AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..

[Wiggs]

Kai is in a much less competitive era right now than when Nasser was at his best.  Take Kai today and put him in the major shows from 98 to 99 and he'd never crack top 3 at the AC or top 6 at the Olympia.

Wrong!  I don't buy into that less competitive era BS.  Look at actual pics of the top 6 from 95-99.  The conditioning and size combo is alot better today.
Kai would wipe the floor with everyone except Ronnie.  He would outcondition Wheeler and Cormier and outsize and condition Ray.  He's finally beaten Dexter and outconditions Martinez.

Like Dorian once Kai turned around, the beautiful man with glasses would get destroyed.

[Sherief Shalaby]

 

[Palpatine Q]

That's funny coming from you  

"YAYYYYYYYYYYYY NASSSSSSSSSSEEEERRRRR!!!!!!!!"  

[Wiggs]

great comparision
Are you serious?

[Palpatine Q]

First off....as usual you use a good pic of Nasser versus one where Kai's at a different angle and not fully into the pose yet"

Even so......Pretty much confirms my last post. From the front they are comparable torso wise, slight edge in arms to kai.

Turn them around and Kai makes Nasser look like he's never touched a weight in his life...and legs, no contest. Kai has the best legs i've ever seen

[Sherief Shalaby]

First off....as usual you use a good pic of Nasser versus one where Kai's at a different angle and not fully into the pose yet"

Even so......Pretty much confirms my last post. From the front they are comparable torso wise, slight edge in arms to kai.

Turn them around and Kai makes Nasser look like he's never touched a weight in his life...and legs, no contest. Kai has the best legs i've ever seen

i dont use "certain" pic to prove my claims right as hulkster and ND always do.. i always post the whole thing.. i made this pic. long ago to compare AC winner of 1999 to that of 2009 (after 10 years) to show that bb hasnt improved!!.. kai is a good bb but he has more flaws than the wizard..

[Wiggs]

kai is a good bb but he has more flaws than the wizard..

False

[Palpatine Q]

i dont use "certain" pic to prove my claims right as hulkster and ND always do.. i always post the whole thing.. i made this pic. long ago to compare AC winner of 1999 to that of 2009 (after 10 years) to show that bb hasnt improved!!.. kai is a good bb but he has more flaws than the wizard..

Really.

Nasser's flaws :

Blocky

shit arms

Synthol in delts lats and arms

NO BACK

Long Torso

Short legs

Big head

Egyptian

Douchebag

[NarcissisticDeity]

i dont use "certain" pic to prove my claims right as hulkster and ND always do.. i always post the whole thing.. i made this pic. long ago to compare AC winner of 1999 to that of 2009 (after 10 years) to show that bb hasnt improved!!.. kai is a good bb but he has more flaws than the wizard..

Hahahahaha you're obsessed with me huh? every other post is my name

[NarcissisticDeity]

Kai is in a much less competitive era right now than when Nasser was at his best.  Take Kai today and put him in the major shows from 95 to 99 and he'd never crack top 3 at the AC or top 6 at the Olympia.

To answer your question he beat Flex at the 95 O, 96 O, 96 GP shows and 97 O (Flex lost by default due to backing out)

He didn't beat Flex at the 1996 Mr Olympia , Nasser was disqualified for cheating so he didn't beat him and Nasser never faced Flex in 1997 so he didn't beat Flex in 1997 , your logic is very weak

[Parker]

Kai is in a much less competitive era right now than when Nasser was at his best.  Take Kai today and put him in the major shows from 95 to 99 and he'd never crack top 3 at the AC or top 6 at the Olympia.

To answer your question he beat Flex at the 95 O, 96 O, 96 GP shows and 97 O (Flex lost by default due to backing out)

Sorry, you can't lose something you were never in...

[NarcissisticDeity]

Sorry, you can't lose something you were never in...

Seriously talking about grasping at fucking straws

[mwbbuilder]

No matter what era, Kai would DESTROY Nasser.

I would say Nasser looks a little better from the front relaxed...maybe (just maybe) front double biceps. That's it though.

Everything else is WAY in favor of Kai Greene. Nothing is even CLOSE. Flex looks just as big from the side a Nasser even though Nasser outweighed him by 50 pounds.

Nasser just matches up extremely poorly next to Kai. No question about this one even with the BigBobs spin of reality.

[Wiggs]

No matter what era, Kai would DESTROY Nasser.

I would say Nasser looks a little better from the front relaxed...maybe (just maybe) front double biceps. That's it though.

Everything else is WAY in favor of Kai Greene. Nothing is even CLOSE. Flex looks just as big from the side a Nasser even though Nasser outweighed him by 50 pounds.

Nasser just matches up extremely poorly next to Kai. No question about this one even with the BigBobs spin of reality.

WINNER!!

[beefcakeblake]

WINNER!!

personally I think Nasser would destroy Kai from the front Nasser bigger more conditioned, muscles flow

as for back I don't even think that Kai has a good back but he beats no back Nasser

and side I think that would be close, Nasser has some structural flaws but he is way harder then Kai.

but overall who knows, nasser seemed to always be pushed to 2nd or 3rd because he had more flaws then the rest.

[bigbobs]

WINNER!!

[Palpatine Q]

Lets spin them around..shall we?  

It's getting to the point that every bodybuilder of note is better than Nasser because of the inescapable fact that his back was shitty.

[bigbobs]

Lets spin them around..shall we?  

It's getting to the point that every bodybuilder of note is better than Nasser because of the inescapable fact that his back was shitty.

Nope, because Nasser MORE than compensates by being so far ahead of them in the rest of bodyparts and angles.

[PJim]

the world owes "us" something??!!.. by "us" you mean who?.. arabs and muslims??

yes sure the world owes arabs/muslims a lot, the same it owes other nations!!..

No you moron, team nasser.

[Palpatine Q]

Nope, because Nasser MORE than compensates by being so far ahead of them in the rest of bodyparts and angles.

He looks like a big block of shit in that pic......Mass with No Class, just a pile of grade B muscle topped off with a too-big head 

He's the Branch Warren of the 90's

[the_swami]

Where are the fake calves? And the syn went into the delts...

everyone knows Flex got calf implants
shawn ray challenged Flex to get them ultrasounded and flex refused

[the_swami]

Back to Parker, you said that Cormier deserved to beat Cutler but didn't because he has a bad rep and may have been a woman beater, but there are stories of Dexter beating his wife before and he won the Olympia.  Also stories of Wheeler acting violent to women (he got 5 years probation in one instance), and of course the grapefruit sexer Kai yet that didn't stop him from winning it.  Bannout even  won the Olympia even though he had domestic violence issues for many years.  Samir once even choked Joe Weider in his office and knocked out a British judge after the British Grand Prix which got him a "lifetime" suspension at the time that was later lifted.  When you see these types of instances not holding back some pros from their victories, yet other obvious joke-decisions (like 94 NOC and 97 Olympia), it looks like judges pick and choose depending on numerous factors that are not always clear to outsiders - Nasser has seconded this as well.  

Manion once said to Ronnie Coleman during a guest posing at his yearly Pittsburgh (May) show where Ronnie was guest posing for free, that he had to return to the stage (he had gone backstage after just one minute of guest posing) otherwise Manion threatened to Ronnie that he would not win the next upcoming Mr. Olympia!  Ronnie was told this directly by Manion who went backstage to give him that message personally.  Ronnie hurried up and went back onstage and guest posed for many more minutes.  

Simply BS to assume there are no factors beyond one's physique alone that influence judging decisions!

the voice of truth!

[the_swami]

so many BB fans are so naive - they think that there are no politics in BB judging/heirarchy.

IT IS ALL POLITICS- if you are not ass kissing or pleasing Wayne de milia (when he was in power) or Manion (now) or Weinberger or Peter Mcgough then you are not winning shows or the Olympia.

The best physique on the day often doesnt win shows
Viz:
Flex, olympia 1993
shawn ray olympia 1994
levrone 95 olympia
nasser 96 and 97 olympia
martinez 2007 olympia

[the_swami]

He didn't beat Flex at the 1996 Mr Olympia , Nasser was disqualified for cheating so he didn't beat him and Nasser never faced Flex in 1997 so he didn't beat Flex in 1997 , your logic is very weak

Nasser was not cheating, everyone else in that olympia were using the same diuretics as Nasser.
Nasser was made an example of because of the SNitch Matarazzo.
the IFBB wanted to make it look like thye were testing because of the deaths of momo and munzer
THERE WAS NO ACTUAL DRUG TESTING

[ShipSekki]

 Nasser has done enough steroids and hormones to purchase a private island with a private jet.

 All steroids.