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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1075 on: May 03, 2010, 06:49:16 PM »
yup. virtually same if not better:

NEXT:

 ::)

You don't know what constitutes great conditioning so anything you have to say on the subject , is wrong and contradictory , recall your comment that Dorian's great conditioning was nothing more than a myth? HAHAHAHAHAHA you know what again?

you're proving my point too , keep posting pics  ;)

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1076 on: May 03, 2010, 06:50:53 PM »
yes, I will keep posting the pics that prove the fact that ronnie had the same if not better conditioning.

just like he said in his seminar, just like McGough singled out 99 as being better.

you just keep denying it all.. ::)

ronnie 99 was dry and grainy as hell: :o
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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1077 on: May 03, 2010, 06:53:17 PM »
note the incredible definition in his biceps :o

but no, ronnie 99 was soft compared to 98 LOL

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1078 on: May 03, 2010, 06:56:41 PM »
yes, I will keep posting the pics that prove the fact that ronnie had the same if not better conditioning.

just like he said in his seminar, just like McGough singled out 99 as being better.

you just keep denying it all.. ::)

ronnie 99 was dry and grainy as hell: :o
lmfao dry & grainy it's a shitty scanned picture you fucking moron , just when I think you think you can NOT get any dumber you prove me wrong and that's the ONLY thing you proved me wrong one

try posting two independent sources again dumbass

where is the grainyness now stupid? it doesn't exist  ;)

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1079 on: May 03, 2010, 07:15:55 PM »
These shots of a vintage Dexter Jackson are as dry as Dorian ever was, and they own Dorian in asthetics too:






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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1080 on: May 03, 2010, 07:36:50 PM »
Hulkster losing at after the 98 vid was posted showing a shredded dry Ronnie.
Hey hulkster, wherea your judges?
Where's your competitors that agree?
Where's your experts toiuting 99?
Oh yeah, they all thnk 98 or 01. Hahahahaha.
I love how you omit mcgoughs line about 01 being his best
btw, if you wanna play the quot mcgough game, he said ronnie wasn't as dry or shredded asnin 98, and in you precious article he was talking about his favorite Olympia showings, not who would win. But I know your gonna have tunnelling vision and not listen to anything, so I'll leave you with the ultimate self ownage,....

The same mcough that cited Ronnie 99 as one of his favorite showing, also says Dorian 93 would beat Ronnie. Hahahahahahahaha

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1081 on: May 03, 2010, 08:10:33 PM »


right here loser:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_7_23/ai_n15346614/

http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php?t=4268

http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php?t=9710

 ::)

sorry, but you lose. the visuals own  you.

you know, you have become just as pathetic as ND.

now, all you do is spend your time trying to find excuses to why the videos and pics are wrong, just like he does.

its sad you know.

sad that you can't come to terms with what everyone else can already see.

hell, even McGough himself has come to realize how good 99 ronnie was and how it was better than his 98 form..

but you and flowerboy continue to campaign against it, for what reason, I don't know.. ::)
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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1082 on: May 04, 2010, 03:35:17 AM »
Yes Ronnie looked awesome in both 1998 and 1999, But i personally think 2001 AC he looked fantastic, deep clear seperation with full round muscle bellies

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1083 on: May 04, 2010, 02:20:20 PM »
These shots of a vintage Dexter Jackson are as dry as Dorian ever was, and they own Dorian in asthetics too:


Yippppeeeeeeee he's as dry as Yates , now try doing it at 260lbs now try doing it with near perfect balance , lots of guys were dry & hard very very few were dry and hard and 260


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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1084 on: May 04, 2010, 02:22:52 PM »

right here loser:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_7_23/ai_n15346614/

http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php?t=4268

http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php?t=9710

 ::)

sorry, but you lose. the visuals own  you.

you know, you have become just as pathetic as ND.

now, all you do is spend your time trying to find excuses to why the videos and pics are wrong, just like he does.

its sad you know.

sad that you can't come to terms with what everyone else can already see.

hell, even McGough himself has come to realize how good 99 ronnie was and how it was better than his 98 form..

but you and flowerboy continue to campaign against it, for what reason, I don't know.. ::)

Where? I don't see any experts or contemporaries or judges and the McGough link clearly states 2001 SORRY Hulkster but you fail as usual

I don't you before FANBOYS don't count  ;)


let's try again

http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/6ec386cb64df22dff37b/Superstar-Seminar-Ronnie-Coleman-Phil-Heath-Dexter-Jackson

Heath , Alves and Ronnie all say his best is 1998


where is 1999?

Joe Weider - IFBB Co-Founder

"Many experts, including reigning Mr.Olympia, Jay Cutler, believe that at his best Ronnie has the greatest physique of all-time. When looking at pictures of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr.Olympia, I find it hard to argue with that."

where is 1999?

Raymond Cassar - Muscletime Editor and Photographer

"There is no one alive that can beat Ronnie Coleman when he is at his best - No One! (and his best for me was when he won the 2001 Arnold Classic)"

where is 1999?


Team Flex - http://www.flexonline.com/training/49

"We've said before that the 245 pounds or so physique with which [Ronnie Coleman] won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic is the best ever - unbeatable."

where is 1999?

Tales from Columbus

2001 (2): Is Chris Cormier unlucky? Are Bob Cicherillo's threads so loud that he's being sponsored by a megaphone company? At the 2001 Arnold Classic, for the only time in its history, the reigning Mr. Olympia entered the contest. Not only that, but said Mr. Olympia, Ronnie Coleman, was in the best shape of his career, before or since. Now that is bad luck.


where is 1999?

Flex Magazine March 2008

2001 Then-reigning Mr. Olympia Ronnie Coleman, in the shape of his life at 245 pounds, took this one, with Cormier gaining the second of his six consecutive runner-up positions.


where is 1999?

Q ] There are those who feel you were at your best when you competed lighter, which for you was in the low 270's, and those who say you were best in the 290's. Was there a particular look you presented that you preferred over the others?
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  Ronnie Coleman :    Number one. That one was incredible to me. It (Ronnie's first Olympia win in 1998) always will be and nothing will ever take the place of that one. Everything was just spot on for that show. I had to overcome so much to win that one too.

      I had guys in front of me who had beaten me for the last ten years or so. Nobody picked me to go in and win that show because I had gotten ninth the year before. I had to come with an incredible package and blow all the judges away and that's what I pretty much did.


where is 1999?

Flex Magazine August 2003


Jim Schmatltz on Ronnie chances of winning six Olympias in a row

if he repeats his 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic form, he'll experience the joy of six.



where is 1999?


Shawn Perine Ironage Dec 11, 2004

As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable. Except by Dorian Yates 6 weeks out from the '93 O as photographed by our own KMH. Both men, on those specific occasions carried so much dry muscle mass in good proportion and with good lines that it's almost unfair to compare them to others.

where is 1999?

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.

where is 1999?


review of mr. olympia 1999, january 2000, page  90:

257 pounds, a good seven pounds heavier than last year and the clear winner, ALTHOUGH NOT AS BONE DRY OR AS ROCK HARD IN 98.


where is 1999?

Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .


where is 1999?

Peter McGough Flex Magazine August 2005

Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack.

where is 1999? and your response is a few guys on message boards who never went to the 1999 Olympia or in fact ANY of Ronnie's Olympias are wrong and you are right.  Grin


where is 1999?

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1085 on: May 04, 2010, 02:25:54 PM »
people often overlook the massive gut on 2001 ronnie vs his 98 and 99 olympia forms.

I don't.

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1086 on: May 04, 2010, 02:27:47 PM »
 :-\
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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1087 on: May 04, 2010, 02:30:03 PM »
Yeah and stupid fanboys overlook his massive gut in 99 too  ;)

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1088 on: May 04, 2010, 02:31:09 PM »
thanks for posting that you moron.

like I said his 99 gut was MUCH smaller than his 2001 AC gut and you just proved that for the 100000th time quite nicely

thanks.
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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1089 on: May 04, 2010, 02:32:10 PM »
Yup NO gut in 99  ::)

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1090 on: May 04, 2010, 02:33:44 PM »
thanks for posting that you moron.

like I said his 99 gut was MUCH smaller than his 2001 AC gut and you just proved that for the 100000th time quite nicely

thanks.

yup yup  ::) sure sure

you have NO case his GUT was equal if not bigger in 99 and he had shit conditioned compared to that contest too , NO ONE thinks 1999 is better than 2001 other than stupid people

Ronnie is inferior in 99

I ask again dummy

http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/6ec386cb64df22dff37b/Superstar-Seminar-Ronnie-Coleman-Phil-Heath-Dexter-Jackson

Heath , Alves and Ronnie all say his best is 1998


where is 1999?

Joe Weider - IFBB Co-Founder

"Many experts, including reigning Mr.Olympia, Jay Cutler, believe that at his best Ronnie has the greatest physique of all-time. When looking at pictures of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr.Olympia, I find it hard to argue with that."

where is 1999?

Raymond Cassar - Muscletime Editor and Photographer

"There is no one alive that can beat Ronnie Coleman when he is at his best - No One! (and his best for me was when he won the 2001 Arnold Classic)"

where is 1999?


Team Flex - http://www.flexonline.com/training/49

"We've said before that the 245 pounds or so physique with which [Ronnie Coleman] won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic is the best ever - unbeatable."

where is 1999?

Tales from Columbus

2001 (2): Is Chris Cormier unlucky? Are Bob Cicherillo's threads so loud that he's being sponsored by a megaphone company? At the 2001 Arnold Classic, for the only time in its history, the reigning Mr. Olympia entered the contest. Not only that, but said Mr. Olympia, Ronnie Coleman, was in the best shape of his career, before or since. Now that is bad luck.


where is 1999?

Flex Magazine March 2008

2001 Then-reigning Mr. Olympia Ronnie Coleman, in the shape of his life at 245 pounds, took this one, with Cormier gaining the second of his six consecutive runner-up positions.


where is 1999?

Q ] There are those who feel you were at your best when you competed lighter, which for you was in the low 270's, and those who say you were best in the 290's. Was there a particular look you presented that you preferred over the others?
dot

  Ronnie Coleman :    Number one. That one was incredible to me. It (Ronnie's first Olympia win in 1998) always will be and nothing will ever take the place of that one. Everything was just spot on for that show. I had to overcome so much to win that one too.

      I had guys in front of me who had beaten me for the last ten years or so. Nobody picked me to go in and win that show because I had gotten ninth the year before. I had to come with an incredible package and blow all the judges away and that's what I pretty much did.


where is 1999?

Flex Magazine August 2003


Jim Schmatltz on Ronnie chances of winning six Olympias in a row

if he repeats his 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic form, he'll experience the joy of six.



where is 1999?


Shawn Perine Ironage Dec 11, 2004

As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable. Except by Dorian Yates 6 weeks out from the '93 O as photographed by our own KMH. Both men, on those specific occasions carried so much dry muscle mass in good proportion and with good lines that it's almost unfair to compare them to others.

where is 1999?

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.

where is 1999?


review of mr. olympia 1999, january 2000, page  90:

257 pounds, a good seven pounds heavier than last year and the clear winner, ALTHOUGH NOT AS BONE DRY OR AS ROCK HARD IN 98.


where is 1999?

Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .


where is 1999?

Peter McGough Flex Magazine August 2005

Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack.

where is 1999? and your response is a few guys on message boards who never went to the 1999 Olympia or in fact ANY of Ronnie's Olympias are wrong and you are right.  Grin

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1091 on: May 04, 2010, 02:37:09 PM »
Yup NO gut in 99  ::)

who said anything about no gut in 99?

oh wait, I forgot you can't fucking read. ::)

I said and you proved quite nicely that his gut was much SMALLER in 98/99 relative to the 2001 AC and it was

watch the videos for yourself.

oh wait, thats right, all you do is campaign that the videos are faked..

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1092 on: May 04, 2010, 02:37:45 PM »
The dudes who slander Yates and Coleman for having guts dont seem to understand that with the level of mass these dudes carried, it is going to be accepted.

In fact Both of them carried it well. Yates circa 97 still managed to look decent when holding a pose, same with Coleman in 2001

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1093 on: May 04, 2010, 02:47:46 PM »
who said anything about no gut in 99?

oh wait, I forgot you can't fucking read. ::)

I said and you proved quite nicely that his gut was much SMALLER in 98/99 relative to the 2001 AC and it was

watch the videos for yourself.

oh wait, thats right, all you do is campaign that the videos are faked..

 ::)



Let's entertain your moronic diversion and his gut was ' smaller ' and? his conditioning still fucking blew in comparison to 2001 so you gain NOTHING you have NO point it's an empty plea and NO ONE cares

again moron if entertaining the point his gut was smaller in 99 and his conditioning was equal if NOT better and he was 10lbs heavier why is it NOT one fucking single credible person thinks 1999 is better than 2001? WHY? you can't answer this question you have NO ONE backing you up , you contradict reality , and all the eyewitness experts

you have nothing except lies I never said all videos are fake just certain 99 screencaps that have been proven to be PHOTOSHOPPED so keep trying to divert from the topic with lies




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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1094 on: May 04, 2010, 02:52:23 PM »
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Let's entertain your moronic diversion and his gut was ' smaller '

only ND is stupid enough to say that he has to 'entertain' a 'moronic diversion' with something that is completely obvious..there is NO DEBATE about this fact.

ronnie's gut first balloned up at the 2000 Olympia (where kevin kept pointing at it) and it never died down after that.

98/99 was pre massive gut ronnie.

anything after 2000 was not.

this is 100% fact and it is proven beyond all doubt. only a blind person would debate it.

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1095 on: May 04, 2010, 02:55:08 PM »
only ND is stupid enough to say that he has to 'entertain' a 'moronic diversion' with something that is completely obvious..there is NO DEBATE about this fact.

ronnie's gut first balloned up at the 2000 Olympia (where kevin kept pointing at it) and it never died down after that.

98/99 was pre massive gut ronnie.

anything after 2000 was not.

this is 100% fact and it is proven beyond all doubt. only a blind person would debate it.

 ::)

99 you fucking dumbass , I will continue to smash you over the head with facts stupid  ;)

there is NO debate that 2001 kicks 1999's ass only stupid people in denial , stupid people who don't know anything

http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/6ec386cb64df22dff37b/Superstar-Seminar-Ronnie-Coleman-Phil-Heath-Dexter-Jackson

Heath , Alves and Ronnie all say his best is 1998


where is 1999?

Joe Weider - IFBB Co-Founder

"Many experts, including reigning Mr.Olympia, Jay Cutler, believe that at his best Ronnie has the greatest physique of all-time. When looking at pictures of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr.Olympia, I find it hard to argue with that."

where is 1999?

Raymond Cassar - Muscletime Editor and Photographer

"There is no one alive that can beat Ronnie Coleman when he is at his best - No One! (and his best for me was when he won the 2001 Arnold Classic)"

where is 1999?


Team Flex - http://www.flexonline.com/training/49

"We've said before that the 245 pounds or so physique with which [Ronnie Coleman] won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic is the best ever - unbeatable."

where is 1999?

Tales from Columbus

2001 (2): Is Chris Cormier unlucky? Are Bob Cicherillo's threads so loud that he's being sponsored by a megaphone company? At the 2001 Arnold Classic, for the only time in its history, the reigning Mr. Olympia entered the contest. Not only that, but said Mr. Olympia, Ronnie Coleman, was in the best shape of his career, before or since. Now that is bad luck.


where is 1999?

Flex Magazine March 2008

2001 Then-reigning Mr. Olympia Ronnie Coleman, in the shape of his life at 245 pounds, took this one, with Cormier gaining the second of his six consecutive runner-up positions.


where is 1999?

Q ] There are those who feel you were at your best when you competed lighter, which for you was in the low 270's, and those who say you were best in the 290's. Was there a particular look you presented that you preferred over the others?
dot

  Ronnie Coleman :    Number one. That one was incredible to me. It (Ronnie's first Olympia win in 1998) always will be and nothing will ever take the place of that one. Everything was just spot on for that show. I had to overcome so much to win that one too.

      I had guys in front of me who had beaten me for the last ten years or so. Nobody picked me to go in and win that show because I had gotten ninth the year before. I had to come with an incredible package and blow all the judges away and that's what I pretty much did.


where is 1999?

Flex Magazine August 2003


Jim Schmatltz on Ronnie chances of winning six Olympias in a row

if he repeats his 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic form, he'll experience the joy of six.



where is 1999?


Shawn Perine Ironage Dec 11, 2004

As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable. Except by Dorian Yates 6 weeks out from the '93 O as photographed by our own KMH. Both men, on those specific occasions carried so much dry muscle mass in good proportion and with good lines that it's almost unfair to compare them to others.

where is 1999?

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.

where is 1999?


review of mr. olympia 1999, january 2000, page  90:

257 pounds, a good seven pounds heavier than last year and the clear winner, ALTHOUGH NOT AS BONE DRY OR AS ROCK HARD IN 98.


where is 1999?

Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .


where is 1999?

Peter McGough Flex Magazine August 2005

Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack.

where is 1999? and your response is a few guys on message boards who never went to the 1999 Olympia or in fact ANY of Ronnie's Olympias are wrong and you are right.  Grin

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1096 on: May 04, 2010, 02:58:51 PM »
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his conditioning still fucking blew in comparison to 2001

hey everyone! look at how ronnie's 99 conditioning blew in comparison to 2001!!

 ::)

ND should be embarassed for posting shit this fucking stupid.. :-\ ::)

he always melts down when reality and Hulkster prove him flat out wrong, and this happens on a daily basis..
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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1097 on: May 04, 2010, 03:01:37 PM »
hey everyone! look at how ronnie's 99 conditioning blew in comparison to 2001!!

 ::)

ND should be embarassed for posting shit this fucking stupid.. :-\ ::)

he always melts down when reality and Hulkster prove him flat out wrong, and this happens on a daily basis..

Translation " hey look everyone please agree with me because absolutely fucking NO ONE of credibility does and I can't back up anything I claim just plea to anyone who is dumb enough and ignorant enough to agree with me '

try this dumbass  ;)

http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/6ec386cb64df22dff37b/Superstar-Seminar-Ronnie-Coleman-Phil-Heath-Dexter-Jackson

Heath , Alves and Ronnie all say his best is 1998


where is 1999?

Joe Weider - IFBB Co-Founder

"Many experts, including reigning Mr.Olympia, Jay Cutler, believe that at his best Ronnie has the greatest physique of all-time. When looking at pictures of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr.Olympia, I find it hard to argue with that."

where is 1999?

Raymond Cassar - Muscletime Editor and Photographer

"There is no one alive that can beat Ronnie Coleman when he is at his best - No One! (and his best for me was when he won the 2001 Arnold Classic)"

where is 1999?


Team Flex - http://www.flexonline.com/training/49

"We've said before that the 245 pounds or so physique with which [Ronnie Coleman] won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic is the best ever - unbeatable."

where is 1999?

Tales from Columbus

2001 (2): Is Chris Cormier unlucky? Are Bob Cicherillo's threads so loud that he's being sponsored by a megaphone company? At the 2001 Arnold Classic, for the only time in its history, the reigning Mr. Olympia entered the contest. Not only that, but said Mr. Olympia, Ronnie Coleman, was in the best shape of his career, before or since. Now that is bad luck.


where is 1999?

Flex Magazine March 2008

2001 Then-reigning Mr. Olympia Ronnie Coleman, in the shape of his life at 245 pounds, took this one, with Cormier gaining the second of his six consecutive runner-up positions.


where is 1999?

Q ] There are those who feel you were at your best when you competed lighter, which for you was in the low 270's, and those who say you were best in the 290's. Was there a particular look you presented that you preferred over the others?
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  Ronnie Coleman :    Number one. That one was incredible to me. It (Ronnie's first Olympia win in 1998) always will be and nothing will ever take the place of that one. Everything was just spot on for that show. I had to overcome so much to win that one too.

      I had guys in front of me who had beaten me for the last ten years or so. Nobody picked me to go in and win that show because I had gotten ninth the year before. I had to come with an incredible package and blow all the judges away and that's what I pretty much did.


where is 1999?

Flex Magazine August 2003


Jim Schmatltz on Ronnie chances of winning six Olympias in a row

if he repeats his 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic form, he'll experience the joy of six.



where is 1999?


Shawn Perine Ironage Dec 11, 2004

As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable. Except by Dorian Yates 6 weeks out from the '93 O as photographed by our own KMH. Both men, on those specific occasions carried so much dry muscle mass in good proportion and with good lines that it's almost unfair to compare them to others.

where is 1999?

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.

where is 1999?


review of mr. olympia 1999, january 2000, page  90:

257 pounds, a good seven pounds heavier than last year and the clear winner, ALTHOUGH NOT AS BONE DRY OR AS ROCK HARD IN 98.


where is 1999?

Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .


where is 1999?

Peter McGough Flex Magazine August 2005

Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack.

where is 1999? and your response is a few guys on message boards who never went to the 1999 Olympia or in fact ANY of Ronnie's Olympias are wrong and you are right.  Grin



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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1098 on: May 04, 2010, 03:03:52 PM »
lmfao pre-gut Ronnie LMMFAO what a fucking retard

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Re: Dorian Yates' physique is ugly as fuck
« Reply #1099 on: May 04, 2010, 04:42:32 PM »
hey ND, how come u post the subjective opinion of experts who say which version of Ronnie has the best physique to argue your point yet you ignore the subjective opinion from the same exact experts who go on to say that Ronnie has a better physique than Dorian?