Author Topic: Unbelievable White Man Genetics... (Read 19191 times)

~UN_$ung~ · « **on:** April 02, 2010, 10:23:33 AM »

we forget what a superb bodybuilder mike francois was, literally no weak points.

other then that he won some pro shows, most notable the ASC in the mid 90s i dont know much about him........can anyone fill us in?

why didnt he ever get more notoriety? why did his career end early? why was his talent not fully realized?

(on a side note, notice this clip: the ASC was being presented on ESPN

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this nationals appearance is even more impressive.....

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #1 on:** April 02, 2010, 10:32:54 AM »

Quote from: ~UN_$ung~ on April 02, 2010, 10:23:33 AM

we forget what a superb bodybuilder mike francois was, literally no weak points.

other then that he won some pro shows, most notable the ASC in the mid 90s i dont know much about him........can anyone fill us in?

why didnt he ever get more notoriety? why did his career end early? why was his talent not fully realized?

(on a side note, notice this clip: the ASC was being presented on ESPN )

this nationals appearance is even more impressive.....

he had a great back that's for sure

Parker · « **Reply #2 on:** April 02, 2010, 10:38:54 AM »

Great bodybuilder, trained powerlifting style. He was a ordained Priest or was in seminary, I forgot. There is a pic in Flex mag of a close up of him on the vertical leg press, one eff insane leg shot. He had a black physique though. If he didn't get sick, there would be no Jay Cutler...Mike was the shit...

calfzilla · « **Reply #3 on:** April 02, 2010, 10:39:44 AM »

Quote from: ~UN_$ung~ on April 02, 2010, 10:23:33 AM

we forget what a superb bodybuilder mike francois was, literally no weak points.

other then that he won some pro shows, most notable the ASC in the mid 90s i dont know much about him........can anyone fill us in?

why didnt he ever get more notoriety? why did his career end early? why was his talent not fully realized?

(on a side note, notice this clip: the ASC was being presented on ESPN )

this nationals appearance is even more impressive.....

Did bodybuilding used to be a sport?

~UN_$ung~ · « **Reply #4 on:** April 02, 2010, 10:44:08 AM »

Quote from: Parker on April 02, 2010, 10:38:54 AM

Great bodybuilder, trained powerlifting style. He was a ordained Priest or was in seminary, I forgot. There is a pic in Flex mag of a close up of him on the vertical leg press, one eff insane leg shot. He had a black physique though. If he didn't get sick, there would be no Jay Cutler...Mike was the shit...

is that what happened, he got sick???

was it a typical 90s BB type thing, liver or kidneys??

delta9mda · « **Reply #5 on:** April 02, 2010, 10:50:16 AM »

Quote from: ~UN_$ung~ on April 02, 2010, 10:44:08 AM

is that what happened, he got sick???

was it a typical 90s BB type thing, liver or kidneys??

colon, they removed alot of it.

~UN_$ung~ · « **Reply #6 on:** April 02, 2010, 10:52:07 AM »

Quote from: delta9mda on April 02, 2010, 10:50:16 AM

colon, they removed alot of it.

is that a joke?

emn1964 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 02, 2010, 11:07:10 AM »

Quote from: ~UN_$ung~ on April 02, 2010, 10:52:07 AM

is that a joke?

not a joke...true story.

~UN_$ung~ · « **Reply #8 on:** April 02, 2010, 11:10:39 AM »

Quote from: emn1964 on April 02, 2010, 11:07:10 AM

not a joke...true story.

well did it have anything to do with the bodybuilding lifestyle and the "supplements"

or was it just a freak thing??

this guys owns jay cutler genetically, yates as well

Parker · « **Reply #9 on:** April 02, 2010, 11:21:55 AM »

Quote from: ~UN_$ung~ on April 02, 2010, 10:44:08 AM

is that what happened, he got sick???

was it a typical 90s BB type thing, liver or kidneys??

Severe Ulcerative Colitis I believe...he had to have one of those "bags"as well, I think. Came at the wrong time, he was on the verge of becoming the next "one"...
It seems the ones destined for greatness are shot down early, like Dennis Newman and his luekemia, Don Long, etc. All three had the "model face" look. Which is why Weider banked heavily on them.

delta9mda · « **Reply #10 on:** April 02, 2010, 11:22:02 AM »

Quote from: ~UN_$ung~ on April 02, 2010, 11:10:39 AM

well did it have anything to do with the bodybuilding lifestyle and the "supplements"

or was it just a freak thing??

this guys owns jay cutler genetically, yates as well

i dont think gear had a hand in the problem. mike was great but his abs sucked(genetically) and he was not as thick as Yates in the back. standing next to Yates he was no where near as big.

bigbobs · « **Reply #11 on:** April 02, 2010, 11:23:45 AM »

Never understood the Francois hype. Wasn't his highest Mr. O placing ever a 7th place, once? I mean yeah he was good overall but to compare him to consistent top 5 Mr. Olympia placers?

He was also overrated by judges at times like the 94 NOC, what a joke decision that was.

emn1964 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 02, 2010, 11:32:06 AM »

Quote from: bigbobs on April 02, 2010, 11:23:45 AM

Never understood the Francois hype. Wasn't his highest Mr. O placing ever a 7th place, once? I mean yeah he was good overall but to compare him to consistent top 5 Mr. Olympia placers?

He was also overrated by judges at times like the 94 NOC, what a joke decision that was.

don't you have a suicide bombing to practice for?

~UN_$ung~ · « **Reply #13 on:** April 02, 2010, 11:32:17 AM »

Quote from: delta9mda on April 02, 2010, 11:22:02 AM

i dont think gear had a hand in the problem. mike was great but his abs sucked(genetically) and he was not as thick as Yates in the back. standing next to Yates he was no where near as big.

yeh, i will concede that his abs were probably his weakest part

but his back was pretty impressive............it just seems like he didnt have alot of time.......he was on the scene in like 93--94 and off by what, 96?

FitnessFrenzy · « **Reply #14 on:** April 02, 2010, 11:45:39 AM »

Quote from: bigbobs on April 02, 2010, 11:23:45 AM

Never understood the Francois hype. Wasn't his highest Mr. O placing ever a 7th place, once? I mean yeah he was good overall but to compare him to consistent top 5 Mr. Olympia placers?

He was also overrated by judges at times like the 94 NOC, what a joke decision that was.

Yeah, but he placed 3rd at the ASC and won a couple of pro shows:

http://musclememory.com

bigmikecox · « **Reply #15 on:** April 02, 2010, 11:46:46 AM »

He has a pretty successful personal training business in Columbus and he promotes the Francois Classic each May. His calves are still big as shit!!!!!!

bigbobs · « **Reply #16 on:** April 02, 2010, 11:48:13 AM »

Quote from: FitnessFrenzy on April 02, 2010, 11:45:39 AM

Yeah, but he placed 3rd at the ASC and won a couple of pro shows:

http://musclememory.com

He won the AC in 95, then got 7th at the Olympia that year. Got 3rd at one AC behind Wheeler and Nasser. Unfairly won the NOC in 94. Like I said, good bodybuilder overall but to consider him as top tier is a stretch

Besides, everyone says Wheeler was weak in 95 so was the 95 AC win that big of a deal, especially considering that later in the same year the AC winner lost to the 1st, 2nd and 3rd placers from the 95 NOC (which is supposed to be a weaker show) at the Olympia? (Nasser, Taylor and Cormier)

lvtolft · « **Reply #17 on:** April 02, 2010, 11:51:14 AM »

I would have considered him top tier at his time.
Not now. I think what is being said about him is that if he did not get sick and competed longer he would have done even more. Besides his abs, his other weakness (back thickness) could have been improved.
Great bodybuilder IMO.

~UN_$ung~ · « **Reply #18 on:** April 02, 2010, 11:51:34 AM »

Quote from: FitnessFrenzy on April 02, 2010, 11:45:39 AM

Yeah, but he placed 3rd at the ASC and won a couple of pro shows:

http://musclememory.com

no he won the ASC in 95

SF1900 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 02, 2010, 11:54:10 AM »

Quote from: bigbobs on April 02, 2010, 11:23:45 AM

Never understood the Francois hype. Wasn't his highest Mr. O placing ever a 7th place, once? I mean yeah he was good overall but to compare him to consistent top 5 Mr. Olympia placers?

He was also overrated by judges at times like the 94 NOC, what a joke decision that was.

You're just being biased because he's not Nasser

KevinP85 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 02, 2010, 11:59:28 AM »

Quote from: lvtolft on April 02, 2010, 11:51:14 AM

I would have considered him top tier at his time.
Not now. I think what is being said about him is that if he did not get sick and competed longer he would have done even more. Besides his abs, his other weakness (back thickness) could have been improved.
Great bodybuilder IMO.

Are you serious? Back and back thickness was his strong points.

bigbobs · « **Reply #21 on:** April 02, 2010, 12:04:22 PM »

Quote from: lvtolft on April 02, 2010, 11:51:14 AM

I would have considered him top tier at his time.
Not now. I think what is being said about him is that if he did not get sick and competed longer he would have done even more. Besides his abs, his other weakness (back thickness) could have been improved.
Great bodybuilder IMO.

Maybe, but I dont think its very likely that he would have cracked top 6 at an Olympia or few.

bigbobs · « **Reply #22 on:** April 02, 2010, 12:04:57 PM »

Quote from: SF1900 on April 02, 2010, 11:54:10 AM

You're just being biased because he's not Nasser

Look at the facts I posted

~UN_$ung~ · « **Reply #23 on:** April 02, 2010, 12:07:30 PM »

Quote from: Ryan on April 02, 2010, 11:59:28 AM

Are you serious? Back and back thickness was his strong points.

thats what im saying, look at a few of the pics Nd and i posted.....he was fameous for having dense, thick spinal erectors

look again at how fuckin thick this back is

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #24 on:** April 02, 2010, 12:19:43 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on April 02, 2010, 11:23:45 AM

Never understood the Francois hype. Wasn't his highest Mr. O placing ever a 7th place, once? I mean yeah he was good overall but to compare him to consistent top 5 Mr. Olympia placers?

He was also overrated by judges at times like the 94 NOC, what a joke decision that was.

There are a lot of things you don't understand about bodybuilding old news , hype? he turned pro in 1993 and then proceded to win his first four pro shows beating many seasoned pros in the process

He did better in the spring shows and always came in off during the later ones , if he never got sick he would have surely won more contests

and he was only ' overrated ' because he kicked Nasser's ass at the NOC and Nasser was in good shape too so of course as usual it can't be Nasser was not good enough , no , it had to be politics and bullshit

it must suck living your life full of excuses and denial