found out another good friend is NOT a CHRISTIAN!!!!

[Captain Equipoise]

creating does not imply good, the rational does not follow. Is the creator of the atomic bomb good? what about the creator of syphillis, herpes, aids, congenital malformities, oh wait thats god. There is no logical connection between good and creation, he could be just as likely evil and created life to watch us suffer. God is all powerfull ie he created does not follow, he could be powerfull enough to create but not all powerfull, there is no logic there. Again why is god exempt from creation but the universe has to be created, the logic does not follow. You are making the rules up as you go with no reasoning besides the word eternal which may or may not exist and is something we can really say nothing about. For instance he created in eternity in this sentence we have a contradiction. Eternity implies no time, creation an act requires something to come before then after, a temporal event, thus the ability to create in eternity makes no sense.

None of gods attributes make sense, they are incompatible with each other.

Excellent post, the whole concept of 'god' is one giant clusterfuck of contradictions and oxymoron's.

[tbombz]

Aw come on man wth, you're just an ordinary nut job christian in disguise. What a disappointment.

"God is good"

The idea of good is a product of the human mind. What constitutes good also changes over the course of time which makes it even more fallible.
It's irrelevant for a creating deity unless you're a theist.

Morals are not a product of the human mind. Good is not a product of the human mind. There are differences in culturally acceptable behaviors. "Moral relativity". Sure. Creation(in the sense of existence) is inherently good.

"God is all powerful"

So you're saying that this creating deity is an omniscient omni-potent being? Does it rule over the universe or just created it?

God obviously has the power to create everything that is within this universe. Subsequently, he completely understand everything in the universe. Besides the universe, there is only God, and im sure he knows himself too. 



"God is eternal"

Not even the universe as we know it is eternal since it's heading for nothingness. Not even atoms will remain, only minuscule particles. How can your deity be eternal with all the supposed abilities you ascribe him? How can you possibly prove this without mentioning faith? Could it all possibly be a freak product of your imagination? I believe so.

Something must have always been. Both beleivers and atheist agree. But what an atheist doesnt realise is that only God can be forever(Its impossible for space and matter to even exist, let alone be the only that ever existed). It follows that God necessarily exists.

Just admit that you're a full blown theist and stop with this deist crap.

[tbombz]

creating does not imply good, the rational does not follow. Is the creator of the atomic bomb good? what about the creator of syphillis, herpes, aids, congenital malformities, oh wait thats god. There is no logical connection between good and creation, he could be just as likely evil and created life to watch us suffer.


Creation IS good. you just arent seeing it. 


God is all powerfull ie he created does not follow, he could be powerfull enough to create but not all powerfull, there is no logic there. Again why is god exempt from creation but the universe has to be created, the logic does not follow. You are making the rules up as you go with no reasoning besides the word eternal which may or may not exist and is something we can really say nothing about. For instance he created in eternity in this sentence we have a contradiction. Eternity implies no time, creation an act requires something to come before then after, a temporal event, thus the ability to create in eternity makes no sense.

None of gods attributes make sense, they are incompatible with each other.

time begins and ends, eternity does not... time happens during a portion of eternity... eternity is not a place, it is a term for forever. God does live in eternity, nor act in eternity..

you arent accepting God, and thats why you dont get it. Circular? you betcha. lol.. ill be back to expand more on my answers to this post later... ive got a paper to be doing.

[Necrosis]

time begins and ends, eternity does not... time happens during a portion of eternity... eternity is not a place, it is a term for forever. God does live in eternity, nor act in eternity..

you arent accepting God, and thats why you dont get it. Circular? you betcha. lol.. ill be back to expand more on my answers to this post later... ive got a paper to be doing.

its relative, creation isnt inherently good. I dont know i geuss the people who commit suicide disagree with you. You have no idea if god acts in eternity, lives in eternity, if there is an eternity. You are not listening to the responses im giving you. SOMETHING CAN COME FROM NOTHING, it has been proven.

[phyxsius]

Listen to the first minute of this...brilliant..

that video shows that he is absolutely spot on about religion but it also shows clearly, 100% grade A, money back guarantee that he does not know God.. not a single bit..

 

[tbombz]

its relative, creation isnt inherently good. I dont know i geuss the people who commit suicide disagree with you. You have no idea if god acts in eternity, lives in eternity, if there is an eternity. You are not listening to the responses im giving you. SOMETHING CAN COME FROM NOTHING, it has been proven.

i was hoping you would bring that up. something comes from nothing? impossible. they may have thought that is what had happened, but whatever did happen is something can can be explained, just not in a way that we are aware of presently.

[tbombz]

its relative, creation isnt inherently good. I dont know i geuss the people who commit suicide disagree with you. You have no idea if god acts in eternity, lives in eternity, if there is an eternity. You are not listening to the responses im giving you. SOMETHING CAN COME FROM NOTHING, it has been proven.

there is no question to whether eternity exists. its like asking if yourself exists. self defeating question.

[lovemonkey]

At this point tbombz, your god is whatever you want him to be. Your mind is shut.

[theonlyone]

Some idiots use to say - "there has never been any proof or evidence of a god being here or ever existing." You're the IDIOT, the cockrouch and no body in particular to dictate god the way he should behave i.e. show up so you would laugh at him.
 Another morons use to say - "initially (during early times) the concept of god was created to explain natural phenomena like lightning, rain, thunderstorms, earthquakes, tornadoes, etc. that's all it ever was." OOO KEY! How do you explain people who suddenly died in their sleep from the earthquake what caused their sudden death?
 Another clowns love to use the interesting words such as - atom!, energy!, universe, nuclear explosion!, scientific experiments!, string theory, quantum mechanics, nano tecknology! You name it! And it seems for them that they are almost grabbed God by balls. OOO KEY! Prove that GOD is not laughing at you.
 And it's just a begining

[tbombz]

At this point tbombz, your god is whatever you want him to be. Your mind is shut.

do you not have a clear and distinct idea in your mind of an eternal, infinite, perfect, omniscient being?  not whether you believe it exists, nor whether you can comprehend what it would mean to be that being..  but is the idea in your head ?

[theonlyone]

do you not have a clear and distinct idea in your mind of an eternal, infinite, perfect, omniscient being?  not whether you believe it exists, nor whether you can comprehend what it would mean to be that being..  but is the idea in your head ?

The idea in his head is that since he cannot feel the GOD's balls in his hands means that there is no god. It's just interesting to be proclaiming yourself an atheist because it's just fun, modern and interesting what happens and what's new the scientist discover. God is laughing at him and Jesus waiting for him. Tbombz you overcomplicate things but may be it an american thing

[Captain Equipoise]

The idea in his head is that since he cannot feel the GOD's balls in his hands means that there is no god. It's just interesting to be proclaiming yourself an atheist because it's just fun, modern and interesting what happens and what's new the scientist discover. God is laughing at him and Jesus waiting for him. Tbombz you overcomplicate things but may be it an american thing

1. Learn some English

2. What possible proof do you have that God exists other than fahith

3. How can you refute scientific advancements over the last 1000 years

[big L dawg]

Some idiots use to say - "there has never been any proof or evidence of a god being here or ever existing." You're the IDIOT, the cockrouch and no body in particular to dictate god the way he should behave i.e. show up so you would laugh at him.
 Another morons use to say - "initially (during early times) the concept of god was created to explain natural phenomena like lightning, rain, thunderstorms, earthquakes, tornadoes, etc. that's all it ever was." OOO KEY! How do you explain people who suddenly died in their sleep from the earthquake what caused their sudden death?
 Another clowns love to use the interesting words such as - atom!, energy!, universe, nuclear explosion!, scientific experiments!, string theory, quantum mechanics, nano tecknology! You name it! And it seems for them that they are almost grabbed God by balls. OOO KEY! Prove that GOD is not laughing at you.
 And it's just a begining

haha...wow...just wow...

[Butterbean]

SOMETHING CAN COME FROM NOTHING, it has been proven.

Hi Necro!  Do you have a link that discusses this that I could read please or if not just explain it?

Also, I'm  not sure if you ever linked me to the proof of macro evolution or not..if you did I missed it..sorry..can you link me (again) please?  Thanks!

[theonlyone]

1. Learn some English

2. What possible proof do you have that God exists other than fahith

3. How can you refute scientific advancements over the last 1000 years

 English will improve with time, as the chinese of yours. Do you need the proof, that I'm an athiest? 1 min a day I go and cry for fun - Where is the proof that fuckin God exists? In the realm of reason there can be no proof of God's existence!
 Let's better put the scientific advancements in perspective! I think in 1000 years we will yet put the man on MARZ or even further! Too bad you will not see it my friend. It will be unfeasible, for the simple reason that you will be abiding for already hundred years now in places considerably more remote than Marz and to extract you from there is in no way possible, I assure you.
 

[big L dawg]

English will improve with time, as the chinese of yours. Do you need the proof, that I'm an athiest? 1 min a day I go and cry for fun - Where is the proof that fuckin God exists? In the realm of reason there can be no proof of God's existence!
 Let's better put the scientific advancements in perspective! I think in 1000 years we will yet put the man on MARZ or even further! Too bad you will not see it my friend. It will be unfeasible, for the simple reason that you will be abiding for already hundred years now in places considerably more remote than Marz and to extract you from there is in no way possible, I assure you.
 

It's not that god is beyond human comprehension It's your post's that are beyond human comprehension...

[theonlyone]

It's not that god is beyond human comprehension It's your post's that are beyond human comprehension...

Back to school dawg

[big L dawg]

Back to school dawg

god was created by the human mind...

[devilsmile]

THIS is quote is SO Accurate about christianity
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1) The Bible is not even a credible source for good philosophy. If the Judeo-Christian God was real, our universe would be FUCKING SCARY because he did some shit in the Bible that was IN NO WAY benevolent, even reveling in the suffering of humans.
Need some sources? www(dot)evilbible(dot)com has countless quotes from the Bible which serve as evidence that the Bible's morals are not divine; they are outdated.

2) Christians look at science with hostility. That makes their judgment less accurate. I would go so far as to say that I don't know a single Christian who goes out of his way to better understand the nature of life and our universe. There is a certain kind of arrogant ignorance there which is mind-boggling.

3) Christians are assholes. Sure, there are those people out there who are completely devoid of humor and just live to be shining examples of human altruism (and they are crazy), but there are a lot more Christians out there who are socially lazy, so they join the Christian club, don't even really care what the message is, and they just go about their lives as though they aren't religious. They will cut in line at the bar, they will steal your seat when you leave the room, and they'll throw around prejudiced slurs behind others' backs.
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[Necrosis]

Hi Necro!  Do you have a link that discusses this that I could read please or if not just explain it?

Also, I'm  not sure if you ever linked me to the proof of macro evolution or not..if you did I missed it..sorry..can you link me (again) please?  Thanks!

sure. i think the title of the thread is evidence for macroevolution on your board started by me. they also just found two new species of ape that are a progression from ape to humanoid.

the nothing to something is just from experiments on vaccums that illustrate that virtual particles pop into existence from nothing, that is they pop out of thin air it seems, a few theories have attempted to explain it.

[Necrosis]

i was hoping you would bring that up. something comes from nothing? impossible. they may have thought that is what had happened, but whatever did happen is something can can be explained, just not in a way that we are aware of presently.

im not sure what your last sentence is saying, mind rephrasing that for me?

it doesnt matter if you dont believe it, it happens. Also, say i agree that something has always existed, energy fits that bill quite fine. Since it cannot be CREATED nor DESTROYED.

your need to put a creator there only complicates things.

[theonlyone]

god was created by the human mind...

Your whole reality is created by the human mind. But don't mind it and even try. Fuck, drink, smoke and see how far the Hubble flying fuck can see, that's it. Jesus waits ya to judge ya.

[Captain Equipoise]

It's not that god is beyond human comprehension It's your post's that are beyond human comprehension...

x2

I didn't understand a single bit of his gibberish. He sounds like Kyomu on acid.

[big L dawg]

Your whole reality is created by the human mind. But don't mind it and even try. Fuck, drink, smoke and see how far the Hubble flying fuck can see, that's it. Jesus waits ya to judge ya.

yea ok..

[Captain Equipoise]

yea ok..

Yea, I was gonna say more or less the same.. the only difference is I think he's snorting laundry detergent or some other household cleaner.