Dorian Yates - overrated!

[Hulkster]

Small arms huh? yeah thanks for playing because you're a winner on " I'm a fucking moron "

ironically, the very pic you posts shows exactly what I am talking about.

look at how small dorian's left arm looks relative to his massive torso in the bi shot LOL

thanks ND. you make it easy because you own yourself.

[Hulkster]

Reminds me of a Young Bob Paris LMFAO

he looks a lot more like bob paris than your hero ever did..

[Hulkster]

No in fact as far as conditioning is concerned he said outright on many occasions it wasn't

and you're comprehension problems are still apparent , here's why he picked 1999

Instead of choosing a best-ever Mr. Olympia, maybe all one can do is reflect on 40 years of Olympia history and highlight those instances where the winner advanced the sport on that particular day. With that in mind, I would nominate the following.

NO WHERE does it say 99 was better than 1998 , you being the complete moron you are mistakenly claimed Ronnie was the best because he was listed in chronological order  you know nothing

Ronnie may have advanced the sport on that day but it doesn't mean he was better than 1998 and in fact says 2001 is better so you lose

LOL


this is fucking hilarious. so, you are saying that McGough leaves 98 off his list, highlights 1999 but still thinks 98 is better than 99?

hahahahahahahahaha


 

[Hulkster]

NO WHERE does it say 99 was better than 1998

yeah, it doesn't even mention 98 anywhere in the article because it wasn't good enough to make his list.

but you still maintain he thinks 98 was better than 99..

LOL

 

seriously you have the reading comprehension skills of a third grader.

 jesus ND. this arguing that McGough still feels 98>99 even after reading that article is really taking the cake in terms of complete stupidity. even for  you.

[FREAKgeek]

Ronnie's calves don't look too small there. People tend to get confused due to his platz like thighs.

[Hulkster]

no, only idiot nuthuggers get confused because they are stupid..

like I said, ronnie had GREAT proportions back then.

things changed when he got up to almost 300 pounds contest weight:

[Shockwave]

yeah, it doesn't even mention 98 anywhere in the article because it wasn't good enough to make his list.

but you still maintain he thinks 98 was better than 99..

LOL

 

seriously you have the reading comprehension skills of a third grader.

 jesus ND. this arguing that McGough still feels 98>99 even after reading that article is really taking the cake in terms of complete stupidity. even for  you.

Lol. Mcgough has stated multiple times that ronnies conditioning was superior in 98. You are so notorious for picking a quote you like from someone and ignoring everything else he says. Not to mention, you know, that he stated he felt Dorian would beat ronnie. Lol.

You read into everything and take only what you want. You are hands down without a doubt the most delusional fanboy ever. You dont know shit about how contests are judged, yet you try and tell people how they are, you have no one agreeing with you except one reference about one of his favorite appearances (notice how right at the begining of Mcgoughs quote, it says he is NOT trying to discuss greatest physique?

Lol. If there is one truth about people in life, its that those with the least amount of knowledge about something will attempt to claim they know the most. (And try and educate everyone else.) 

[French]

 

[Hulkster]

thats a great shot of dorian.

but ronnie is harder, drier, more cut and with better arms, pecs, etc.

everything except for calves of course.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ironically, the very pic you posts shows exactly what I am talking about.

look at how small dorian's left arm looks relative to his massive torso in the bi shot LOL

thanks ND. you make it easy because you own yourself.

yawn . desperate much? his arms are huge in 93 and are in much better proportion than Ronnie's you have nothing as usual except to be contrary but hey after you watched that video you meltded down for months and you still are 

[NarcissisticDeity]

he looks a lot more like bob paris than your hero ever did..

yeah sure he does  and the difference is dummy NO one is claiming Yates is aesthetic 

We're all still waiting for your explanation on why Ronnie wasn't on Flex magazine's most aesthetics list 

[Norbert]

Yates pre tear had a great FDB

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL


this is fucking hilarious. so, you are saying that McGough leaves 98 off his list, highlights 1999 but still thinks 98 is better than 99?

hahahahahahahahaha


 

You're making thigs up again where did he say 98 was better? he didn't you're liar and you're drawing your own conclusions again , you're the same dummy who claimed Ronnie was the best of that list because he was listed last HAHAHAHAHAHAHA WTF do you know?


McGough thinks 99 advanced the sport on that particular day it has absolutely NOTHING to do with if it's his best which is ironic because he says outright 99 is NOT his best and on fact has maintained that his condituioning isn't better in 99 than 98 so as usual you have nothing


99 sucks in comparison wwith 2001 so you are NO WHERE asusual

[NarcissisticDeity]

no, only idiot nuthuggers get confused because they are stupid..

like I said, ronnie had GREAT proportions back then.

things changed when he got up to almost 300 pounds contest weight:

his proportions when he was lighter were good for him still NOT in Dorian's league old news

[NarcissisticDeity]

Lol. Mcgough has stated multiple times that ronnies conditioning was superior in 98. You are so notorious for picking a quote you like from someone and ignoring everything else he says. Not to mention, you know, that he stated he felt Dorian would beat ronnie. Lol.

You read into everything and take only what you want. You are hands down without a doubt the most delusional fanboy ever. You dont know shit about how contests are judged, yet you try and tell people how they are, you have no one agreeing with you except one reference about one of his favorite appearances (notice how right at the begining of Mcgoughs quote, it says he is NOT trying to discuss greatest physique?

Lol. If there is one truth about people in life, its that those with the least amount of knowledge about something will attempt to claim they know the most. (And try and educate everyone else.) 

QFT !


dumn Hulkster getting bitchslapped again

[Hulkster]

You're making thigs up again where did he say 98 was better? he didn't you're liar and you're drawing your own conclusions again , you're the same dummy who claimed Ronnie was the best of that list because he was listed last HAHAHAHAHAHAHA WTF do you know?

can anyone believe this moron?

ND, you are even dumber than I thought.

by omitting 98 from the list he IS saying he was better in 99.

if 98 was better than 99 it would have been on the list! not 99.

98 would have advanced the sport (in terms of Mr. O physiques) not 99 if McGough had felt his 98 Olympia physique was better

and 2001 has NOTHING to do with this fact.

holy fuck I can't believe I am having to explain this!

 

go back to the flowershop ND.


you are clouding this debate with shear stupidity .

[Hulkster]

You're making thigs up again where did he say 98 was better? he didn't you're liar

LOL

McGough feels 99 ronnie advanced the sport in terms of olympia physiques, not 1998 (as per his article) and ND says I am making stuff up again and lying by saying Mcgough feels 99 was better than 98..

 

what a fucking idiot.

 


for the last fucking time:

IF PETER MCGOUGH FELT 1998 WAS BETTER THAN 1999 IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN HIS ARTICLE AND NOT EXCLUDED.


understand now?

[Hulkster]

Yates pre tear had a great FDB

for him, it wasn't bad.

but ronnie's was still a whole lot better, of course, having history's greatest arms helps not to mention the wasp waist etc.

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL

McGough feels 99 ronnie advanced the sport in terms of olympia physiques, not 1998 (as per his article) and ND says I am making stuff up again and lying by saying Mcgough feels 99 was better than 98..

 

what a fucking idiot.

 


for the last fucking time:

IF PETER MCGOUGH FELT 1998 WAS BETTER THAN 1999 IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN HIS ARTICLE AND NOT EXCLUDED.


understand now?

He never said he was better that's you drawing your own conclusions. and he mentions 2001 as being his best so you're fucked either way you think haggling over 98 means anything in the end it doesn't

YOU are still wrong in claiming his best was 99

you still lose moron

[NarcissisticDeity]

for him, it wasn't bad.

but ronnie's was still a whole lot better, of course, having history's greatest arms helps not to mention the wasp waist etc.

At his best Dorian blows Ronnie away in this pose as well and why? they judge ALL of the criteria as a whole at once not just big arms and a small waist but you're proving once again to those of us in the know , just how little you know 

like Shawn Ray owns Dorian in a front latspread L-O-L

[NarcissisticDeity]

can anyone believe this moron?

ND, you are even dumber than I thought.

by omitting 98 from the list he IS saying he was better in 99.

if 98 was better than 99 it would have been on the list! not 99.

98 would have advanced the sport (in terms of Mr. O physiques) not 99 if McGough had felt his 98 Olympia physique was better

and 2001 has NOTHING to do with this fact.

holy fuck I can't believe I am having to explain this!

 

go back to the flowershop ND.


you are clouding this debate with shear stupidity .

meltdown 

2001 is his best 1999 sucks in comparison get over it.

[JP_RC]

01 was his best ever because he had equal or better conditioning with no bitch tits , 99 isn't close because of that fact

both

or as big

you're speculating he would , if you're only basing this assumption on the fact he wasn't as conditioned then it's so no advantage because Dorian is ( being kind ) equally conditioned and still carrying more muscular bulk

You're basing this off of one pose? how about others? Dorian's arms don't look big when viewed directly dead on , from the side you can get a glimpse of how big they are ( see pics ) needless to say I disagree

all of these pics are from 1995 Olympia

01 was his best ever because he had equal or better conditioning with no bitch tits , 99 isn't close because of that fact

I still prefer 98 and 99 over 2001 based on the vids and pics I saw, but again I agree 98 was possibly better than 99.

both

 

or as big
you're speculating he would , if you're only basing this assumption on the fact he wasn't as conditioned then it's so no advantage because Dorian is ( being kind ) equally conditioned and still carrying more muscular bulk

I guess we will never know for sure since they never went against each other at their bests.

You're basing this off of one pose? how about others? Dorian's arms don't look big when viewed directly dead on , from the side you can get a glimpse of how big they are ( see pics ) needless to say I disagree

all of these pics are from 1995 Olympia

Good pics of Dorian there, I always thought he had the best side triceps pose ever.

I not only based my opinion on Dorian's arms looking unproportionate to his torso, but I also based it on the videos I was from the 95 Olympia.
Its something you can't get 100% accurate on pics, but the videos I show his arms are a bit small to match his back/torso in different poses (of course others than the ones you posted here).
I also got the impression of his quads looking a bit narrow in front poses from the videos.

[JP_RC]

better than 98 or better than 01 of his best in general. McGough never said he was better in fact than 98 in fact he said his conditioning was not on par with 98 and in fact he said his best is 2001

my point still stands a LOT of people have opinions on Ronnie's best and no one who has any credibility says 1999 , 98/01 even 03 but no 1999 sorry I know it doesn't coincide with what you feel but it doesn't change this fact

muscular bodyweight is not muscularity , a guy can have outstanding muscularity and not carry much muscle see    Hamdullah Aykutlu , Dorian has outstanding muscularity and muscular bulk

yes plenty of lighter guys beating heavier ones whose muscularity sucked in comparison , Dorian doesn't have this problem , he has outstanding muscularity , muscular bulk and balance & proportion

muscularity by it's self doesn't get you no where , muscular bulk by itself gets you no where , great balance & proportion by it's self gets you no where , great posing by it's self gets you no where , it's the combo of ALL of this that does


Ronnie doesn't in certain PARTS in certain ones he does , does Ronnie have better muscle separations in his calves compared to Dorian? NO how about his abdominals? NO how about his back? NO how about his intercostals? NO how about his obliques? NO does Ronnie have an advantage in other places? YES stop making gross overstatements and claiming a hallow victory

see above in certain parts sure overall? NO

obviously

better than 98 or better than 01 of his best in general. McGough never said he was better in fact than 98 in fact he said his conditioning was not on par with 98 and in fact he said his best is 2001

my point still stands a LOT of people have opinions on Ronnie's best and no one who has any credibility says 1999 , 98/01 even 03 but no 1999 sorry I know it doesn't coincide with what you feel but it doesn't change this fact

I understand your point here, I could agree on 98 being his best ever.

muscular bodyweight is not muscularity , a guy can have outstanding muscularity and not carry much muscle see    Hamdullah Aykutlu , Dorian has outstanding muscularity and muscular bulk

yes plenty of lighter guys beating heavier ones whose muscularity sucked in comparison , Dorian doesn't have this problem , he has outstanding muscularity , muscular bulk and balance & proportion

muscularity by it's self doesn't get you no where , muscular bulk by itself gets you no where , great balance & proportion by it's self gets you no where , great posing by it's self gets you no where , it's the combo of ALL of this that does

I understand your point here aswell. Despite Dorian's outstanding muscularity, wouldn't Ronnie have better muscularity? I see it like this.
You would've Dorian winning in muscular bulk, but Ronnie winning in muscularity.
And yes I agree it comes down to who had the best combo of all criteria, including symmetry, proportion, conditioning, etc. But we'll never agree on who met it the best.

Ronnie doesn't in certain PARTS in certain ones he does , does Ronnie have better muscle separations in his calves compared to Dorian? NO how about his abdominals? NO how about his back? NO how about his intercostals? NO how about his obliques? NO does Ronnie have an advantage in other places? YES stop making gross overstatements and claiming a hallow victory

see above in certain parts sure overall? NO

I see him having an advantage overall here, but again we'll never agree.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I still prefer 98 and 99 over 2001 based on the vids and pics I saw, but again I agree 98 was possibly better than 99.

 

I guess we will never know for sure since they never went against each other at their bests.

Good pics of Dorian there, I always thought he had the best side triceps pose ever.

I not only based my opinion on Dorian's arms looking unproportionate to his torso, but I also based it on the videos I was from the 95 Olympia.
Its something you can't get 100% accurate on pics, but the videos I show his arms are a bit small to match his back/torso in different poses (of course others than the ones you posted here).
I also got the impression of his quads looking a bit narrow in front poses from the videos.

I still prefer 98 and 99 over 2001 based on the vids and pics I saw, but again I agree 98 was possibly better than 99.

we've established that

I guess we will never know for sure since they never went against each other at their bests.

Ronnie seems to feel even at his best he wouldn't touch Dorian

Good pics of Dorian there, I always thought he had the best side triceps pose ever.


I not only based my opinion on Dorian's arms looking unproportionate to his torso, but I also based it on the videos I was from the 95 Olympia.
Its something you can't get 100% accurate on pics, but the videos I show his arms are a bit small to match his back/torso in different poses (of course others than the ones you posted here).
I also got the impression of his quads looking a bit narrow in front poses from the videos.

now you're force to amend your original statement ( a common theme with you ) Dorian's arms can look small when viewed dead-on but in other poses it's clear they're not at his best 1993 his arms are in almost perfect balance with his torso , his balance & proportion is much better than Ronnies

[JP_RC]

Was his bicep torn in 1993? his quads are fine only ignorant people think otherwise

It's contradictory because it's the opposite of reality and it's off-the-wall because it's way out there , he wasn't overlooked he won , and FYI Nasser was the favorite because he was the runner-up in 1997 Flex was the heir apparent as well

Did you miss the part where I posted on numerous occasions I have 1998/1999 Olympia on video? and stop assuming I'm only going based on the scorecard , I've watched both videos numerous times and that's how I came to my conclusions which happen to coincide with history and the facts .

I see 1998 as a very close contest Flex lost fair & square and Ronnie was a deserving winner , Ronnie was dead-on and Flex was off but it was dead close you can deny it all you'd like it doesn't change the facts

Was his bicep torn in 1993? his quads are fine only ignorant people think otherwise

I thought we were using his 1995 physique? His quads were fine on his own and probably vs lots of his competitors back then, but put him next to Ronnie and he would be disadvantaged on them.