Dorian Yates - overrated!

[NarcissisticDeity]

say what you want, but the fact is you work for a flower company and are probably gay, so that makes me far above you no matter what.

hahahahhahahaaha

Let's say I do work at a flower shop and I were gay , you're still among the dumbest people I've ever encountered 

it changes nothing you're still wrong constantly regardless of my orientation , you think your ad homenim attack changes that? I don't need to stoop to your level to own you  it's a last ditch effort of a frustrated man

[Hulkster]

I'm still laughing at here's a link to show Bizzy's screencaps aren't worked , it's a link to Bizzy's video

along with two other independent sources, thus verifying his clip.

understand? retard?

I am getting frustrated because you lack the mental capacity to see that the clip has been verified as legit.

there is nothing I can do if you still don't get it.

just continue in your world of ignorance.

and the rest of us will continue to laugh at your guy anti Ronnie 99 global conspiracy theories..

[Hulkster]

Let's say I do work at a flower shop and I were gay

in other words, I do..

[Shockwave]

bullshit:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3w9ak_ronnie-coleman-1999-mr-olympia-part_sport

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/ronnie-coleman-1999-mr-olympia-part-two/1160132027

the prejudging video is not faked. fuck, I used to have the VHS version and it looked the same.

 just drop it. you are looking more and more stupid the more you keep up this fantasy global conspiracy bullshit .

Fuck your bullshit!
Explain why those vids don't match up to any of the pics, or any of the other vids out there?
Huh?
You cant! You're whole "Video proof" doesnt mean shit when it doesnt match up to any pics or other vids.
Mr Corroborating evidence my fucking ass. lol  
Oh btw, who agrees with youu that 99 was his best showing? Oh wait, no one!
Looks like youre full of shit again Hulkster.

Another vid that doesnt match up with your "Proof"
Lol. And trying to argue you "used to have the VHS vid". Lol. Cause, since you dont have it means you can compare the two. You are PATHETIC hulkster! Pathetic!

[Shockwave]

along with two other independent sources, thus verifying his clip.

understand? retard?

I am getting frustrated because you lack the mental capacity to see that the clip has been verified as legit.

there is nothing I can do if you don't get it.

just continue in your world of ignorance.

No, not verified, becuase ALL of the 1999 O clips you post are the same length, same everything, meaning they were just uploaded different places, you dolt. Nothing matches up to the other vids, so your "proof" is again just bullshit. So GTFO with your bullshit. lol.

[NeoSeminole]

troll on it's expected

[Hulkster]

hahaha Flowerboy and Cockwave are melting down because their anti ronnie conspiracy theories have been proven wrong for the 4 billionth time!

oh wait, they have been getting proven wrong since they day this stuff first showed up on the web.

forcedreps owned your stupid asses years ago.

I own your stupid asses more recently about the same shit.

and you continue to deny LOL


 

[dr.chimps]

24 pages!? I wonder if ND and Hulkster have dreams about being unable to find the 'reply' button the way the rest of us have those dreams where we're unprepared for an exam?   

[Hulkster]

used to have the VHS vid

only because I threw out my VCR.

this is the 2000's. its not the 1970's anymore.

VHS tapes are extinct.

DVD is the way to go. oh wait, you nuthuggers claimed forcedreps DVD stuff was fake also.

thats right. I should post his classic owning of you all once again.

you might want to read it again. it still true to this day.

as sad and hard as that is to believe.

its incredible that a group of people could STILL think the 99 stuff is faked.

oh wait, you have to. thats right. your acceptance is your admission of defeat because anyone can see dorian was not up to that level.

[Hulkster]

24 pages!? I wonder if ND and Hulkster have dreams about being unable to find the 'reply' button the way the rest of us have those dreams where we're unprepared for an exam?   

ND's dreams involve a bouquet of roses from his place of work, some lube and dorian's asshole..

[Shockwave]

hahaha Flowerboy and Cockwave are melting down because their anti ronnie conspiracy theories have been proven wrong for the 4 billionth time!

oh wait, they have been getting proven wrong since they day this stuff first showed up on the web.

forcedreps owned your stupid asses years ago.

I own your stupid asses more recently about the same shit.

and you continue to deny LOL


 

Hahah!
Why dont you try and actually answer rather than attempting to proclaim victory or claiming meltdown?
Oh yeah, because you cant.
Experts dont agree with you.
Competitors dont agree with you.
RONNIE FUCKING COLEMAN doesnt agree with you,
And now, even the videos dont agree with you. LOL.

Maybe rather than trying to appeal to the reading asking for justification (Thats what youre doing, "please everyone come tell me how right I am") you should actually try and defend yourself? Oh wait, you CANT. hahahah. Your sad, sad, sad hulkster. just sad. Oh, yeah forcedreps, good thing he came on here for 2 secs and disappeared, he really "Proved" something. hahaha. Especially cause NO other videos look like the one he put up. lol.

[Shockwave]

only because I threw out my VCR.

this is the 2000's. its not the 1970's anymore.

VHS tapes are extinct.

DVD is the way to go. oh wait, you nuthuggers claimed forcedreps DVD stuff was fake also.

thats right. I should post his classic owning of you all once again.

you might want to read it again. it still true to this day.

as sad and hard as that is to believe.

its incredible that a group of people could STILL think the 99 stuff is faked.

oh wait, you have to. thats right. your acceptance is your admission of defeat because anyone can see dorian was not up to that level.

Oh wait, your "hero" forcedreps shit doesnt match up to ANY other medium out there. No pics, no vids, no nothing match up to his vids.
Therefore, YOU are the odd man out Hulkster. So go fuck your sister. 

[Shockwave]

Still waiting on your explanation, Hulkster.... 
Your "real" Vid.
Lol.

Other vids

- LOL. Yep, matches up great.

Sure looks the same to me. 

Yup, flex sure looks the same as in your vid. 

Again, looks the same to me! 

Misc Pics from 99 O

Conclusion - Again Hulkster, your "video proof" doesnt match up to reality. Looks like your the one full of shit.

[NarcissisticDeity]

along with two other independent sources, thus verifying his clip.

understand? retard?

I am getting frustrated because you lack the mental capacity to see that the clip has been verified as legit.

there is nothing I can do if you still don't get it.

just continue in your world of ignorance.

and the rest of us will continue to laugh at your guy anti Ronnie 99 global conspiracy theories..

They're not independent , they're from the man in question. you're to stupid to check your sources because you were frantically trying to find anything that helps your falling case

watch & learn stupid

first link you provided read the read the text added

Parts of the 1999 Mr. Olympia prejudging that include Ronnie Coleman.1999 is often overlooked as being Coleman's best physique. He was 10-12 pounds heavier than the 1998 Mr. O and 2001 Arnold Classic and more aesthetic, proportioned and defined than when he dominated in 2003. One well respected writer described his condition in 1999 as a walking anatomy chart.

second link you provided ( dailymotion which clearly shows it's a video from Bizzy dumbass ) read the text added

Parts of the 1999 Mr. Olympia prejudging that include Ronnie Coleman.
1999 is often overlooked as being Coleman's best physique. He was 10-12 pounds heavier than the 1998 Mr. O and 2001 Arnold Classic and more aesthetic, proportioned and defined than when he dominated in 2003. One well respected writer described his condition in 1999 as a walking anatomy chart.

wow same text from the same guy , so much for being independent when it clearly states it's from Bizzy you moron and here's another screencap to your ' independent ' source you moron


Here's the best part I'm not saying the video is fake what I'm saying is , it doesn't look like others that have been posted and ANYTHING from Bizzy can't be trusted , you're fucked as usual and again among the dumbest people on here and on the internet

Here's a link to an independent source LMMFAO and it says Bizzy03 LMFFAO epci backfire stupid

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

24 pages!? I wonder if ND and Hulkster have dreams about being unable to find the 'reply' button the way the rest of us have those dreams where we're unprepared for an exam?   

According to the dumbest person on GetBig I always rin from him , now you know why his title fits 

[Shockwave]

They're not independent , they're from the man in question. you're to stupid to check your sources because you were frantically trying to find anything that helps your falling case

watch & learn stupid

first link you provided read the read the text added

Parts of the 1999 Mr. Olympia prejudging that include Ronnie Coleman.1999 is often overlooked as being Coleman's best physique. He was 10-12 pounds heavier than the 1998 Mr. O and 2001 Arnold Classic and more aesthetic, proportioned and defined than when he dominated in 2003. One well respected writer described his condition in 1999 as a walking anatomy chart.

second link you provided ( dailymotion which clearly shows it's a video from Bizzy dumbass ) read the text added

Parts of the 1999 Mr. Olympia prejudging that include Ronnie Coleman.
1999 is often overlooked as being Coleman's best physique. He was 10-12 pounds heavier than the 1998 Mr. O and 2001 Arnold Classic and more aesthetic, proportioned and defined than when he dominated in 2003. One well respected writer described his condition in 1999 as a walking anatomy chart.

wow same text from the same guy , so much for being independent when it clearly states it's from Bizzy you moron and here's another screencap to your ' independent ' source you moron


Here's the best part I'm not saying the video is fake what I'm saying is , it doesn't look like others that have been posted and ANYTHING from Bizzy can't be trusted , you're fucked as usual and again among the dumbest people on here and on the internet

Here's a link to an independent source LMMFAO and it says Bizzy03 LMFFAO epci backfire stupid

BAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Oh man hulkster, youre done. Put a fork in ya.

[NarcissisticDeity]

BAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!  
Oh man hulkster, youre done. Put a fork in ya.

 

He posts a fucking link to Bizzy's work and then says it's ' independent ' I mean how fucking stupid can one human be?

and his partner Bizzy is another genius hosting the video under different names and using the exact same description . these two = dumb & dumber

Hulkster should learn his lesson , stay the fuck out of Yates threads it always ends badly for him.

[Shockwave]

He posts a fucking like to Bizzy's work and then says it's ' independent ' I mean how fucking stupid can one human be?

and his partner Bizzy is another genius hosting the video under different names and using the exact same description . these two = dumb & dumber

Hulkster should learn his lesson , stay the fuck out of Yates threads it always ends badly for him.

The best is I posted half a dozen vids that look nothing like Bizzy's vids, and Hulkster was try to appeal to the masses. lol.
One of these things is not like the other...... 

[NarcissisticDeity]

The best is I posted half a dozen vids that look nothing like Bizzy's vids, and Hulkster was try to appeal to the masses. lol.
One of these things is not like the other...... 

yeah it's the last ditch effort of someone who has nothing else to offer.

[NeoSeminole]

lmao, Hulkster laying the smackdown on the nuthuggers. Go Hulkster! Go!

Skaaaadooooossshhh

[JP_RC]

You're missing the point of all those lighter guys who beat the heavier ones , they were ALL in better condition than their counterparts , when contests are close 99.9% of the time the deciding factor is who is harder & drier

Ronnie lighter is still NOT as hard or as dry as a heavier Dorian or as balanced , Dorian simply meets ALL of the criteria better than Ronnie

Dorian at his best is harder & drier than Ronnie at his all the while carrying more muscular bulk and being better balanced now factor in posing & presentation and it's Dorian for the W

for the sake of argument lets say Ronnie at his best equaled Dorian in conditioning it would be at a lighter weight and worse balance & proportion and posing & presentation , so again Dorian for the W

You're missing the point of all those lighter guys who beat the heavier ones , they were ALL in better condition than their counterparts , when contests are close 99.9% of the time the deciding factor is who is harder & drier

Ok, I get your point here and agree. I was the fact that they were better conditioned and were better in balance & proportion and symmetry too.
Wouldn't you say that in the 94 Olympia Shawn had all these things over Dorian except muscular bulk?

Ronnie lighter is still NOT as hard or as dry as a heavier Dorian or as balanced , Dorian simply meets ALL of the criteria better than Ronnie

Dorian at his best is harder & drier than Ronnie at his all the while carrying more muscular bulk and being better balanced now factor in posing & presentation and it's Dorian for the W

for the sake of argument lets say Ronnie at his best equaled Dorian in conditioning it would be at a lighter weight and worse balance & proportion and posing & presentation , so again Dorian for the W

I could see a 98 or 99 Ronnie equalling Dorian in conditioning. I don't think Dorian had better balance & proportions than Ronnie. Ronnie's weren't perfect, but still better than a 1995 Dorian (since you guys say this was his best).
Both of them were good as far as maintaining the mandatory poses and neither were very good as far as posing routines go. Posing is equal in my mind.

I see conditioning and posing being equal.
Let's say Dorian has an advantage on muscular bulk.
Ronnie has an advantage on balance & proportions and symmetry.
And if things as muscle shape, muscle development and separations are taken into account, then Ronnie would win.

[JP_RC]

NO symmetry in the bodybuilding context is a LOT more than it seems and different people have different meanings for the whole of symmetry , perfect example

Lee Priest

HOW DO YOU FEEL DORIAN WOULD FAIR AGAINST RONNIE COLEMAN NOW?

I think Dorian at his best (1993) would easily beat Ronnie. Dorian might not be as symmetrical as Ronnie, but all over he was more complete and in better condition at his best.

Lee Priest saying Dorian might not be as ' symmetrical ' as Ronnie and under this context he means , small waist , small hips , small joints which is part of the reason why Flex was known as " The Sultan of Symmetry "

And here is Bev Francis raving about Dorian's symmetry being almost perfect , in her context she means , everything in proportion , his great balance and no weak bodyparts , they both have great ' symmetry ' but it depends on what context you're talking

And symmetry in the bodybuilding context doesn't mean left/right exactness because NOTHING in nature is symmetrical , people have strong arms so they'll always be bigger than the right or left depending how which you are , you can taper Coleman's arms and both will NOT measure exactly the same or be exactly the same shape

And even with one bicep shorter than another this does not negate his other advantages in torso length , arm length in relation to the torso , leg length , leg length in relation to the torso , proportions between the muscles , calves to quads , hams to quads , glutes ( which Ronnie's are grossly oversized and can be seen from the front NOT symmetrical or proportionate ) forearms in proportion to biceps & triceps it's the entire package to say Dorian's shorter bicep compromises the entirety is foolish

Dorian's leg balance in better it's really not open for discussion , his calves match his quads better than Ronnie's and his glutes don't stick out so far they can be seen from the front and the hamstrings which Dorian's mate better to his quads , this is especially noticeable in profile and the heavier Ronnie became the worse this issue because for him , his quads dominated the calves and hams

I disagree again MIND YOU AT HIS BEST Dorian's arm balance is better , Ronnie's biceps & triceps are leaps & bounds ahead of his forearms , which are shaped like bowling pins and aren't in proportion with the overwhelming size of his upper arms , again the heavier Ronnie became the worse this issue became old news

see above more to proportions than a shorter bicep than the other , and yes after 1993 Dorian had ' good proportions ' the sole exception to this was 1997 where his physique was probably at it's worse and I disagree about his pecs , they never looked flat any year  

NO symmetry in the bodybuilding context is a LOT more than it seems and different people have different meanings for the whole of symmetry , perfect example

Lee Priest

HOW DO YOU FEEL DORIAN WOULD FAIR AGAINST RONNIE COLEMAN NOW?

I think Dorian at his best (1993) would easily beat Ronnie. Dorian might not be as symmetrical as Ronnie, but all over he was more complete and in better condition at his best.

Lee Priest saying Dorian might not be as ' symmetrical ' as Ronnie and under this context he means , small waist , small hips , small joints which is part of the reason why Flex was known as " The Sultan of Symmetry "

And here is Bev Francis raving about Dorian's symmetry being almost perfect , in her context she means , everything in proportion , his great balance and no weak bodyparts , they both have great ' symmetry ' but it depends on what context you're talking

And symmetry in the bodybuilding context doesn't mean left/right exactness because NOTHING in nature is symmetrical , people have strong arms so they'll always be bigger than the right or left depending how which you are , you can taper Coleman's arms and both will NOT measure exactly the same or be exactly the same shape

Its interesting to see how subjective symmetry actually is.
Bodybuilding is subjective, that's why so many people sometimes disagree with judging decisions and "controversial" contests exist.
I think you're the only person I've ever heard that thinks there is no such thing.

see above more to proportions than a shorter bicep than the other , and yes after 1993 Dorian had ' good proportions ' the sole exception to this was 1997 where his physique was probably at it's worse and I disagree about his pecs , they never looked flat any year 

I don't think the torn biceps alone hurt his proportions. After 1993 I always saw his back/torso overpower his whole arms, quads and sometimes even delts. These "flaws" were even more pronounced on years like 1994 and 1997. I always saw his back as his best muscle group, but I didn't see the rest match up. This is why I think his proportions were not good.

In 94 and 97, I saw his chest being a little flat and narrow compared to his massive and extremely wide back.

[JP_RC]

Wow how 5 years ago 

Bev Francis : Bodybuilder's phsyique you most admire ?

The man Dorian Yates , his combonation of size and shape makes for an awesome physique , unlike a lot of big guys he's not a load of massive parts just thrown together , His symmetry is almost perfect , Everything is in proportion , no weak bodyparts .

She's an IFBB judge whose opinion you think carries more weight? how about these remarks from people on Ronnie?

Vic Richards on Romano & Palumbo radio show 2010.

" To say Ronnie Coleman is the best bodybuilder is an insult , he doesn't even come in the top 12 "

Q ] When people talk of the greatest Olympian's Ronnie's name is usually high on the list. In fact, he is widely regarded as the best bodybuilder of all time.


[ A ] I hate to say this but they are blind. People that don't approve of what we are talking about right now are blind. You have to understand. Look, Ronnie Coleman is probably the most muscular bodybuilder ever. If he could have drawn a better picture of himself on the stage he would have had more appeal, but he did not. He makes himself look worse. I


they work both ways  I can post more if you'd like?

Wow how 5 years ago 

lol, you constantly post quotes that are older than this one.

they work both ways  I can post more if you'd like?

Exactly what I was trying to show you. You're the one that loves quotes not me.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ok, I get your point here and agree. I was the fact that they were better conditioned and were better in balance & proportion and symmetry too.
Wouldn't you say that in the 94 Olympia Shawn had all these things over Dorian except muscular bulk?

I could see a 98 or 99 Ronnie equalling Dorian in conditioning. I don't think Dorian had better balance & proportions than Ronnie. Ronnie's weren't perfect, but still better than a 1995 Dorian (since you guys say this was his best).
Both of them were good as far as maintaining the mandatory poses and neither were very good as far as posing routines go. Posing is equal in my mind.

I see conditioning and posing being equal.
Let's say Dorian has an advantage on muscular bulk.
Ronnie has an advantage on balance & proportions and symmetry.
And if things as muscle shape, muscle development and separations are taken into account, then Ronnie would win.

Ok, I get your point here and agree. I was the fact that they were better conditioned and were better in balance & proportion and symmetry too.
Wouldn't you say that in the 94 Olympia Shawn had all these things over Dorian except muscular bulk?

No I wouldn't say any of that and in fact I've already elaborated to the contrary on exactly why

I could see a 98 or 99 Ronnie equalling Dorian in conditioning. I don't think Dorian had better balance & proportions than Ronnie. Ronnie's weren't perfect, but still better than a 1995 Dorian (since you guys say this was his best).
Both of them were good as far as maintaining the mandatory poses and neither were very good as far as posing routines go. Posing is equal in my mind.

Ronnie 99 doesn't touch Dorian's conditioning in 95 , he maybe came close in 98 but 99 sorry. I've already explained why Dorian has better balance & proportion and why Dorian was a better poser

I see conditioning and posing being equal.
Let's say Dorian has an advantage on muscular bulk.
Ronnie has an advantage on balance & proportions and symmetry.
And if things as muscle shape, muscle development and separations are taken into account, then Ronnie would win.

conditioning isn't equal and neither is posing , Dorian would have an advantage in bulk and balance & proportion , and things like muscle shape? again Ronnie has some clear advantages and so does Dorian , how about calf shape? ab shape? lat shape? forearm shape? I mean it works both ways , development? see what I just typed , separations again see what I just typed

all of that assumed criteria you just typed can be applied to Flex Wheeler who lost to Dorian who has far superior shape than Dorian and Ronnie it's whole meets ALL of the criteria the best would win and you've already tried to minimize Dorian's advantages to claim a Ronnie victory based on what you see not on what the judges would see