Dorian Yates - overrated!

[Hulkster]

Well what is it Hulkster? Agree with Mcough and you pretty much admit youve been talking out of your ass about him the whole time. Go ahead, please agree with him. That will make everything you ever said about Mcough wrong.

actually it wouldn't.

because some things McGough said are corroborated (do you guys even know what that word means ) by the pics and videos. these points I agree with as they are supported by evidence.

some things he says I do not agree with because they are, well, silly, and totally disproven by all pics and videos. an example of this was his infamous gem about how dorian weeks out from a contest was 'much harder than ronnie ever was'.

that is just plain stupid .

so no, anyone can agree with some things he has said and disagree with others.

it doesn't have to be all or nothing like you seem to claim.

and why the hell would it? LOL

not sure where you came up with  this gem. lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

okay, since none of you nuthuggers are intelligent enough to understand my post, I will make it simple for you and do it at a grade 3 level for you:

1. you claim that because ronnie says 98 is his best that it is automatically true.
2. Peter McGough disagrees with this.
3. You all love to quote McGough as proof
4. but you don't seem to care that he is in direct contradiction of your own claim about Ronnie 98..

 

understand now?

 

feels like I am fucking baby sitting dealing with people that are just not too bright..

1) it's not only Ronnie said it once it's the fact that he's said it repeatedly
2) McGough doesn't agree with this in fact he said he was harder & drier in 1998
3) McGough said multiple occasions 1999 is NOT his best , 2001 was
4) McGough plus the slew of others along with pics and video confirm this
5) you're hopelessly lost and in way over your head
6) the experts all agree 98 and 01 are his best showings , you have NO no room for argument

you're stupid , among the dumbest people on this sight and probably on the internet

[NarcissisticDeity]

actually it wouldn't.

because some things McGough said are corroborated (do you guys even know what that word means ) by the pics and videos. these points I agree with as they are supported by evidence.

some things he says I do not agree with because they are, well, silly, and totally disproven by all pics and videos. an example of this was his infamous gem about how dorian weeks out from a contest was 'much harder than ronnie ever was'.

that is just plain stupid .

so no, anyone can agree with some things he has said and disagree with others.

it doesn't have to be all or nothing like you seem to claim.

and why the hell would it? LOL

not sure where you came up with  this gem. lol

the old he's right when I need him and wrong when I don't plea 

can always count on you to be wrong and a hypocrite

default position pics and videos don't lie and after looking at them you claimed Yates lost in 93 to Flex , you know what again? 

[Hulkster]

McGough doesn't agree with this in fact he said he was harder & drier in 1998

but he said in his article about the best Mr. O's that ronnie's 99 olympia physique was the best he has ever looked on an olympia stage.

1998 no where to be found.

he does prefer the AC look over 99, but as far as 98 vs 99 goes, McGough is ALL 99.

much to your dismay as usual. and you hang on every word this guy says, whether it is backed up by visuals or not.

you never have been able to think for yourself, have you?

if McGough said that Jocelyn Pelletier was better than Ronnie Coleman 99, well, you would believe that too and probably try and argue for 200 pages about it, denying that the pics are valid etc etc

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

but he said in his article about the best Mr. O's that ronnie's 99 olympia physique was the best he has ever looked on an olympia stage.

1998 no where to be found.

he does prefer the AC look over 99, but as far as 98 vs 99 goes, McGough is ALL 99.

much to your dismay as usual. and you hang on every word this guy says, whether it is backed up by visuals or not.

you never have been able to think for yourself, have you?

if McGough said that Jocelyn Pelletier was better than Ronnie Coleman 99, well, you would believe that too and probably try and argue for 200 pages about it, denying that the pics are valid etc etc

 

but he said in his article about the best Mr. O's that ronnie's 99 olympia physique was the best he has ever looked on an olympia stage.

1998 no where to be found.

he does prefer the AC look over 99, but as far as 98 vs 99 goes, McGough is ALL 99.

has absolutely NOTHING to due with the fact he's not as hard or as dry as he was in 99 compared to 98 , which he's gone on record as saying multiple times , he may have liked 99 better has nothing to do with if he was harder or drier , and in fact he outright says 2001 is his best but you claim he's wrong , hypocrite

ALL the experts agree his best was 2001 and NOT 1999 so you're fucked either way , stupid 

[Shockwave]

but he said in his article about the best Mr. O's that ronnie's 99 olympia physique was the best he has ever looked on an olympia stage.

1998 no where to be found.

he does prefer the AC look over 99, but as far as 98 vs 99 goes, McGough is ALL 99.

much to your dismay as usual. and you hang on every word this guy says, whether it is backed up by visuals or not.

you never have been able to think for yourself, have you?

if McGough said that Jocelyn Pelletier was better than Ronnie Coleman 99, well, you would believe that too and probably try and argue for 200 pages about it, denying that the pics are valid etc etc

 

Hahaha, Youre so fucking sad.
A. I NEVER quote Mcough. Thats just something you wish.
B. Youre grasping at straws because youre backed into a corner, Visuals ARE NOT proof. Its a video. Its not quality. No one that has seen the O's call 99 the best. No one. 98, and 01. Not  99. You are trying to rewrite history to fit your opinion, and its sad. You have straight up said the dumbest shit Ive ever heard come out of your mouth in this thread. lol.
C. Get it through your head. PICS AND VIDEOS ARE NOT EVIDENCE. Yes, they can confirm things like "ronnie looked awesome that year" But you cannot judge a contest by them. Thats retarded. Otherwise judges wouldnt even bother to show up. You know this. You just are backed into a corner.
D. Dont be mad no one agrees with you but some internet fan boys. You are after all, an internet fanboy. Its in your nature.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hahaha, Youre so fucking sad.
A. I NEVER quote Mcough. Thats just something you wish.
B. Youre grasping at straws because youre backed into a corner, Visuals ARE NOT proof. Its a video. Its not quality. No one that has seen the O's call 99 the best. No one. 98, and 01. Not  99. You are trying to rewrite history to fit your opinion, and its sad. You have straight up said the dumbest shit Ive ever heard come out of your mouth in this thread. lol.
C. Get it through your head. PICS AND VIDEOS ARE NOT EVIDENCE. Yes, they can confirm things like "ronnie looked awesome that year" But you cannot judge a contest by them. Thats retarded. Otherwise judges wouldnt even bother to show up. You know this. You just are backed into a corner.
D. Dont be mad no one agrees with you but some internet fan boys. You are after all, an internet fanboy. Its in your nature.

Another monumentally retarded Hulksterism , he stated he's just as qualified to judge an entire contest sitting on home using pics & video as the judges are live and in person lol

he's trapped and knows it. he'll cling to this notion the masses of ignorant fans on a message board who never saw any contests are right and the scores of experts who were actually live and in attendance and who know exactly what they are looking for and at are wrong

Hulkster knows he's fucked and he thinks by clinging to the story he wont look as dumb lol fat chance

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hulkster is constantly and consistently wrong it's mind boggling how wrong he is and how often

1.) he's wrong stating 1999 was Ronnie's best showing
2.) he's wrong stating he was harder in drier in 99 than 98 and 01
3.) he's wrong stating Ronnie 99 was more grainy than Dorian ever was
4.) he's wrong stating Ronnie's calves were more detailed than Dorians
5.) he's wrong stating 1998 wasn't a close contest
6.) he's wrong stating 1994 was
7.) he's wrong stating Ronnie dominated in 2001 by losing the whole prejudging
8.) he's wrong stating Ronnie was aesthetic
9.) he's wrong stating 2001 wasn't controversial but 1994 was
10.) he's wrong stating Ronnie had better balance than Dorian
11.) he's wrong stating Dorian was the most overrated bodybuilder ever
12.) he's wrong stating all the experts are wrong and he is right
13.) he's wrong stating you can judge contests via pics & video just as good as the pros in person
14.) he's wrong stating Dorian's arm sucked after he only tore the bicep
15.) he's wrong stating Ronnie was harder & drier than Dorian ever was
16.) he's wrong stating Dorian pics are morphed
17.) he's wrong stating some of Bizzy's screencaps weren't sharpened
18.) he's wrong stating I run from him ( page 21 on this thread   )
19.) he's wrong stating Kevin Horton ran from him
20.) he's wrong stating he knows how contests are judged
21.) he's wrong stating only a few people think Dorian is better
22.) he's wrong stating pics and video don't lie
23.) he's wrong stating Ronnie dominated more than Dorian did
24.) he's wrong stating Dorian only won against smaller guys
25.) he's wrong stating Dorian only had a good back and calves
26.) he's wrong stating Dorian only looked standing alone
27.) he's wrong stating Dorian shouldn't have won post-tear
28.) he's wrong stating Shawn beats Dorian in a back pose
29.) he's wrong stating the judging was fixed for Dorian but not Ronnie
30.) he's wrong stating Ronnie's gut was smaller than Dorians


I mean I can honestly continue for a while but I digress , he knows nothing and he's wrong constantly it's insane how wrong he is and how often.

[Shockwave]

Hulkster is constantly and consistently wrong it's mind boggling how wrong he is and how often

1.) he's wrong stating 1999 was Ronnie's best showing
2.) he's wrong stating he was harder in drier in 99 than 98 and 01
3.) he's wrong stating Ronnie 99 was more grainy than Dorian ever was
4.) he's wrong stating Ronnie's calves were more detailed than Dorians
5.) he's wrong stating 1998 wasn't a close contest
6.) he's wrong stating 1994 was
7.) he's wrong stating Ronnie dominated in 2001 by losing the whole prejudging
8.) he's wrong stating Ronnie was aesthetic
9.) he's wrong stating 2001 wasn't controversial but 1994 was
10.) he's wrong stating Ronnie had better balance than Dorian
11.) he's wrong stating Dorian was the most overrated bodybuilder ever
12.) he's wrong stating all the experts are wrong and he is right
13.) he's wrong stating you can judge contests via pics & video just as good as the pros in person
14.) he's wrong stating Dorian's arm sucked after he only tore the bicep
15.) he's wrong stating Ronnie was harder & drier than Dorian ever was
16.) he's wrong stating Dorian pics are morphed
17.) he's wrong stating some of Bizzy's screencaps weren't sharpened
18.) he's wrong stating I run from him ( page 21 on this thread   )
19.) he's wrong stating Kevin Horton ran from him
20.) he's wrong stating he knows how contests are judged
21.) he's wrong stating only a few people think Dorian is better
22.) he's wrong stating pics and video don't lie
23.) he's wrong stating Ronnie dominated more than Dorian did
24.) he's wrong stating Dorian only won against smaller guys
25.) he's wrong stating Dorian only had a good back and calves
26.) he's wrong stating Dorian only looked standing alone
27.) he's wrong stating Dorian shouldn't have won post-tear
28.) he's wrong stating Shawn beats Dorian in a back pose
29.) he's wrong stating the judging was fixed for Dorian but not Ronnie
30.) he's wrong stating Ronnie's gut was smaller than Dorians


I mean I can honestly continue for a while but I digress , he knows nothing and he's wrong constantly it's insane how wrong he is and how often.

Hes right about 1 thing, Ronnie did look amazing and was a great bodybuilder.

[Hulkster]

LOL ND is completely melting down.

holy pyscho Jack Torrence style post..

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL ND is completely melting down.

holy pyscho Jack Torrence style post..

In typical Hulkster fashion when you can't counter this , don't even try , for all the empty claims you make that I run from you all you're doing is projecting and in fact it's you who runs from me and the facts , just because you respond doesn't mean you're not running  

lets add to that post about about the pathetic tactics you supplement your ignorance with , fallacious arguments , such as argumentum ad populum , ad hominem attacks , argument by emotive language , argument by generalization , argument by half truth , argument by laziness , argument by pigheadedness , argument by repetition , argument by selective observation , argument by vehemence , all of the fallacious arguments YOU have use repeatedly , I know you don't know what many of them are , go look them up    

now lets add in your proven sharpened screencaps from 1999 and your morphed pictures and we have textbook Hulkster   repetition isn't working for you kid and neither are your fallacious arguments.  

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hes right about 1 thing, Ronnie did look amazing and was a great bodybuilder.

I agree , Ronnie at his best is fucking amazing.

[ShipSekki]

 This is crazy. I never thought this thread would go this long. I never knew there was this Dorian and Coleman war going on.

 Ronnie Coleman is much better than Dorian. You're crazy if you think Dorian is better.

[NeoSeminole]

[NarcissisticDeity]

as predicted 

never expected to see you in another Yates thread lol the same cast of characters thanks for proving me right troll number 2

[Shockwave]

LOL ND is completely melting down.

holy pyscho Jack Torrence style post..

Uh oh, poor Hulksters backed into a corner and is starting to see his whole arguement is based on nothing but the fact he likes 99's look better.
No competitors think 99 was his best.
No judges think 99 was his best.
Ronnie himself doesnt think 99 was his best.
Hulkster is judging a contest based on some 10 year old vid and screencaps from that vid.
Lol.
BTW, I just watched a shitton of Ronnie 99 vids and pics. None of them looke like the 99 vids you use. The white guys in your vids look orange for fucks sake.

Yeah really matches up to your vids.

Same. Lol. Doesnt match up to your vids.  

98 Ronnie. Look at his dryness. Best hes ever been.

[NeoSeminole]

as predicted

never expected to see you in another Yates thread lol the same cast of characters thanks for proving me right troll number 2

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Yes!

[Hulkster]

Ronnie Coleman is much better than Dorian. You're crazy if you think Dorian is better.

and stupid.

if you don't know bodybuilding, you would think dorian is better.

if you do, you realize its not even close.

[Hulkster]

BTW, I just watched a shitton of Ronnie 99 vids and pics. None of them looke like the 99 vids you use. The white guys in your vids look orange for fucks sake.

bullshit:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3w9ak_ronnie-coleman-1999-mr-olympia-part_sport

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/ronnie-coleman-1999-mr-olympia-part-two/1160132027

the prejudging video is not faked. fuck, I used to have the VHS version and it looked the same.

 just drop it. you are looking more and more stupid the more you keep up this fantasy global conspiracy bullshit .

[NarcissisticDeity]

bullshit:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3w9ak_ronnie-coleman-1999-mr-olympia-part_sport

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/ronnie-coleman-1999-mr-olympia-part-two/1160132027

the prejudging video is not faked. fuck, I used to have the VHS version and it looked the same.

 just drop it. you are looking more and more stupid the more you keep up this fantasy bullshit.

You like the moron you are post a link to the guy who is in question LMFAO here the screencaps in question from Bizzy aren't fake here follow this linke to Bizzy's video LMMFAO

you in all honesty are among the dumbest people I've ever encountered

[Hulkster]

I posted three different clips, are you going to argue they are all three are from Bizzy?

LOL

 

go back to your flowershop loser.

bizzys vid matches the other two independent vids, thus verifying the authenticity of the clip.

which we really should not have to do in the first place, because you two idiots are the only people on the whole fucking planet that insist it is faked..

[NarcissisticDeity]

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troll on it's expected 

[Hulkster]

you in all honesty are among the dumbest people I've ever encountered

say what you want, but the fact is you work for a flower company and are probably gay, so that makes me far above you no matter what.

hahahahhahahaaha

[NarcissisticDeity]

I posted three different clips, are you going to argue they are all from Bizzy?

LOL

 

go back to your flowershop loser.

I know they are.

getting frustrated huh Hulkster? as usual you're in way over your head and looking for a way out.

funny thing is before Bizzy ever posted his screencaps , forcedreps posted a ton of unworked 99 screencaps which you could have posted but NO you liked Bizzy's better

in fact Kevin Horton used forcedreps screencaps as a gauge to show you there was an obvious difference from Bizzy's lol you liked the sharpened ones better and it came back to haunt you lol

I'm still laughing at here's a link to show Bizzy's screencaps aren't worked , it's a link to Bizzy's video LMMFAO