Author Topic: Dorian Yates - overrated!  (Read 269825 times)

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #950 on: May 01, 2010, 08:20:39 AM »
In 93 he looked pretty good. I agree. But even at that time other guys were at his same level.
 But I'm not trying to get into this debate.
Regardless of whether you are Dorian fan or not, this shows just how little you know about bodybuilding.  Dorian is best known for raising the level of bodybuilding in 1993 -- no one was at his level.  Sure, Ronnie raised the size level during his reign, but to claim that Dorian was "pretty good" and that "other guys were at his same level" is simply lame.  You're right, you shouldn't get into this debate.

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #951 on: May 01, 2010, 08:21:36 AM »
Claiming that anyone was at the same level as Yates in '93 is fucking outrageous if you ask me.

not outrageous if you look at the visuals

ronnie was at an even higher level than dorian 93:

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #952 on: May 01, 2010, 08:22:24 AM »
Regardless of whether you are Dorian fan or not, this shows just how little you know about bodybuilding.  Dorian is best known for raising the level of bodybuilding in 1993 -- no one was at his level.  Sure, Ronnie raised the size level during his reign, but to claim that Dorian was "pretty good" and that "other guys were at his same level" is simply lame.  You're right, you shouldn't get into this debate.

 I was thinking about 94 actually. In 1994 he looked shitty.

 In 93 he did look great. You're right.

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #953 on: May 01, 2010, 08:27:49 AM »
yup. dorian looked good in 92 and even better in 93.

but he was never the same after the tear.
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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #954 on: May 01, 2010, 08:28:55 AM »
I agree that he was off in 94 (no where near 93 in terms of conditioning) and pushed to the limit by Ray. Still, given the fact that he tore his bicep just a few weeks before the show, it is amazing that he even showed up.

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #955 on: May 01, 2010, 08:33:35 AM »
I agree that he was off in 94 (no where near 93 in terms of conditioning) and pushed to the limit by Ray. Still, given the fact that he tore his bicep just a few weeks before the show, it is amazing that he even showed up.

I agree. he could have missed it.

but it was in his contract that if he showed up they would give him the win ....soooo..he showed up

hahahahahahaha


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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #956 on: May 01, 2010, 08:40:14 AM »
I agree. he could have missed it.

but it was in his contract that if he showed up they would give him the win ....soooo..he showed up

hahahahahahaha


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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #957 on: May 01, 2010, 08:45:29 AM »
yup. dorian looked good in 92 and even better in 93.

but he was never the same after the tear.

He was better in 95  ;)

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #958 on: May 01, 2010, 08:52:47 AM »
not outrageous if you look at the visuals

ronnie was at an even higher level than dorian 93:


I love how you post a pic of 99 ronnie when he is clearly holding water. lol

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #959 on: May 01, 2010, 08:57:43 AM »
I love how you post a pic of 99 ronnie when he is clearly holding water. lol

Great post ! he doesn't know what great conditioning is that's why he THINKS Ronnie is competitive in this area he just doesn't know the difference


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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #960 on: May 01, 2010, 09:00:01 AM »
 ;D

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #961 on: May 01, 2010, 09:03:28 AM »

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #962 on: May 01, 2010, 09:05:40 AM »
theres some owning going on here ;D

It's INSANE these guys claim he didn't dominate like he did in 93 LMMFAO

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #963 on: May 01, 2010, 09:08:03 AM »
It's INSANE these guys claim he didn't dominate like he did in 93 LMMFAO

not insane when dorian turns around buddy.

his back is great.

his front, not so much.

besides, when they are actually hitting the pose, shawn holds up quite well:
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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #964 on: May 01, 2010, 09:16:53 AM »
I love how you post a pic of 99 ronnie when he is clearly holding water. lol

bullshit. he is showing a lot more detail than dorian in both of those shots.


sorry:

but even dorian's driest ever 95 gets owned by ronnie 99.

yes, dorian's upper back is drier, but that doesn't mean its better. it loses out on so many other qualities, like thickness, taper etc etc.


not to mention the shitty watery hams, glutes, shitty arms etc etc.

ronnie easily wins the pose.

 
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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #965 on: May 01, 2010, 09:19:56 AM »
^

ouch.

dorian 95 is getting crushed there. no wonder McGough singled out 99 in his olympia article.

he was that good.
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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #966 on: May 01, 2010, 09:30:04 AM »
^

ouch.

dorian 95 is getting crushed there. no wonder McGough singled out 99 in his olympia article.

he was that good.

McGough said 2001 was better and Dorian would trample him again  ;)  thanks for playing dumbass

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #967 on: May 01, 2010, 09:41:08 AM »
Nothing special from the front he says LMFAO Ronnie is actually hitting the shot  :-\ look at the gut sticking out and look at the staggering difference in density & dryness

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #968 on: May 01, 2010, 09:52:41 AM »
^

ouch.

dorian 95 is getting crushed there. no wonder McGough singled out 99 in his olympia article.

he was that good.
Haha!
Since youre quoting Mcgough as your ONLY source of refernce to back up your 99 claim,

Mcgough said 99<01<Dorian 93. So yet again you own yourself into oblivion.

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #969 on: May 01, 2010, 11:23:31 AM »
Haha!
Since youre quoting Mcgough as your ONLY source of refernce to back up your 99 claim,

Mcgough said 99<01<Dorian 93. So yet again you own yourself into oblivion.
I know what a fucking idiot

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #970 on: May 01, 2010, 11:30:38 AM »
Nothing special from the front he says LMFAO Ronnie is actually hitting the shot  :-\ look at the gut sticking out and look at the staggering difference in density & dryness

lol he is not hitting the shot in that freeze frame.

however, even if he WAS, dorian would still obviously have way better abs, but ronnie's quads destroy dorian's any year.

because ronnie can't hit an ab shot to save his life.

all he does is alternate which set of intercostals and serratus to flex...

he barely even crunches his abs..

however, the judges have made it clear that abs are only one part of the shot they look at.

ronnie 2004 beat dex in the shot despite having shitty abs in comparison

ronnie 99 might beat dorian in the shot too for the same reason.

great abs but shitty everything else isn't enough..as the judges made quite clear in 2004..

if dorina 95 and ronnie 99 stepped onstage, the same thing might happen..
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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #971 on: May 01, 2010, 11:32:31 AM »
Nothing special from the front he says LMFAO Ronnie is actually hitting the shot  :-\ look at the gut sticking out and look at the staggering difference in density & dryness

The black and white, favorable lighting also helps with "graininess"


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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #972 on: May 01, 2010, 11:33:38 AM »
The black and white, favorable lighting also helps with "graininess"



but they don't help poor dorian:
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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #973 on: May 01, 2010, 11:37:49 AM »


neither for milos. I think he forgot to diet.  :-X


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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #974 on: May 01, 2010, 11:38:10 AM »
Dorian > Ronnie. More conditioned.  Yes, Ronnie looks "fuller", but in 1999 he did not achieve the dryness or hardness of a 92, 93, 95, or 96 Dorian.