Dorian Yates - overrated!

[NarcissisticDeity]

where are the quotes comparing Dorian to an 01 ASC or 03 Mr Olympia Ronnie?

you can't compare Dorian and Ronnie at their peak if the quotes you use came BEFORE Ronnie's peak, lol

looks like somebody needs to go back to grade school and learn what grammatical conjunctions are.

but: indicates a contrast or exception

Heath said 98 was good but 03 was even better.

where are the quotes comparing Dorian to an 01 ASC or 03 Mr Olympia Ronnie?

you can't compare Dorian and Ronnie at their peak if the quotes you use came BEFORE Ronnie's peak, lol

looks like somebody needs to go back to grade school and learn what grammatical conjunctions are.

Where are the quotes comparing Ronnie to Dorian 1993 precontest or Dorian 1995 precontest , your semantic games are always destined to fail. And I just posted a score of people who feel 1998 was his peak so they're NOT before his peak and in fact Ronnie said 1998 was his peak so you're no where

Heath said 98 was good but 03 was even better.

he didn't say 98 was good , he said for me 98 and 03 but even entertaining for a moment he omitted 98 and said 03 this changes what? Ronnie said 98 THREE times , Weider , Alves , Ray , so your still fucked

looks like somebody needs to go back to grade school and learn what grammatical conjunctions

okay Mr Verbatim 

[NarcissisticDeity]

way to go, brah! I said acceptance speeches and you post a quote after he lost

are you blind? seriously?

Ronnie has always been humble in his interviews and acceptance speeches

you said humble in his INTERVIEWS and acceptance speeches , I posted clear evidence per your criteria of INTERVIEWS and speeches that he was less than humble


kid you're getting lost here 

lol I said in his acceptance speeches AND HIS FUCKING INTERVIEWS lmfao dumbass

[NeoSeminole]

Where are the quotes comparing Ronnie to Dorian 1993 precontest or Dorian 1995 precontest , your semantic games are always destined to fail. And I just posted a score of people who feel 1998 was his peak so they're NOT before his peak and in fact Ronnie said 1998 was his peak so you're no where

lol, quotes that say Ronnie has the best physique ever are all inclusive - they don't need to specify which version of Dorian they are comparing to

he didn't say 98 was good , he said for me 98 and 03 but even entertaining for a moment he omitted 98 and said 03 this changes what? Ronnie said 98 THREE times , Weider , Alves , Ray , so your still fucked

not really. You're comparing apples to oranges. Just b/c Joe Weider may feel Ronnie in 98 had the greatest physique of all-time doesn't mean another guy who thinks 98 Ronnie would lose to Dorian also thinks 98 is Ronnie's prime

[NeoSeminole]

are you blind? seriously?

hahaha, the quote you posted is right after his loss. That is the exact opposite of an acceptance speech, lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

hahaha, the quote you posted is right after his loss. That is the exact opposite of an acceptance speech, lol

I know when it was and so do you but you but you also included INTERVIEWS Neo it's gotta suck being you always trying to find a way out of your own stupidity 

[NeoSeminole]

sure they do what else are you gonna say? you can't counter Ronnie saying he wouldn't beat Dorian no matter what word game you try

the general consensus is 1998 was his best Olympia showing and 01 his best showing ever. what matters is the quotes were NOT before his prime which you claimed so in the end Neo is walking down fail stree all alone once again

lol, sure. Rather than continuing this retarded argument, I'll just let your words stand and others can pass judgment.

[NarcissisticDeity]

lol, quotes that say Ronnie has the best physique ever are all inclusive - they don't need to specify which version of Dorian they are comparing to

not really. You're comparing apples to oranges. Just b/c Joe Weider may feel Ronnie in 98 had the greatest physique of all-time doesn't mean another guy who thinks 98 Ronnie would lose to Dorian also thinks 98 is Ronnie's prime

lol, quotes that say Ronnie has the best physique ever are all inclusive - they don't need to specify which version of Dorian they are comparing to

sure they do  what else are you gonna say? you can't counter Ronnie saying he wouldn't beat Dorian no matter what word game you try

not really. You're comparing apples to oranges. Just b/c Joe Weider may feel Ronnie in 98 had the greatest physique of all-time doesn't mean another guy who thinks 98 Ronnie would lose to Dorian also thinks 98 is Ronnie's prime

the general consensus is 1998 was his best Olympia showing and 01 his best showing ever. what matters is the quotes were NOT before his prime which you claimed so in the end Neo is walking down fail stree all alone once again

[NarcissisticDeity]

lol, sure. Rather than continuing this retarded argument, I'll just let your words stand and others can pass judgment.

retarded argument? there is NO argument Ronnie's stated many times he couldn't touch Dorian , Check mate 

[Hulkster]

.....because his conditioning was NOT negligible it was noticeably off , just because you can't see it doesn't mean its not.

 

bull fucking shit.

it wasn't noticably off it was almost identical if not MORE ripped in 99. thats why you can't see it. and he was 10 pounds bigger with quads so much more sliced that Lonnie Teper pointed them out specifically in his Ironman mag review of the contest. those that still have the magazine can verify.

hell, even McGough comments on how ripped ronnie was in 1999 in his article:

a good read, notice he feels 99>> 98

ND's savior and hero even says 1999> 1998

but he does prefer his AC look over either of them:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_7_23/ai_n15346614/

In his first defense of the Mr. O title, Coleman exhibited size, condition and sinew-splitting fullness he lacked a year earlier. At 257 pounds, he was so separated that he looked like a walking anatomy chart. That being said, I still think he achieved his best-ever physique for the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic.

notice: Mcgough even points out that ronnie was more ripped and fuller than the year before.

notice: 1998 is NOT on his list. and for good reason.

he was much better in 99 .


and McGough realizes this. its right there in print.

and its driving ND nuts.

the article he wishes was never written. LOL

[NeoSeminole]

Peter McGough thinks 01 ASC > 99 Mr O > 98 Mr O

but ND claims 98 is Ronnie's prime

[Hulkster]

Peter McGough thinks 01 ASC > 99 Mr O > 98 Mr O

but ND claims 98 is Ronnie's prime

yup. and these morons are spending pages arguing that it is. even against all the videos and pics that show otherwise. and their hero McGough's opinon. LOL

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

bull fucking shit.

it wasn't noticably off it was almost identical. and he was 10 pounds bigger with quads so much more sliced that Lonnie Teper pointed them out specifically in his Ironman mag review of the contest. those that still have the magazine can verify.

hell, even McGough comments on how ripped ronnie was in 1999 in his article:

a good read, notice he feels 99>> 98

ND's savior and hero even says 1999> 1998

but he does prefer his AC look over either of them:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_7_23/ai_n15346614/

notice: Mcgough even points out that ronnie was more ripped and fuller than the year before.

notice: 1998 is NOT on his list. and for good reason.

he was much better in 99 .


and McGough realizes this. its right there in print.

and its driving ND nuts.

the article he wishes was never written. LOL

bull fucking shit.

it wasn't noticably off it was almost identical. and he was 10 pounds bigger with quads so much more sliced that Lonnie Teper pointed them out specifically in his Ironman mag review of the contest. those that still have the magazine can verify.

hell, even McGough comments on how ripped ronnie was in 1999 in his article:

a good read, notice he feels 99>> 98

ND's savior and hero even says 1999> 1998

but he does prefer his AC look over either of them:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_7_23/ai_n15346614/

bull-fucking-shit

Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .


Ouch that's gotta hurt , watch this dumbass

review of mr. olympia 1999, january 2000, page  90:

257 pounds, a good seven pounds heavier than last year and the clear winner, ALTHOUGH NOT AS BONE DRY OR AS ROCK HARD IN 98.

dam that's gonna leave a mark 

Q ] There are those who feel you were at your best when you competed lighter, which for you was in the low 270's, and those who say you were best in the 290's. Was there a particular look you presented that you preferred over the others?
dot

      Number one. That one was incredible to me. It (Ronnie's first Olympia win in 1998) always will be and nothing will ever take the place of that one. Everything was just spot on for that show. I had to overcome so much to win that one too.

      I had guys in front of me who had beaten me for the last ten years or so. Nobody picked me to go in and win that show because I had gotten ninth the year before. I had to come with an incredible package and blow all the judges away and that's what I pretty much did.

yeah buddy 

Special Ed , Ronnie what was your best Olympia and why? Ronnie Coleman : I would have to say my first because my conditioning was spot-on for that show.

DAMN it sucks to be you 

[Shockwave]

bull-fucking-shit

Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .


Ouch that's gotta hurt , watch this dumbass

review of mr. olympia 1999, january 2000, page  90:

257 pounds, a good seven pounds heavier than last year and the clear winner, ALTHOUGH NOT AS BONE DRY OR AS ROCK HARD IN 98.

dam that's gonna leave a mark 

Q ] There are those who feel you were at your best when you competed lighter, which for you was in the low 270's, and those who say you were best in the 290's. Was there a particular look you presented that you preferred over the others?
dot

      Number one. That one was incredible to me. It (Ronnie's first Olympia win in 1998) always will be and nothing will ever take the place of that one. Everything was just spot on for that show. I had to overcome so much to win that one too.

      I had guys in front of me who had beaten me for the last ten years or so. Nobody picked me to go in and win that show because I had gotten ninth the year before. I had to come with an incredible package and blow all the judges away and that's what I pretty much did.

yeah buddy 

Special Ed , Ronnie what was your best Olympia and why? Ronnie Coleman : I would have to say my first because my conditioning was spot-on for that show.

DAMN it sucks to be you 

Lol.
Well, to be fair you are arguing with the guy who had "2 independant sources" Neither of which were Bizzy, Fucking lol. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Peter McGough thinks 01 ASC > 99 Mr O > 98 Mr O

but ND claims 98 is Ronnie's prime

I said it was his prime Olympia showing kid 

01 was his best though

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.



McGough thinks this well 



First, I didn't disagree with Peter McGough's claim that Ronnie was never harder or drier than Dorian.

again your quote

I'm sorry but Peter McGough is an idiot if he thinks 01 ASC Ronnie never surpassed Dorian's conditioning.

you think this or thought this 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Lol.
Well, to be fair you are arguing with the guy who had "2 independant sources" Neither of which were Bizzy, Fucking lol. 

Hahahahahahah textbook backfire moronic Hulkster at his best

[NarcissisticDeity]

yup. and these morons are spending pages arguing that it is. even against all the videos and pics that show otherwise. and their hero McGough's opinon. LOL

 

McGough's opinion , thanks for playing dumbass

[Hulkster]

ND why are you arguing that McGough says that 98 is Ronnie's prime olympia appearence when his article explicitly singles out 1999 as his best olympia showing..
 

you are ignoring your hero's own words because they don't match your agenda.

how stupid.

[Hulkster]

McGough's opinion , thanks for playing dumbass

not according to his article buddy.

read it again.

 

no matter what you say ND, the fact is that McGough has specifically and directly documented in his article that in his opinion, 1999 is much better than 1998.

sorry you don't agree with him, and you think the visuals are faked, but its true.

and there is NOTHING you can do about it.

 

[HTexan]

Ronnie ftw.

[delta9mda]

so i hear that Yates was better than this ronnie guy

[HTexan]

so i hear that Yates was better than this ronnie guy

nah, other way around. try to keep up.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND why are you arguing that McGough says that 98 is Ronnie's prime olympia appearence when his article explicitly singles out 1999 as his best olympia showing..
 

you are ignoring your hero's own words because they don't match your agenda.

how stupid.

MORON I never said McGough claimed 98 was his prime Olympia appearance you dummy , I said he was harder & drier I NEVER ONCE claimed McGough said 98 was his best Olympia appearance , I know you have severe comprehension problems but try and pay attention stupid.

Ignoring YOUR own hero's words because they don't match YOUR agenda like when Ronnie said his best Olympia was 1998 and that he couldn't beat Dorian , ouch that's gotta hurt dumbass 

Hulkster = dumb hypocrite

[Shockwave]

Hulkster, I read your interview and NO WHERE does he claim 99 was ronnies best appearance. He claims he preffered 2001 over 99, and that he was fuller in 99. No where does he say that 99 was his best olympia. Again, you fail.

[NarcissisticDeity]

not according to his article buddy.

read it again.

 

no matter what you say ND, the fact is that McGough has specifically and directly documented in his article that in his opinion, 1999 is much better than 1998.

sorry you don't agree with him, and you think the visuals are faked, but its true.

and there is NOTHING you can do about it.

 

He never once said he was much better you moron , in fact he said MANY times his conditioning in 98 was much better in fact  and in the end you FAIL because he says 2001 is his best , you have NOTHING as usual

sorry YOU don't agree with him , and we proved YOUR screencaps were sharpened

and this is NOTHING YOU can do about it.

Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .


review of mr. olympia 1999, january 2000, page  90:

257 pounds, a good seven pounds heavier than last year and the clear winner, ALTHOUGH NOT AS BONE DRY OR AS ROCK HARD IN 98.


While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.

[Hulkster]

b] No where does he say that 99 was his best olympia. Again, you fail[/b].

LOL duh!

 that was the whole point of the article you dummy!

the whole idea was to highlight the best Mr. Olympia presentations.

1999 was on the list. 1998 wasn't.

hence 1999> 1998 in McGough's opinion

holy shit man.

I knew nuthuggers were dumb, but not this dumb.

thanks for surprising me yet again.