Dorian Yates - overrated!

[NarcissisticDeity]

Yates was good at the time but hasn't held the test of the time. He had a edge in size and conditioning over everyone else. He's a gimmick, he just looks like a freak even compared to Ronnie or Gutler. Ronnie always looks good even when his size isn't the greatest, Yates just looks like an over glazed turkey.

Sure he does which is the same reason why Ronnie insists he wouldn't ever beat the Turkey  which is why his era is lauded as the pinnacle of conditioned mass and high quality competition to this day

[Immortal_Technique]

You say the precontest footage as if it's from a contest bwahaha. Epic difference in lighting in a changing room. You know it, I know it.

[Lundgren]

Sure he does which is the same reason why Ronnie insists he wouldn't ever beat the Turkey  which is why his era is lauded as the pinnacle of conditioned mass and high quality competition to this day

It was a better era because there weren't so many gh guts. Of course ronnie's gonna  say it. How else can he explain loosing to him. Do you think he'd admit to upping the dosage?

[NarcissisticDeity]

You say the precontest footage as if it's from a contest bwahaha. Epic difference in lighting in a changing room. You know it, I know it.

How you can't make the difference between pre and contest is beyond me  I said it was PRE-contest never implying it was from a contest , and epic lighting in a changing room? it was in a gym and he wasn't under contest lights , had no tan or oil and still looked outstanding

[NarcissisticDeity]

It was a better era because there weren't so many gh guts. Of course ronnie's gonna  say it. How else can he explain loosing to him. Do you think he'd admit to upping the dosage?

loosing to him?    it was better specifically because of the conditioning

[Hulkster]

LOL at Cockwave.

you post two blurry youtube videos, a 'video' that is nothing but a series of still pics, and some photage of the final decision as your 'proof' that the prejudging video is faked. oh, and that other video of the prejudging only helps the ronnie side because he looks FANTASTIC in those poses and blows dorian away. not sure who shot that vid, it doesn't appear to be the IFBB.

are you an idiot?

 

none of those videos show that the prejudging vid in question is faked. because none of them show the prejudging clip looking any different than the three vids I posted. you posted all different clips.

still don't get it do you?

you can't show a clip is fake by posting entirely different clips and saying the other one is fake.


in the words of Forced Reps:

If you want show how great your idol is/was use facts and don't come up with stupid excuses about faked vids/pics etc...., this let you guys just look like retarded internet fanboys

take his advice buddy.

[Hulkster]

Yup. Still a long way off from what Hulkster posted.
Especially, (ironically) because he said they were 2 "independant" sources, and it wound up being the same guy "bizzy" who sharpened the pics. Lol.

LOL its a fucking backstage photoshoot!! not an onstage contest clip!
 what do you expect? LOL

holy shit you are desperate.

you are getting owned here left right and center. its fun to watch though.

desperate men do stupid things. that much is obvious.

[NarcissisticDeity]

desperate men do stupid things. that much is obvious.

yeah like post links to the fucking guy you're claiming isn't the one in question

[Shockwave]

LOL its a fucking backstage photoshoot!! not an onstage contest clip!
 what do you expect? LOL

holy shit you are desperate.

you are getting owned here left right and center. its fun to watch though.

desperate men do stupid things. that much is obvious.

Me? Youre the one claiming its from 2 independant sources, when the videos dont match up to ANY other vids on the web, and low and behold, its from the same guy, and even funnier, its from BIZZY!!!! Hahahah!!! Sounds like youre the one desperate to me.
One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just doesnt belong. lol.
Me getting owned? stop projecting you worthless POS. By fun to watch, you mean, I cant say anything because I just got proven wrong all over the place and now the only thing I can do is try and shift the attention away from me, than yes. lol.
Hell you cant even put together a logical response anymore. Lol.
Good work on your 2 "independant sources" btw, definatley NOT bizzy the sharpener. HAHAHAHAH!!!!

[Shockwave]

LOL at Cockwave.

you post two blurry youtube videos, a 'video' that is nothing but a series of still pics, and some photage of the final decision as your 'proof' that the prejudging video is faked. oh, and that other video of the prejudging only helps the ronnie side because he looks FANTASTIC in those poses and blows dorian away. not sure who shot that vid, it doesn't appear to be the IFBB.

are you an idiot?

 

none of those videos show that the prejudging vid in question is faked. because none of them show the prejudging clip looking any different than the three vids I posted. you posted all different clips.

still don't get it do you?

you can't show a clip is fake by posting entirely different clips and saying the other one is fake.


in the words of Forced Reps:

take his advice buddy.

HAHAAH! You and forcereps. Little desperate now, arent you?
Yeah, the vid I posted of the prejudging looks absolutley NOTHING like Bizzys (<---LOL!!!) vids, not to mention if you look at the pic compilation video, its not even close. Sorry Hulkster, I know youre desperate, but its over for you.
Nail in the coffin was your "2 independant sources" Lololol.
Oh wait, maybe its the plethora of Experts, judges, and competitors, not to mention people in attendance, that agreed with you claim of 99 being his best.
Really hulkster, this is fucking pathetic to watch. Delusional!
BTW, youd come off sounding less desperate if you actually had an argument, rather than just saying "Stop saying its fake! Wah! Wah!! Forcedreps said so!!" ESPECIALLY when its not even forcedreps vids. Lololol

[NeoSeminole]

You say the precontest footage as if it's from a contest bwahaha. Epic difference in lighting in a changing room. You know it, I know it.

he won't admit the lighting actually favors Dorian b/c this would weaken his argument. There's a reason why bodybuilders usually look more impressive when they take pre-contest pics, for example in a kitchen or the gym. The lighting comes from directly above which creates dramatic shadows and the bodybuilders aren't covered in posing oil which detracts from the "dry" look. However, ND purposely acts clueless and tries to peddle Dorian's gym shots as at a disadvantage to contest pics

[NarcissisticDeity]

he won't admit the lighting actually favors Dorian b/c this would weaken his argument. There's a reason why bodybuilders usually look more impressive when they take pre-contest pics, for example in a kitchen or the gym. The lighting comes from directly above which creates dramatic shadows and the bodybuilders aren't covered in posing oil which detracts from the "dry" look. However, ND purposely acts clueless and tries to peddle Dorian's gym shots as at a disadvantage to contest pics

Look what little puppy is looking for master's attention again  

the lighting affects his muscular balance? proportion? the lighting affects his muscular bulk? it weakens nothing even if it were true.

and his conditioning is legendary on-stage and off in fact better than Ronnies.

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.

[NarcissisticDeity]

HAHAAH! You and forcereps. Little desperate now, arent you?
Yeah, the vid I posted of the prejudging looks absolutley NOTHING like Bizzys vids, not to mention if you look at the pic compilation video, its not even close. Sorry Hulkster, I know youre desperate, but its over for you.
Nail in the coffin was your "2 independant sources" Lololol.
Oh wait, maybe its the plethora of Experts, judges, and competitors, not to mention people in attendance, that agreed with you claim of 99 being his best.
Really hulkster, this is fucking pathetic to watch. Delusional!

lmfao ' independent source '

another example of Hulkster stupidity

[NarcissisticDeity]

Me? Youre the one claiming its from 2 independant sources, when the videos dont match up to ANY other vids on the web, and low and behold, its from the same guy, and even funnier, its from BIZZY!!!! Hahahah!!! Sounds like youre the one desperate to me.
One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just doesnt belong. lol.
Me getting owned? stop projecting you worthless POS. By fun to watch, you mean, I cant say anything because I just got proven wrong all over the place and now the only thing I can do is try and shift the attention away from me, than yes. lol.
Hell you cant even put together a logical response anymore. Lol.
Good work on your 2 "independant sources" btw, definatley NOT bizzy the sharpener. HAHAHAHAH!!!!

Just another example of when Hulkster is thoroughly owned he doesn't even respond to the post , he thinks by ignoring it it will go away lol

his independent source is his original source LMFAO

" look to prove Bizzy's sceencaps aren't worked check out this link " to Bizzy's work LMMFAO

[NeoSeminole]

Look what little puppy is looking for master's attention again

lol, I wasn't even talking to you. My post was direct to Immortal_Technique.

the lighting affects his muscular balance? proportion? the lighting affects his muscular bulk? it weakens nothing even if it were true.

epic not grasping the concept of favorable lighting

and his conditioning is legendary on-stage and off in fact better than Ronnies

and this means what? We're not comparing Dorian to King Kamali. We're comparing Dorian to a prime Ronnie, who holds his own in the conditioning department. So your argument about conditioning means shit

lmao @ 6-weeks out and using "conditioning" as a point in favor of Dorian compared to a prime-conditioned Ronnie

[NarcissisticDeity]

lol, I wasn't even talking to you. My post was direct to Immortal_Technique.

epic not grasping the concept of favorable lighting

and this means what? We're not comparing Dorian to King Kamali. We're comparing Dorian to a prime Ronnie, who holds his own in the conditioning department. So your argument about conditioning means shit

lmao @ 6-weeks out and using "conditioning" as a point in favor of Dorian compared to a prime-conditioned Ronnie

lol I wasn't even talking to you. My post was direct to Immortal_Technique.

you were talking about me , looking for my attention again

epic not grasping the concept of favorable lighting

the guy who took the photos said they were ' technically terrible ' but I'm sure he's just lying too and he can't grasp ' favorable lighting ' either  Dorian would look eons better in comparison with contest lighting a tan and oil

and this means what? We're not comparing Dorian to King Kamali. We're comparing Dorian to a prime Ronnie, who holds his own in the conditioning department. So your argument about conditioning means shit

of course it means shit to you , Dorian's conditioning was always better than Ronnies it's old news , when he's heavier when he's lighter it's all the same

lmao @ 6-weeks out and using "conditioning" as a point in favor of Dorian compared to a prime-conditioned Ronnie

Dorian's size & conditioning have not been equaled , let's say Ronnie did equal it for the sake of argument ( and that's being kind ) it was always at his lightest bodyweights so it's NO advantage , Shawn Ray had great conditioning and lacked behind in mass/balance/proportion so you lose as usual

[Hulkster]

LOL Flowerboy and Cockwave are still going on about how they think the 1999 olympia prejudging clip is faked  

even though everyone who has the dvd or vhs knows that it isn't. and people who have it have verified this many times over the last few years.

nevermind all the clips I posted verifying that its real..

this has been going on for years now and they are still just as clueless as day one..

they keep bringing it up because they know its there only chance to save their good but not as good hero from the physique that is Ronnie Coleman 1999.

and in parting, one more classic gem from ForcedReps, the first man to put the nuthuggers in their place over this silly conspiracy theory:

How can you say stuff like ***HERE IS THE ENTIRE ROUTINE AND IN NO WAY DO THEY MATCH THE PICS HULKSTER HAS BEEN POSTING SINCE PAGE 18***

Are you blind ?

yes ForcedReps, they are. and stupid too.

[Hulkster]

another classic FR quote. I laugh at how stupid you must look to people viewing your posts about these clips. especially those who own or have owned the contest on tape or dvd.

That was the source for my screenshots, yeah I know GMV ( producers of the olympia tapes/DVD's ) have faked the olympia video too that all the yates fanboys like you and NarcissisticDeity etc.... have something to bitch   

yes, they maintain the faked video theory.

its right up there with the 9/11 was an inside job theory, I would say LOL

 

[Mr.1derful]

no, it would make him laugh and wonder why a nationals level competitor is onstage with the pros:



 

Ironic, considering the guy to Yates' right, who is getting supremely owned. lol  

[NeoSeminole]

you were talking about me , looking for my attention again

sorry to burst your pretty bubble with floral designs, but no. I was directing my post to Immortal_Technique

the guy who took the photos said they were ' technically terrible ' but I'm sure he's just lying too and he can't grasp ' favorable lighting ' either Dorian would look eons better in comparison with contest lighting a tan and oil

lol, stop... just stop. If this were true, then how come every pic you post is an offstage photo? "Technically terrible" means shit. I could take a "technically terrible" pic of me in my kitchen with my phone and look 10x more impressive than under bright stage lights with posing oil

of course it means shit to you , Dorian's conditioning was always better than Ronnies it's old news , when he's heavier when he's lighter it's all the same

Ronnie's conditioning at his prime was better than Dorian's

Dorian's size & conditioning have not been equaled , let's say Ronnie did equal it for the sake of argument ( and that's being kind ) it was always at his lightest bodyweights so it's NO advantage , Shawn Ray had great conditioning and lacked behind in mass/balance/proportion so you lose as usual

Ronnie's size, conditioning, symmetry, fullness, and aesthetics have not been equaled. This trumps size and conditioning

[Shockwave]

Hahah!
If anyones melting down Hulkster, its you, cause youre precisous vids dont match up to reality.
Melting down so badly that youre quoting and talking to someone that posted here 1 time?
And you believe him, why, becuase no one would ever lie on teh internet?! Oh noeeess!!
Besides, DBag, those vids youre freaking our about arent even forcedreps. Theyre Bizzy's.
Sad and pathetic, my friend. lol.
Lol. You are the one melting, your whole arguemnt is going out the window, fast.
No experts.
No Competitors
No judges.
And a video that doesnt match any pics or any other vids of the show.
Ummm.... Sorry dude. Your  "proof", isnt. Hahahahahaha

[Shockwave]

another classic FR quote. I laugh at how stupid you must look to people viewing your posts about these clips. especially those who own or have owned the contest on tape or dvd.

yes, they maintain the faked video theory.

its right up there with the 9/11 was an inside job theory, I would say LOL

 

Are you actually holding a convo with someone who isnt here right now? Whoa dude.. your seriously losing it. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

sorry to burst your pretty bubble with floral designs, but no. I was directing my post to Immortal_Technique

lol, stop... just stop. If this were true, then how come every pic you post is an offstage photo? "Technically terrible" means shit. I could take a "technically terrible" pic of me in my kitchen with my phone and look 10x more impressive than under bright stage lights with posing oil

Ronnie's conditioning at his prime was better than Dorian's

Ronnie's size, conditioning, symmetry, fullness, and aesthetics have not been equaled. This trumps size and conditioning

sorry to burst your pretty bubble with floral designs, but no. I was directing my post to Immortal_Technique

I never said you weren't I said you were talking about me , learn to pay attention.

lol, stop... just stop. If this were true, then how come every pic you post is an offstage photo? "Technically terrible" means shit. I could take a "technically terrible" pic of me in my kitchen with my phone and look 10x more impressive than under bright stage lights with posing oil

WRONG every pic I post isn't off-stage , again pay attention I posted a pic of Yates from that 96 German GP compared to Ronnie 2001 , so wrong again. I post the 93 precontest pics because I personally believe it's the best he's ever looked ( along with precontest 95 )

Technically terrible means shit to you because you need it to , go take your cell phone pics in your kitchen and we'll see how hard and grainy you appear , we'll all be waiting for them too . And the other supplemental  fact you're overlooking is the testimony that comes along with the pics on how great is conditioning was . opppppsssssss forgot that little caveat of information huh? McGough's claim he could enter the Olympia six-weeks out and still win the contest , or Horton's claim he would have been in the top 3 in hardness and unmatched in thickness and size

Ronnie's conditioning at his prime was better than Dorian's

Well you consider his ' prime ' to be 2003 and that's laughable to claim than , but I love you blanket statement with nothing to back up the empty claim , come back when you have some proof

Ronnie's size, conditioning, symmetry, fullness, and aesthetics have not been equaled. This trumps size and conditioning

another blanket statement , and you forgot the clear advantage in balance & proportion , and posing & presentation , of lets not forget completeness

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL Flowerboy and Cockwave are still going on about how they think the 1999 olympia prejudging clip is faked  

even though everyone who has the dvd or vhs knows that it isn't. and people who have it have verified this many times over the last few years.

nevermind all the clips I posted verifying that its real..

this has been going on for years now and they are still just as clueless as day one..

they keep bringing it up because they know its there only chance to save their good but not as good hero from the physique that is Ronnie Coleman 1999.

and in parting, one more classic gem from ForcedReps, the first man to put the nuthuggers in their place over this silly conspiracy theory:

yes ForcedReps, they are. and stupid too.

You're trying to use ForcedReps to defend Bizzy's sharpened screencaps LMMFAO this just keep getting better , post another link to an ' independent source ' again lol

first the independent source , now you're using another person's retort to defend someone else lmfao you can;t get any more dumb if you tried. 

[NeoSeminole]

I never said you weren't I said you were talking about me , learn to pay attention.

on the contrary, you need to learn to pay attention. You seem to be struggling with the concept that my post wasn't directed to you. If I wanted your attention, then I would specifically address my post to you - not to another poster

WRONG every pic I post isn't off-stage , again pay attention I posted a pic of Yates from that 96 German GP compared to Ronnie 2001 , so wrong again. I post the 93 precontest pics because I personally believe it's the best he's ever looked ( along with precontest 95 )

brah, don't lie. 9/10 pics you post of Dorian are <surprise surprise> offstage pics. Spare me your excuse about him looking his best before a contest. According to you, his conditioning improved up until the day of the show and stage lighting and posing oil make bodybuilders look more impressive (again, according to you). So, following your logic, Dorian should look even better in contest pics. You're trying to be deceitful by saying the offstage pics of him in favorable lighting actually make him look worse. If anything, the B&W shots of him in the gym make him look better than how he really looked.

Technically terrible means shit to you because you need it to , go take your cell phone pics in your kitchen and we'll see how hard and grainy you appear , we'll all be waiting for them too . And the other supplemental  fact you're overlooking is the testimony that comes along with the pics on how great is conditioning was . opppppsssssss forgot that little caveat of information huh? McGough's claim he could enter the Olympia six-weeks out and still win the contest , or Horton's claim he would have been in the top 3 in hardness and unmatched in thickness and size

no, technically terrible means shit b/c bodybuilders use the same 'terrible techniques' in the kitchen, in front of a bathroom mirror, or at the gym