Author Topic: Dorian Yates - overrated!  (Read 269953 times)

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #375 on: April 22, 2010, 06:33:39 PM »
I don't think they are arguing because they don't like me, they are arguing because, as I said, to admit the 99 stuff is unenhanced would be admitting dorian was not as good.

because anyone can see that he was not up to that level.

that 99 photoshoot vid just adds more evidence to the mountain.

great vid.
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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #376 on: April 22, 2010, 06:35:36 PM »
NONE of them look like that screencap.  :-\

Ok, lets pretend that screencap was actually "enhanced". Still doesn't change how great Ronnie was in 1999 as opposed to that video you posted first.

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #377 on: April 22, 2010, 06:40:04 PM »
I don't think they are arguing because they don't like me, they are arguing because, as I said, to admit the 99 stuff is unenhanced would be admitting dorian was not as good.

because anyone can see that he was not up to that level.

that 99 photoshoot vid just adds more evidence to the mountain.

great vid.

Yes, that is probably the true reason. As all of the people saying those vids/pics are enhanced are Dorian fans......(with the exception of that photographer maybe)

And that video is indeed great.  8)

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #378 on: April 22, 2010, 06:41:58 PM »
Ok, lets pretend that screencap was actually "enhanced". Still doesn't change how great Ronnie was in 1999 as opposed to that video you posted first.
I never argued he didnt look great. He was still off from 98. He was fuller but slightly less conditioned.
This started because Hulkster tried to crucify ND for posting shopped pics, when it was Bizzy that shopped that Dorian pic, and it was HULKSTER who was constantly posting the shopped pics from Bizzy. This has nothing to do with me arguing about how good Ronnie was in 99. Its about Hulkster being a fucking delusional hypocrite, so stop trying to defend him when you dont even know wtf the conversation is about.

Oh, and after Kevin Horton embarrassed Hulkster about those pics, Hulkster suddenly said "Yeah, I know they were contrasted, see bizzy said so"  ::)

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #379 on: April 22, 2010, 06:42:55 PM »
Yes, that is probably the true reason. As all of the people saying those vids/pics are enhanced are Dorian fans......(with the exception of that photographer maybe)

And that video is indeed great.  8)
You don't even know wtf im arguing with Hulkster about, yet you jump in and try and defend him. Lol. And you call us nut huggers.  ::)

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #380 on: April 22, 2010, 06:44:28 PM »
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Hulkster suddenly said "Yeah, I know they were contrasted, see bizzy said so"

I have posted links in the past to the very posts where bizzy talked about this before...

so don't even go there..

the proof will own you yet again
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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #381 on: April 22, 2010, 06:47:23 PM »
You don't even know wtf im arguing with Hulkster about, yet you jump in and try and defend him. Lol. And you call us nut huggers.  ::)

he is not defending me.

he is refuting the ridiculous notion that the Ronnie 99 vids and screenshots floating around out there are faked.

big difference.
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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #382 on: April 22, 2010, 06:51:01 PM »
You guys apparently just don't like Hulkster and for that reason are denying Ronnie looked as good as he did in 1999.

Two great quality videos (1999 photoshoot and prejudging) have been posted that show how good Ronnie's conditioning, detail and separations were in 1999 and you still argue just because you don't like Hulkster.



Hahahahaha you're a funny gimmick  ;D Ronnie looked awesome in 1999 , it's not his best by a long shot and still not on par with Yates

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #383 on: April 22, 2010, 06:53:27 PM »
I don't think they are arguing because they don't like me, they are arguing because, as I said, to admit the 99 stuff is unenhanced would be admitting dorian was not as good.

because anyone can see that he was not up to that level.

that 99 photoshoot vid just adds more evidence to the mountain.

great vid.

There is NO argument , there is US showing everyone you're wrong on all your points  ;)

you've posted worked pics of a very long time now , morphed and sharpened there is NO argument it's a fact and you're denying it

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #384 on: April 22, 2010, 06:55:34 PM »
You don't even know wtf im arguing with Hulkster about, yet you jump in and try and defend him. Lol. And you call us nut huggers.  ::)

He's a gimmick he's posted in the Truce thread and knows they whole ' argument ' the best part is he's defending Hulkster and the 99 screencaps it's probably Bizzy LMFAO he disappeared after Kevin Horton exposed him lol poor Hulkster was forced to take all the embarrassment himself

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #385 on: April 22, 2010, 07:22:48 PM »
I have posted links in the past to the very posts where bizzy talked about this before...

so don't even go there..

the proof will own you yet again
What proof? You never told anyone that the pics you posted were shopped, until you got called on it.

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #386 on: April 22, 2010, 08:01:46 PM »
What proof? You never told anyone that the pics you posted were shopped, until you got called on it.

thats because they were never shopped in the first place.

how can I get called for posting photoshopped pics when the pics I posted (from Bizzy) were not even shopped? ::)

also, where did you come up with the fact that Bizzy photoshopped that dorian pic?
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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #387 on: April 22, 2010, 08:03:10 PM »
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Ronnie looked awesome in 1999 , it's not his best by a long shot

not his best by a long shot?

you obviously have not watched any of the videos posted in this thread.. ::)

oh wait, you have but you are in total denial as usual. :-\
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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #388 on: April 22, 2010, 08:03:32 PM »
 It's official, Ronnie wins! The judge has spoken......

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #389 on: April 22, 2010, 08:04:03 PM »
thats because they were never shopped in the first place.

how can I get called for posting photoshopped pics when the pics I posted (from Bizzy) were not even shopped? ::)

also, where did you come up with the fact that Bizzy photoshopped that dorian pic? he never did that one.
Yes, he did.
He sharpened those Ronnie pics you repeatedly posted, then once Horton called you on it, you backtracked. Your memory is fucking astounding. Bizzy was sharpening pics, and he said something to the effect of, here ill do a few of Dorian to show what sharpening does to his pics. Selective memory, Hulkster.

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #390 on: April 22, 2010, 08:05:43 PM »
Yes, he did.
He sharpened those Ronnie pics you repeatedly posted, then once Horton called you on it, you backtracked. Your memory is fucking astounding. Bizzy was sharpening pics, and he said something to the effect of, here ill do a few of Dorian to show what sharpening does to his pics. Selective memory, Hulkster.

no, my memory is correct

you are wrong. he did play around with dorian shots, but they were screenshots from the 93 vid.

the shot ND posted that was photoshopped was a pic, not a screenshot, from the 95 or 96 olympia.


you should know by now that I am never wrong. :P
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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #391 on: April 22, 2010, 08:06:23 PM »
not his best by a long shot?

you obviously have not watched any of the videos posted in this thread.. ::)

oh wait, you have but you are in total denial as usual. :-\
Youre the one in denial, you ruckin fetard.
Ronnie Coleman HIMSELF has stated that 98 was his best several times. (Oh, and hint, its not the night he won the show, cause hes gonna say he was better last year. Lol)
Btw, Ronnie is fuller in 99 but not as dry.
Mass+conditioning+Balance=win 98 Ronnie would beat 99 Ronnie everytime. He was DRYER.
But I guess you know better than Ronnie himself, right Hulkster?

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #392 on: April 22, 2010, 08:08:56 PM »
 as stated you think because ronnie said it it has to be true even though all the pics and videos show he was clearly better in 1999?

 ::)

how stupid.

I guess you believed ronnie when he said he never tore his lat or his quad, and also believed him when he said he was still an active police officer when he wasn't...the list goes on..

 ::)
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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #393 on: April 22, 2010, 08:32:58 PM »
as stated you think because ronnie said it it has to be true even though all the pics and videos show he was clearly better in 1999?

 ::)

how stupid.

I guess you believed ronnie when he said he never tore his lat or his quad, and also believed him when he said he was still an active police officer when he wasn't...the list goes on..

 ::)

No, someone speaking on what their best is vs them not wanting to know theyre injured is a fucking pathetic analogy Hulkster. What possible motivation would he have for lying? That has to be in the top 10 dumbest things you have ever said in your long Getbig History.


As far as the pics and video, another top 10 idiocy award right there. Newflash genius, Judging isnt done via pics and videos, and when I see the video of 98, I see the drier, more conditioned Ronnie. Just because you think he looks better doesnt make it proof you pompous prick (not to mention your obsession blinds you to reality). Last time I checked no one in the BB industry claimed you as an expert. Lol.

But I guess, you know, your opinion is better than Ronnie's cause you were there to see him, right? No, wait, you must actually be Ronnie! Thats it huh? Thats why you dont think his opinion matters! Thats why youre always trying to tell everyone what he "really" meant when he said Dorian would probably win right (if he competedi in 98)?  That must be why you try and argue with an industry photographer and think you "proved him wrong", with absolutley no proof to your name, right? Hot damn it all makes sense now! Bahahaha. Your a tool Hulkster, a pathetic tool. Maybe youll get lucky and Ronnie will finally accept your invitation to enter your anal cavity, and you can finally end this sick obsession. :-\

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #394 on: April 22, 2010, 09:00:31 PM »
That pretty much sums it up  ;D

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #395 on: April 22, 2010, 09:54:21 PM »
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As far as the pics and video, another top 10 idiocy award right there. Newflash genius, Judging isnt done via pics and videos, and when I see the video of 98, I see the drier, more conditioned Ronnie. Just because you think he looks better doesnt make it proof you pompous prick (not to mention your obsession blinds you to reality). Last time I checked no one in the BB industry claimed you as an expert. Lol

what is so funny is that you talk about experts, well, Peter McGough (guy hero) believes Ronnie was better in 99 than in 98 (as per his article about the best ever Mr. O's)

and he was there.

what do you say to that? LOL

fucking owned.
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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #396 on: April 23, 2010, 01:52:17 AM »
what is so funny is that you talk about experts, well, Peter McGough (guy hero) believes Ronnie was better in 99 than in 98 (as per his article about the best ever Mr. O's)

and he was there.

what do you say to that? LOL

fucking owned.

what is so funny is that you talk about experts , well, Peter McGough ( corrector of fanboys ) believes Ronnie was harder & drier in 98 than in 99 ( as per many times he's gone on recored )

in his article about the best ever Mr. O's he states 2001 is his best showing hands down

what do you say to that? LOL

fucking owned.



While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.


He also said this but you dismissed him as wrong LMFAO now he's right HYPOCRITE

you're owned as usual dumbass

Ronnie 1999 = fail

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #397 on: April 23, 2010, 01:58:16 AM »
as stated you think because ronnie said it it has to be true even though all the pics and videos show he was clearly better in 1999?

 ::)

how stupid.

I guess you believed ronnie when he said he never tore his lat or his quad, and also believed him when he said he was still an active police officer when he wasn't...the list goes on..

 ::)


The old Ronnie is a liar bit huh? Ronnie is a liar according to you every single time except when he said right after the 1999 Olympia he was better than last year but then he got it all right lmao HYPOCRITE

facts are Ronnie was harder & drier in 1998 and his best showing was 2001 ASC , keep denying them it's all you have left  ;)

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #398 on: April 23, 2010, 01:59:36 AM »
No, someone speaking on what their best is vs them not wanting to know theyre injured is a fucking pathetic analogy Hulkster. What possible motivation would he have for lying? That has to be in the top 10 dumbest things you have ever said in your long Getbig History.


As far as the pics and video, another top 10 idiocy award right there. Newflash genius, Judging isnt done via pics and videos, and when I see the video of 98, I see the drier, more conditioned Ronnie. Just because you think he looks better doesnt make it proof you pompous prick (not to mention your obsession blinds you to reality). Last time I checked no one in the BB industry claimed you as an expert. Lol.

But I guess, you know, your opinion is better than Ronnie's cause you were there to see him, right? No, wait, you must actually be Ronnie! Thats it huh? Thats why you dont think his opinion matters! Thats why youre always trying to tell everyone what he "really" meant when he said Dorian would probably win right (if he competedi in 98)?  That must be why you try and argue with an industry photographer and think you "proved him wrong", with absolutley no proof to your name, right? Hot damn it all makes sense now! Bahahaha. Your a tool Hulkster, a pathetic tool. Maybe youll get lucky and Ronnie will finally accept your invitation to enter your anal cavity, and you can finally end this sick obsession. :-\

Great post !

damn Hulkster is getting battered over the head with the club of logic  ;D

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #399 on: April 23, 2010, 06:42:08 AM »
Dorian went out on top, knew when to quit. Ronnie got beat by a fridge then even worse got what, 4th the next year. Ronnie as dry as Yates? Dont make me laugh, he had great muscle separation and was ripped but never grainy like Yates. Not a huge fan of either but Ronnie's pregnant look is an abomination to everything bb is about.