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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #250 on: April 04, 2010, 03:40:56 PM »
He's an American citizen just like I am, what are you talking about? 

You've got to be born in a country to fully appreciate it?

 I wasn't talking to you.
 You will know that im talking to you , when i quoted you.. like i did now.

 Being proud of your country, is being proud of your family,or being proud of who you are or where you came from.
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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #251 on: April 04, 2010, 03:42:56 PM »
Yep agreed.

The illegals are, no doubt.  They're the worst of the worst from their country, but don't forget about the millions of professionals that come here from all over the world every year.
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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #252 on: April 04, 2010, 03:43:11 PM »

You might want to update your information.  Notice the Dramatic Changes from yours (no idea how old your data is) which is outdated to mine which was released 2009 (reads until the year 2007).

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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #253 on: April 04, 2010, 03:44:05 PM »
I wasn't talking to you.
 You will know that im talking to you , when i quoted you.. like i did now.

 Being proud of your country, is being proud of your family,or being proud of who you are or where you came from.

I realize you weren't talking to me you stupid bastard.  :D 
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« Reply #254 on: April 04, 2010, 03:48:27 PM »
The illegals are, no doubt.  They're the worst of the worst from their country, but don't forget about the millions of professionals that come here from all over the world every year.
By the way Eyeball,

The UNITED STATES is number 13 on the Human Development Index Map.

NOT number one.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index

Norway 0.971 (▲ 1)
 Australia 0.970 (▲ 2)
 Iceland 0.969 (▼ 2)
 Canada 0.966 (▼ 1)
 Ireland 0.965 (▬)
 Netherlands 0.964 (▬)
 Sweden 0.963 (▬)
 France 0.961 (▲ 3)
 Switzerland 0.960 (▬)
 Japan 0.960 (▬)
 Luxembourg 0.960 (▼ 3)
 Finland 0.959 (▲ 1)
 United States 0.956 (▼ 1)
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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #255 on: April 04, 2010, 03:49:32 PM »
but don't forget about the millions of professionals that come here from all over the world every year.
You just like to make shit up ,don't you ?  ;D

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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #256 on: April 04, 2010, 03:50:26 PM »
The illegals are, no doubt.  They're the worst of the worst from their country, but don't forget about the millions of professionals that come here from all over the world every year.
We welcome all but the majority are individuals that have nothing and looking for a free ride.

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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #257 on: April 04, 2010, 03:52:40 PM »

 Let me get this straight... a Pakistani guy came to America, now he brags about America like he was an American.
 Right there show us that you're not a proud  citizen, No matter country you born you should be proud of your country.
 Americans born.. yes, they are very proud of their country, like me I'm proud of my country.
 You, you are proud of America money, if America goes down tomorrow and Pakistan goes up, you will became proud of Pakistan.
 You are nothing but traitor people like you disgust me.
 That's why you avoid the question. who's the ass now? ::)
 Got go now, i have more important things to do... like to take a sh*t.

you will NOTE the GREATEST fool is the one who thinks he's free!

He still have that accent and he still RUN from his heritage that he is ASHAMED of...Because Pakistan is nothing to be PROUD about.

He got to be PROUD of being here...Because Pakistan is the LAND OF SHIT & PISS

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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #258 on: April 04, 2010, 03:52:44 PM »
By the way Eyeball,

The UNITED STATES is number 13 on the Human Development Index Map.

NOT number one.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index

Norway 0.971 (▲ 1)
 Australia 0.970 (▲ 2)
 Iceland 0.969 (▼ 2)
 Canada 0.966 (▼ 1)
 Ireland 0.965 (▬)
 Netherlands 0.964 (▬)
 Sweden 0.963 (▬)
 France 0.961 (▲ 3)
 Switzerland 0.960 (▬)
 Japan 0.960 (▬)
 Luxembourg 0.960 (▼ 3)
 Finland 0.959 (▲ 1)
 United States 0.956 (▼ 1)

Two things,

I didn't claim the United States was number one.

Considering the countries of the world range from 0.350 and under to 0.971 we're virtually neck and neck with the top countries of the world.
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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #259 on: April 04, 2010, 03:53:21 PM »
We welcome all but the majority are individuals that have nothing and looking for a free ride.
Uh, you don`t get ANY benefits being an illegal citizen.  You don`t even get wage protection.  Illegal Immigrants also pay taxes but get ZERO benefit from them as they don`t get Social Security, Medicaid/Medicare, any type of tax refunds or subsidies and certainly NO welfare.

You have to be a legalized citizen for those things.
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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #260 on: April 04, 2010, 03:54:30 PM »
I realize you weren't talking to me you stupid bastard.  :D 


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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #261 on: April 04, 2010, 03:55:33 PM »
You just like to make shit up ,don't you ?  ;D

haha...

1,046,539 people legally became United States Citizens in 2008 alone (which isn't an easy thing to do, look it up).

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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #262 on: April 04, 2010, 03:56:50 PM »
Uh, you don`t get ANY benefits being an illegal citizen.  You don`t even get wage protection.  Illegal Immigrants also pay taxes but get ZERO benefit from them as they don`t get Social Security, Medicaid/Medicare, any type of tax refunds or subsidies and certainly NO welfare.

You have to be a legalized citizen for those things.
Well they get away from the shit hole they live in and get jobs here even if they are minimum wage more than twice most earn in like Mexico for example so its a upgrade either way.

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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #263 on: April 04, 2010, 03:57:28 PM »
Uh, you don`t get ANY benefits being an illegal citizen.  You don`t even get wage protection.  Illegal Immigrants also pay taxes but get ZERO benefit from them as they don`t get Social Security, Medicaid/Medicare, any type of tax refunds or subsidies and certainly NO welfare.

You have to be a legalized citizen for those things.

Are you claiming that the majority of illegal immigrants contribute more than they take from the United States?
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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #264 on: April 04, 2010, 04:00:10 PM »
haha...

1,046,539 people legally became United States Citizens in 2008 alone (which isn't an easy thing to do, look it up).


Yes and they were all professionals  ::) .
The current law limits to 65,000 the number of aliens who may be issued a visa or otherwise provided H-1B status each fiscal year .

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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #265 on: April 04, 2010, 04:01:19 PM »
Two things,

I didn't claim the United States was number one.

Considering the countries of the world range from 0.350 and under to 0.971 we're virtually neck and neck with the top countries of the world.
Wouldn`t you like to America on the top of that list?  I know I would.
The problem with most people is that they are under the Delusion that America is number one in all areas and therefore nothing needs to change. Love it or Leave it VERSUS Love it and Fix It.  In fact, since they don`t recognize anything wrong, they cannot see they are in fact engaging in REGRESSIVE politics instead of Progressive.

A lot of Capitalistic/Socialistic Hybrid countries are doing the miracle mile on us.  We could be number one perhaps one day, but as long as people keep turning to the Regressive Republicans and Conserva-Dems, we don`t have much chance of being number one in anything.  We can only just keep up.
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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #266 on: April 04, 2010, 04:02:13 PM »
it's sad when recently immigrated individuals are defending their host nation better than the "natives", says a lot about what the leftist owned medias have done in north america over the past decades with their 24/7 brainwashing of the masses.

All we have in this thread are ignorant lefitsts asking more "rights" and too iresponsible to assume the very few DUTIES that are still left they re not even mature enough to support.

What the fuck do you spoiled son of bitches want ? you re living in the best fucking place in the whole fucking world, and you re still whining, when in fact you re living what our ancestors would consider a god's life.

Obviously the West forgot how to properly educate its youths.

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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #267 on: April 04, 2010, 04:05:26 PM »
Wouldn`t you like to America on the top of that list?  I know I would.
The problem with most people is that they are under the Delusion that America is number one in all areas and therefore nothing needs to change. Love it or Leave it VERSUS Love it and Fix It.  In fact, since they don`t recognize anything wrong, they cannot see they are in fact engaging in REGRESSIVE politics instead of Progressive.

A lot of Capitalistic/Socialistic Hybrid countries are doing the miracle mile on us.  We could be number one perhaps one day, but as long as people keep turning to the Regressive Republicans and Conserva-Dems, we don`t have much chance of being number one in anything.  We can only just keep up.


Don't get me wrong, I'm the first to admit we've got problem here (look at my posts on the political board) but moving towards the world standard isn't going to do us any good.  We need to move in the opposite direction, less government, more personal responsibility.
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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #268 on: April 04, 2010, 04:06:39 PM »

Don't get me wrong, I'm the first to admit we've got problem here (look at my posts on the political board) but moving towards the world standard isn't going to do us any good.  We need to move in the opposite direction, less government, more personal responsibility.
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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #269 on: April 04, 2010, 04:07:23 PM »
it's sad when recently immigrated individuals are defending their host nation better than the "natives", says a lot about what the leftist owned medias have done in north america over the past decades with their 24/7 brainwashing of the masses.

All we have in this thread are ignorant lefitsts asking more "rights" and too iresponsible to assume the very few DUTIES that are still left they re not even mature enough to support.

What the fuck do you spoiled son of bitches want ? you re living in the best fucking place in the whole fucking world, and you re still whining, when in fact you re living what our ancestors would consider a god's life.

Obviously the West forgot how to properly educate its youths.
You don`t know anything about American History as you have noted.  You are new here.  Take some time and actually educate yourself on our society and how it came to be.  If you did so, I am 100 percent sure you wouldn`t make the dull and ignorant statements that you thus far have made.  I love the United States, but I see it being overtaken in many areas.  We have ground to gain back and with your line of thinking and many more like you is nothing but a roadblock as you are all for the status quo and REGRESSIVE political solutions. (doubtful that you have any considering you know next to nothing regarding American History and its Economic system)

Wake up.  You are lucky to be here, don`t continue to drag this country down with your Regressive hackneyed politics.
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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #270 on: April 04, 2010, 04:12:16 PM »

Don't get me wrong, I'm the first to admit we've got problem here (look at my posts on the political board) but moving towards the world standard isn't going to do us any good.  We need to move in the opposite direction, less government, more personal responsibility.
What in the blue fuck does that mean?  Honestly.

Our entire tax structure is broken. As I said many times on the Politics board we need a Socialist Progressive Tax system in my opinion- Repealing all current Federal Taxes and installing a National Sales Tax with no tax on used items and necessities such as food and medicine and leaving States the power to add taxes if they see fit and are passed accordingly.

You aren`t going to get this with the Republican Regressive Party, that I assure you.
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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #271 on: April 04, 2010, 04:52:17 PM »
Liberalism and Progressive Thought are the ONLY reason why the door of Capitalism has been opened further to more individuals in the United States.  Either read some American History or scroll back up and read some of my previous posts regarding Blacks, Woman and anyone other than the White Male prior to about 1970 or so.  Capitalism has been a historically closed door system and Liberalism and Progressive Thought is the only thing that has pried that door open.

 And BULLSHIT that "Anyone" can become wealthy.  If that were fuckign even remotely true there would NOT be such of an income Disparity with so few being wealthy and the overwhelming majority not.  You are DEAD WRONG and you proved my point most beautifully. (although you don`t realize it)

I agree that in any system based on a concept of capitalism is never going to be set in stone. Obviously the more intelligent and more advanced a society becomes the more equality in terms of equal rights for women and equal rights for blacks. This is not only ideas advanced by liberals or progressive thoughts it is simply individuals in a society having rational thought regarding such issues. One does not have to have leftist agenda to think in these terms - these ideas are simply rational and throughout the ages many philosophers and intellectuals have had this same thought process.

In your terms then Gandhi who was pro-equality, liberal and socialist argued everyone should be equal lead India (which historically was a rich kingdom) to a more leftist socialist or even sometimes communist regime. Sure his ideas were ideals of what the human race should think, but in practice and economically they will never advance society. India lay dormant with ridiculous draconian leftist policies for years, until finally a more democratic capitalist approach has been accepted - the results speak for themselves (it is now been one of the fastest growing nations in last 20 years). More people have been lifted out of poverty in last 20 years regardless of the huge disparity and inequality of income amongst the people. In-fact India moving to more right wing policies and capitalist approach has now the largest middle class in the world, yet you argue leftist ideals are great economics.

I am not going to say we don't need progressive thought and yes i agree we need liberals to keep the right wing in any system in check but often their is a tipping point. An equilibrium which is achieved with ideal amount of human rights and equality but which allows for economic growth without excessive legal regulation and red-tape.

Regarding the wealth factor, in the USA or most of Europe: any individual has everything in place to succeed. You obviously don't know many Chinese or Indian immigrants as you would understand completely if you did. Check the statistics for yourself, if Indians who are albeit a new addition to American society are the most successful immigrant group. Some of these people have arrived with no education yet their children have much higher mean and median incomes than the general population. However, you argue you cannot make it?

I think like any liberal and with your ideal pursuit for equality, individuals such as yourself truly believe different genetic tribes or races share the same cerebral function. This is certainly not the case, every race which has evolved in various geographical locations are not going to share the same function. Don't get me wrong with all the PC bullshit nowadays we can't say it but every race has certain factors which aid in their survival or success.

You argue that blacks have been kept behind - well i agree but they are a race which is not destined to be successful in a modern cognitive environment - this is a fact. I have done business in Africa many times and make trips to Nairobi regularly, are you saying the blacks their (black government) are limited or not able to progress. Yet still Indians even in Africa seem to own all the businesses, shops and share the majority of wealth.

I feel America has gone too far with progressive thought and has reached a point where it is no longer economically advantageous. The legal system is fraught with excessive costs and with too much complexity. The white middle class was once a glowing beacon of America has become morally corrupt. Progress for equal rights have led to selfish American women (and men of course) leading to record divorce rates and breakdown of family support structure. Children have become so spoiled they think the world owes them something  -you see this will fat, lazy disrespectful youth culture around us. Dumbing down of society though sex obsessed media led to record teenage pregnancies and  individuals wanting things they financially are unable to afford. More people are depressed and addicted to certain medications (a pill to wake up, a pill to be happy and a pill to shit).

You now have a legal system and human rights system leading to many municipalities to bankruptcy (of-course anyone can argue for ideal but economics does not work this way). Crime and violent crime as well as gang culture does not seem decline. Simply put all your leftist ideals have actually been adopted by many Countries in Europe and as you can see most these governments are highly indebted. The UK with socialist government (Labour party) has more people working for the government (nealry 50% of poulation) which has allocated our resources so inefficiently and made us so uncompetitive that they are on the verge of losing their AAA rating.

I see the breakdown of society all around me - don't ge me wrong i still believe in America as they have some of the best educational centers in the entire world but i also as economist i see the values in other races which will aid them to progress faster than the US.

Can i ask where you conducting all your economic studies considering you seem to think various political viewpoints will have such advantageous effects on society. To let you know i have done various papers on ideal systems and have an Economic degree from London School of Economics. I also invest money all around the world on these very ideas on the macro conditions and systems adopted by various Countries in the world. Can i ask where you are getting all these profound knowledge and results from in all your typical google search based assumptions?

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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #272 on: April 04, 2010, 04:53:05 PM »
Oh, you from pakistan ::)

enough said.

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yeah even in pakistan American blacks have a bad name  :-\
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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #273 on: April 04, 2010, 04:54:48 PM »

 Let me get this straight... a Pakistani guy came to America, now he brags about America like he was an American.
 Right there show us that you're not a proud  citizen, No matter country you born you should be proud of your country.
 

did you miss the part where i said there ws a kidnapping attempt on my brother and myself...my brother got shot in the foot and a bullet grazed my dads head....right...its a shithole...

i dont fall for stupid " love the country you were born in" crap...if i did...i'd be a muslim...which i am not....i tend not to follow the herd like yourself...i can think for myself
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Re: Why America is the Greatest Nation on the Planet??
« Reply #274 on: April 04, 2010, 04:58:50 PM »
Name a Wealthy Pakistani from the 1700s until 1970 or so in THE UNITED STATES.



mhy Aunti Feroza and her Husband moved here in the 1960s...or maybe a bit earlier...

her hubby is head of some  american gelogical something..but they r millionaires...all 3 of her children are doctors now
my uncle farooq had an American citizen ship since the 60s ....made a TON of money in America but lived in pakistan...also a millionaire...yanno what he got for living in pakistan (and being friends with Asif Zardari..the current president..former douchebag)....he ws found in his car..gunshot to the head
my grand uncle and his brother BOTH had American citizenships..this is back in the 40s....pre partition of india and pakistan....both made millions doing trade with the brits and kept their $ in American banks..they used to spend as much time in America as they did in pakistan

you just got royalled pwned mizzjizz
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