're screwed?

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Re: Stupak voted Yes.
« Reply #101 on: March 24, 2010, 08:46:54 AM »
wait - so you're agreeing with McWAy's opinion that we have a de facto public option (Obamas sure is sneaky and Kucinich and Weiner are laughing all the way to the Kremlin) and now you know we're screwed.

I thought you said just yesterday you didn't enough about the public option to make a decision but somehow you learned enough about it in the last 15 minutes to know we're screwed?

Thats not what we have Straw.  We have the very definition of Facism now and it was delivered by your buddies on the left.  These carriers are now basically proxies of the govt and there is NO COST CONTROL WHATSOEVER and now you are left with no option to opt out. 


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Re: Stupak voted Yes.
« Reply #102 on: March 24, 2010, 09:12:40 AM »
Thats not what we have Straw.  We have the very definition of Facism now and it was delivered by your buddies on the left.  These carriers are now basically proxies of the govt and there is NO COST CONTROL WHATSOEVER and now you are left with no option to opt out. 

so you're saying you disagree with McWay and that Obama is not sneaking in a backdoor single payer system?

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Re: Stupak voted Yes.
« Reply #103 on: March 24, 2010, 09:20:18 AM »
so you're saying you disagree with McWay and that Obama is not sneaking in a backdoor single payer system?

No, this is intended to collapse the system and obama already said this is what he wants to do. 



He admits we need a 10-15 year transition plan before going to single payor. So he is doing a crap plan now intended to collapse the system.  Just watch this and about half way through he admits it. 


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Re: Stupak voted Yes.
« Reply #104 on: March 24, 2010, 09:34:58 AM »
333 - you're cracking me up man

that first clip is from 2003

when was the second clip (was he even a candidate yet or the nominee).

basically what you're saying is that you do agree with McWay  and I guess you're still undecided on whether a single payer system is good or bad.


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Re: Stupak voted Yes.
« Reply #105 on: March 24, 2010, 09:39:14 AM »
333 - you're cracking me up man

that first clip is from 2003

when was the second clip (was he even a candidate yet or the nominee).

basically what you're saying is that you do agree with McWay  and I guess you're still undecided on whether a single payer system is good or bad.



Straw - he admited in the second clip what he wants to do. 

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Re: Stupak voted Yes.
« Reply #106 on: March 24, 2010, 10:05:21 AM »
Straw - he admited in the second clip what he wants to do. 
yeah - hows he gonna do anything in 15 or 20 years when he is limited to 2 terms

btw - what time period was that second clip from?

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Re: Stupak voted Yes.
« Reply #107 on: March 24, 2010, 10:11:38 AM »
yeah - hows he gonna do anything in 15 or 20 years when he is limited to 2 terms

btw - what time period was that second clip from?

Because they are creating a system that by its nature will collapse on to itself and there will be no option left. 

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Re: Stupak voted Yes.
« Reply #108 on: March 24, 2010, 10:14:36 AM »
Because they are creating a system that by its nature will collapse on to itself and there will be no option left. 

so you're saying at some point there will be a huge shorting opportunity similar to what was available in banking stocks in  late 2007 and 2008?

luckily since you know about it now and have warned us we all have the opportunity to get rich and then it won't even matter because we can just go with Rush to Costa Rica or whereever all our doctors will go.

problem solved

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Re: Stupak voted Yes.
« Reply #109 on: March 24, 2010, 10:35:39 AM »
so you're saying at some point there will be a huge shorting opportunity similar to what was available in banking stocks in  late 2007 and 2008?

luckily since you know about it now and have warned us we all have the opportunity to get rich and then it won't even matter because we can just go with Rush to Costa Rica or whereever all our doctors will go.

problem solved

Straw this is basic economics and math.  They are creating a system destined to collapse all on to itself.  Ask Shoot or Kaje. 

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Re: Stupak voted Yes.
« Reply #110 on: March 24, 2010, 10:40:52 AM »
Straw this is basic economics and math.  They are creating a system destined to collapse all on to itself.  Ask Shoot or Kaje. 


dr. kaje really knows his stuff, i would def put him up there with larry summers when it comes to sound economic policy. Dr Kaje writes really great stuff for the Harvard business review..

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Re: Stupak voted Yes.
« Reply #111 on: March 24, 2010, 10:43:12 AM »

dr. kaje really knows his stuff, i would def put him up there with larry summers when it comes to sound economic policy. Dr Kaje writes really great stuff for the Harvard business review..

Kaje is a doctor who practices who understands the math behind this nonnsense.

You on the other hand, are a coke fiend looking for a hand out from Obama.     

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Re: Stupak voted Yes.
« Reply #112 on: March 24, 2010, 10:49:55 AM »
Kaje is a doctor who practices who understands the math behind this nonnsense.

You on the other hand, are a coke fiend looking for a hand out from Obama.      

he's a chiropractor..Most insurance plans don't even pay for Chiropractor visit's if i recall correctly.  My current plan does pay for CHR visits...I'm not looking for a hand-out. Like i said i'm utilitarian, so i even have your flotsam interest in mind.

While kaje is a smart, guy...he's not exaclty the end all "source" in this debate

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Re: Stupak voted Yes.
« Reply #113 on: March 24, 2010, 10:51:58 AM »
he's a chiropractor..Most insurance plans don't even pay for Chiropractor visit's if i recall correctly.  My current plan does pay for CHR visits...I'm not looking for a hand-out. Like i said i'm utilitarian, so i even have your flotsam interest in mind.

While kaje is a cool, smart, guy...he's not exaclty the end all source in this debate

You are just happy obamacare is going to cover drug addiction. 

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Re: Stupak voted Yes.
« Reply #114 on: March 24, 2010, 10:53:32 AM »
You are just happy obamacare is going to cover drug addiction.  

I'm not addicted to drugs...Only for rec value... 8)


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Re: Stupak voted Yes.
« Reply #115 on: March 24, 2010, 10:59:26 AM »
Besides 333367 you are the one who will win..you currently have a bare-bones plan if i recall correctly, which costs you almost 300 bucks a month..While my plan is a lot better than yours..

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Re: Stupak voted Yes.
« Reply #116 on: March 24, 2010, 11:00:59 AM »
Besides 333367 you are the one who will win..you currently have a bare-bones plan if i recall correctly, which costs you almost 300 bucks a month..While my plan is a lot better than yours..

I work for myself and dont want to pay for a cadiclac plan.  I stash money into my SEP and pay for a disability policy and and can cover my deductibles easily. 

Go into business for yourself fool and see if you last a week. 

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Re: Stupak voted Yes.
« Reply #117 on: March 24, 2010, 11:03:49 AM »
I work for myself and dont want to pay for a cadiclac plan.  I stash money into my SEP and pay for a disability policy and and can cover my deductibles easily. 

Go into business for yourself fool and see if you last a week. 

I don't want to go to business for myself, to much stress.  What is your SEP plan invested in? Real estate? Gold?

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Re: Stupak voted Yes.
« Reply #118 on: March 24, 2010, 01:15:07 PM »
Straw this is basic economics and math.  They are creating a system destined to collapse all on to itself.  Ask Shoot or Kaje. 

right man

like I said - thanks to your paranoid delusion (er I mean foresight) we're all going to get filthly rich shorting the healthcare sector.

Thanks man

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Re: Stupak voted Yes.
« Reply #119 on: March 24, 2010, 01:24:36 PM »
right man

like I said - thanks to your paranoid delusion (er I mean foresight) we're all going to get filthly rich shorting the healthcare sector.

Thanks man

Like I said Straw - ask Shoot or Kaje if this is going to work. 

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Re: Stupak voted Yes.
« Reply #120 on: March 24, 2010, 01:32:57 PM »
Like I said Straw - ask Shoot or Kaje if this is going to work. 

why the fuck would I ask them (no offense to either one)?

wtf?



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Re: Stupak voted Yes.
« Reply #121 on: March 24, 2010, 01:35:52 PM »
why the fuck would I ask them (no offense to either one)?

wtf?




Both are doctors who currently work in the system and probably are best able to tell us the overall effects of this mess.

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Re: Stupak voted Yes.
« Reply #122 on: March 24, 2010, 06:58:47 PM »
he's a chiropractor..



hahahahaha...now that explains a lot.