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Re: congratulations to the USA
« Reply #375 on: March 23, 2010, 09:04:30 PM »
and god bless them...maybe they can give me, and you some tips....

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They need to tip themselves the fuck out of my country.
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Re: congratulations to the USA
« Reply #376 on: March 23, 2010, 09:07:20 PM »
They need to tip themselves the fuck out of my country.

More and more will come into the states now Chaos.  >:( You should see Georgia, S.C, N.C., Florida, Texas....MEXICANS are everywhere!! There will be more coming and you and i will be forced to pay even more for them and their babies.  :o
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Re: congratulations to the USA
« Reply #377 on: March 23, 2010, 09:08:10 PM »
They need to tip themselves the fuck out of my country.
no way bro...i have gotten down to three basic food groups...

1)buffalo wings
2)Reuben sandwich
3)mexican food

if they leave it will take years to re-adapt my food groups.....plus, i always loved fucking theyre women...

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Re: congratulations to the USA
« Reply #378 on: March 23, 2010, 09:11:55 PM »
More and more will come into the states now Chaos.  >:( You should see Georgia, S.C, N.C., Florida, Texas....MEXICANS are everywhere!! There will be more coming and you and i will be forced to pay even more for them and their babies.  :o
I live in SOCal, we got more Mexicans than Mexico. :(

On a side note, a buddy of mine ran one over a couple of years ago, the dude was J walking and ran in front of him, unavoidable, anyway, this illegal fuck with no ID or papers ends up broken to pieces in the hospital and sues the shit out my buddys insurance company, WTF? Luckily his hospital bills were more than the 100,000 the insurance paid him so he got shit and the taxpayers had to pick up the rest of the tab for his hospital stay and rehab. ::)

bench, we don't need mexicans for mexican food and mexican bitches just get fat after they pop out their first kid at 15.
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Re: congratulations to the USA
« Reply #379 on: March 23, 2010, 09:12:13 PM »
i dont want health insurance...

now i'm gonna be forced to buy it


to support the leeches of society
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Re: congratulations to the USA
« Reply #380 on: March 23, 2010, 09:15:02 PM »
i dont want health insurance...

now i'm gonna be forced to buy it


to support the leeches of society
aren't you a immigrant?.......... ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Universal healthcare is cheaper than what we have now.
« Reply #381 on: March 23, 2010, 09:16:47 PM »
Tre, they are brokers, they are the smaller companies. Again, they are a auto insurance co. A large one none the less but still auto insurance.

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Re: congratulations to the USA
« Reply #382 on: March 23, 2010, 09:17:31 PM »
I live in SOCal, we got more Mexicans than Mexico. :(

On a side note, a buddy of mine ran one over a couple of years ago, the dude was J walking and ran in front of him, unavoidable, anyway, this illegal fuck with no ID or papers ends up broken to pieces in the hospital and sues the shit out my buddys insurance company, WTF? Luckily his hospital bills were more than the 100,000 the insurance paid him so he got shit and the taxpayers had to pick up the rest of the tab for his hospital stay and rehab. ::)

bench, we don't need mexicans for mexican food and mexican bitches just get fat after they pop out their first kid at 15.

X2 Be glad that you do not live on the east coast because we have Guatemalans and they are short fuckers that sling out baby after baby!!

Get ready to pay more money to support them.  :D

I have already accepted it.  >:( It is funny to go grocery shopping and see them have like 6 kids and have $2500 in food stamps.  >:(

I just wondered, how the fuck do you get $2500 in Food Stamp money.....
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Re: Universal healthcare is cheaper than what we have now.
« Reply #383 on: March 23, 2010, 09:19:12 PM »
Tre, they are brokers, they are the smaller companies. Again, they are a auto insurance co. A large one none the less but still auto insurance.
can you bring my car around...im ready to leave.....

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Re: Universal healthcare is cheaper than what we have now.
« Reply #384 on: March 23, 2010, 09:20:03 PM »
can you bring my car around...im ready to leave.....

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Re: congratulations to the USA
« Reply #385 on: March 23, 2010, 09:20:09 PM »
X2 Be glad that you do not live on the east coast because we have Guatemalans and they are short fuckers that sling out baby after baby!!

Get ready to pay more money to support them.  :D

I have already accepted it.  >:( It is funny to go grocery shopping and see them have like 6 kids and have $2500 in food stamps.  >:(

I just wondered, how the fuck do you get $2500 in Food Stamp money.....
Dirty little fuckers, as an American I should have the right to demand immigration papers from anyone I am suspicious of, if they can't provide them, I should be able to shoot them on the spot. They are breaking and entering into my country, if it was my house I could shoot them, why not my country?
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Re: congratulations to the USA
« Reply #386 on: March 23, 2010, 09:27:25 PM »
I just wondered, how the fuck do you get $2500 in Food Stamp money.....

anybody on getdumb work for the welfare office.  i'd like to know this also. 


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Re: congratulations to the USA
« Reply #387 on: March 23, 2010, 09:28:18 PM »
never really understood the opposition to this change.

I know I know, americans think the hell with my neighbour, I don't want my taxes to cover his medical bills, or my own, I will just pay out of pocket if I get sick  (if I dont' have health insurance - there are about 50 million out of 300 million that don't..)

problem is, few who don't have health insurance can afford it.

hence, why most bankruptcies in the states are due to medical bills.

here in Canada, that never happens. if you get sick, you get treatment, operation, whatever.

you don't go to the poor house to do it.

If Americans realized how good our health care system was, they would be all for it.

but they don't realize how good we have it, and how bad they do...



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Re: congratulations to the USA
« Reply #388 on: March 23, 2010, 09:29:51 PM »
but they don't realize how good we have it, and how bad they do...




Your tax rate is like 40%, fuck that.
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Re: Obama Healthcare Bill just officially passed
« Reply #389 on: March 23, 2010, 09:30:22 PM »
I just came back from a specialist that i was at for four fucking hours and he is pissed about this bill.  8)

if you didn't have health insurance, you would be pissed at his bill to you 8)
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Re: Universal healthcare is cheaper than what we have now.
« Reply #390 on: March 23, 2010, 09:32:23 PM »
wow stupid post all around, insurance companies help the healthcare industry, they supply money for drugs? LMAO. Do you know the markup on xanax for example it's in the 100,000 percentile, it's robbery, all other businesses have a 90% mark-up cap, but not the pharmaceutical agencies, they can do as they please, profit more then any other business in the world and still offer shit and doctored studies. Healthcare for every citizen makes sense for the collective good, money should never be worth more then lives. You're very idealistic and this bill FORCES this idealism on people who have worked hard for the money they've earned.  This bill also highlights a cultural problem in America right now.  Nothing is free, folks.  There's a very real price to be paid here: its called an increase in health care recipients, but a decrease in the quality of care.  Prepare yourself for long waits. Sure it sucks for run of the mill illnesses, but that kid with neuroblastoma with no money can now have a chance at living, insted of dying on the street in the name of profit. Run of the mill businesses?  What's a run of the mill business?  I might work for one, based on your definition. Doctors should have the patients interest in mind, any doctor in the profession to make money is a bad doctor. Doctors want to have a nice lifestyle, it's what kept many of them going while they were working 36 hour shifts as an intern.  Most of them have worked EXTREMELY hard to have that MD after their name, and this bill is going to reduce the incentive to become a doctor. Getting fair pay is fine, and we deserve it but if thats your motive then gtfo. I dont know seeing sick kids with cancer kinda skews my view though, perhaps your right, only those who work hard should get the benefits of proper and urgent healthcare. Oh wait, isnt SES a risk factor for poor health, oh shit it is.


i said illnesses, not businesses, you misread. So people with more then enough cannot afford more taxing? are you suggesting poor people dont work hard. Listen nothing is free and getting ahead is an issue, glass ceilings exist and the gap between the rich and the poor continues to widen. The poor cannot catch up no matter how hard they work, unless they get a scholarship to school you have to pay, hard to do when you have no money, quite easy for the rich kid with mommy and daddy to pay for everything. Listen i am in med school, i pay 20 gs a year myself or will be its on loan right now, i have worked hard for my degrees and i don't see how the ideal that the well off should help the sick and poor is in anyway negative. I will be well off, i do not have a problem aiding those that are disadvantaged, sick and unable to help themselves. What about the kid born into a poor family with lupus, he has to overcome his illness, with poor treatment to excel in life? seems fucking skewed to me. No one gets the same starting point nor is life fair, if you have be given a hand to excel in life, had things given to you, and made great decisions then im all for it. But don't think that others haven't tried just as hard yet circumstances omit them from the royalties you posses.

The system has flaws i admit that, however, it can and should be worked on to find a happy medium. I disagree, doctors work hard to save lives and have a meaningful existence. Are truly compassionate people, want to ease suffering and help others with there natural gifts (intelligence obviously). Money and a comfortable life is expected, and is still attainable, what makes you think it isn't, what do we need 700 000 gs a year to life leisurely? Find a truly passionate doctor, many of the specialists especially those working with kids will tell you that nothing brings them more joy then aiding a sick kid, helping a family in distress. Jesus man that is what it's about, when material shit becomes priority A, then you have lost sight. Again, i want both, i just don't want excess of one with impedence of the other.


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Re: congratulations to the USA
« Reply #391 on: March 23, 2010, 09:34:20 PM »
Your tax rate is like 40%, fuck that.

more like 30%..

but what would you rather do: learn to live off 70% of your gross income and get healthcare without going bankrupt.

or get 80% of it but lose everything you own anyway to cover medical bills if you get sick or need an operation??

the choice should be obvious..

now, I realize that this doesn't really apply to those with health insurance.

but for a large percentage of the population, they have none. and even with those that do, many things are not covered, like if you have  pre existing condtion etc.

in canada, that doesn't matter. you need care you get care..and you don't go to the poorhouse to get it.

now, our system isn't perfect either. there are drawbacks, like longer wait times.
but in general, I think it is  better considing the financial crises that many find themselves in in the States.

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Re: Universal healthcare is cheaper than what we have now.
« Reply #392 on: March 23, 2010, 09:34:21 PM »
hahahahahahahah
honestly bro...at this point of the night....i dont even remeber posting that shit ;D

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Re: congratulations to the USA
« Reply #393 on: March 23, 2010, 09:35:10 PM »
Your tax rate is like 40%, fuck that.
paying taxes is overated...

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Re: congratulations to the USA
« Reply #394 on: March 23, 2010, 09:36:04 PM »
Dirty little fuckers, as an American I should have the right to demand immigration papers from anyone I am suspicious of, if they can't provide them, I should be able to shoot them on the spot. They are breaking and entering into my country, if it was my house I could shoot them, why not my country?

If you shoot them in your house, they can actually sue you and that is fuckin sad.  >:( I agree with you on being able to shoot them though.  8) I think that you and i may have the same problem with Mexicans, you go into a subway or a burger joint and might say, "I want a God Damn Chicken Sandwhich you God Damn GooBack."  8)
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Re: congratulations to the USA
« Reply #395 on: March 23, 2010, 09:36:58 PM »
Following in Europe's/Canada's foot steps is the right track to prosperity and a healthy society..

























.. only heading in the wrong effing direction.  

Socialism is for the lazy, the degenerated, and the poor by irresponsibility.  For everyone else this is the only place that can still allow you to look after yourself if you so choose.. at least for now.    

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Re: Universal healthcare is cheaper than what we have now.
« Reply #396 on: March 23, 2010, 09:37:53 PM »
If you actually work for a living and can afford insurance, you are not going to be better off in the USA.

I will admit that Canada's system is pretty good and in terms of averages, is normally ranked ahead of the American system.  Having said that, Canada does not have over 10 million illegal aliens to provide health care for nor do we have the vast welfare state that the USA has.  Working class people have every reason to be upset with this bill and have a lot to lose.

Yeah, but Xanax exists at all, that's my point.

Guess what?  In Canada we don't have the ability to buy some of these drugs even if we had a BILLION dollars.  Try to understand that it is better to at least have the option than not have it at all.





if the drug is not over here like tianeptine for example it has nothing to do with our health system they are completely seperate. Its teh studies, funding for such, and our regulatory board. We have access to all the drugs any country has, the pharmaceutical companies ensure that, why wouldn't they? They want us to buy there drugs, give them money. The pharmaceutical companies provide the money for drug research, they will not be affected by this bill in a negative manner, in fact i see them gaining as people without healthcare can get on a polypharmacy cocktail and the insurance companies will pay the large percentage of it.

drug and innovations will have no hinderance with this bill, none, you make no sense.

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Re: congratulations to the USA
« Reply #397 on: March 23, 2010, 09:39:20 PM »
more like 30%..

but what would you rather do: learn to live off 70% of your gross income and get healthcare without going bankrupt.

or get 80% of it but lose everything you own anyway to cover medical bills if you get sick or need an operation??

the choice should be obvious..

now, I realize that this doesn't really apply to those with health insurance.


but for a large percentage of the population, they have none. and even with those that do, many things are not covered, like if you have  pre existing condtion etc.

in canada, that doesn't matter. you need care you get care..and you don't go to the poorhouse to get it.

now, our system isn't perfect either. there are drawbacks, like longer wait times.
but in general, I think it is  better considing the financial crises that many find themselves in in the States.


Exactly, Obama should be more concerned with getting jobs back to the US so people can afford their own insurance rather than giving people a handout.

If you shoot them in your house, they can actually sue you and that is fuckin sad.  >:( I agree with you on being able to shoot them though.  8) I think that you and i may have the same problem with Mexicans, you go into a subway or a burger joint and might say, "I want a God Damn Chicken Sandwhich you God Damn GooBack."  8)
They can only sue if they are alive. ;)
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Re: congratulations to the USA
« Reply #398 on: March 23, 2010, 09:41:09 PM »
If you shoot them in your house, they can actually sue you and that is fuckin sad.  >:( I agree with you on being able to shoot them though.  8) I think that you and i may have the same problem with Mexicans, you go into a subway or a burger joint and might say, "I want a God Damn Chicken Sandwhich you God Damn GooBack."  8)
not in my state 8)

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Re: congratulations to the USA
« Reply #399 on: March 23, 2010, 09:42:52 PM »
anybody on getdumb work for the welfare office.  i'd like to know this also. 



I went to Defax with a friend and i guess that is the same thing, the person working the front desk, A MEXICAN!! I could not even understand what she was saying.

Bottom Line...My friend was very ill and needed "Immediate Medicare" and was denied because he did not have any children....SADDDD!!!

So i stepped in the window and asked her, "My friend is not eligible because he did not have a fucking kid or kids??" "Yes, if he would have children then he would get Immediate Medicare, Food Stamps and a monthly check."

I thought to myself, My friend is still in school and cannot afford what was needed and he is being punished because he does not have children.....Smart guy because he wants to be mentally ready, in love and "FINACLLY READY"
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