Dorian Yates - overrated!

[Hulkster]

I love how the whole point of this thread was to show how ugly dorian's physique was - and it has done that quite well, and all the nuthuggers (all three of them LOL) come out in full force to defend their hero LOL

and he is still not as good as ronnie.

can you imagine if dorian tried to pull off an aesthetic shot like this? LOL

[Hulkster]

ND, its the ANGLE not shadows that makes ronnie's calves disappear in your oft posted pic.

what would you do without smart people like me around to teach you these things?

 

[NeoSeminole]

why so you penalize Dorian for having a torn bicep but you overlook Ronnie having two missing calves?

I've always said that Ronnie's prime was either the 03 Mr Olympia or the 01 ASC (you can even throw 02 BFTO in there). In all 3 versions, his calves looked huge. So I have no idea what you're talking about

[NeoSeminole]

Now I turned up the brightness all the way so the shadows don't obscure just how fucking pathetic his lower legs are , how sad is this? oh wait these are the devastating calves that have more detail than Dorians did LMMFAO

that pic shows how big Ronnie's calves were. Notice how they stick out several inches from the ankles. Feel free to throw up a pic of your calves to illustrate what "missing calves" looks like. Don't bother posting Ronnie's 19" calves

[NarcissisticDeity]

I love how the whole point of this thread was to show how ugly dorian's physique was - and it has done that quite well, and all the nuthuggers (all three of them LOL) come out in full force to defend their hero LOL

and he is still not as good as ronnie.

can you imagine if dorian tried to pull off an aesthetic shot like this? LOL

Dorian's not as stupid as Ronnie to pull-off shots he knows he shouldn't do , but Ronnie didn't care he tried to pose like he had an aesthetic physique even though he didn't

and who is arguing to the contrary that Dorian had an aesthetic physique? NO ONE

ND, its the ANGLE not shadows that makes ronnie's calves disappear in your oft posted pic.

what would you do without smart people like me around to teach you these things?

Oh so Dorian has no arms where you post an off-angle shot but this doesn't apply to Ronnie gotcha hypocrite  Ronnie has NO calves period you're arguing they're the same size as other guys WHO HAVE NO CALVES EITHER lmfao has nothing to do with Yates

[NarcissisticDeity]

I've always said that Ronnie's prime was either the 03 Mr Olympia or the 01 ASC (you can even throw 02 BFTO in there). In all 3 versions, his calves looked huge. So I have no idea what you're talking about

They look huge compared to when he was lighter has nothing to do with Dorian and size even entertaining it were true are the least of his calves problems

that pic shows how big Ronnie's calves were. Notice how they stick out several inches from the ankles. Feel free to throw up a pic of your calves to illustrate what "missing calves" looks like. Don't bother posting Ronnie's 19" calves

that pic clearly shows the opposite bro , his calves are small , small for a 257 pound bodybuilder , small and high and lacking severely

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hulkster you have a fucking nerve posting that pic of Ronnie as a good Ab-thigh shot. Even I can find a better pic. You don't know much do you kiddo.

You're right , he doesn't know much , I've been proving that for years and the dummy still can't learn even when shown the error of his ways

[NeoSeminole]

I dunno man. These pics are from 99 and his calves still look big to me

[NeoSeminole]

plus another thing I noticed when looking through my pics of Ronnie from the 99 Mr Olympia is you chose one with an aerial view. Ronnie's knees are closer to the camera while his calves are farther away. So of course his calves will naturally look smaller than they really are

[Hulkster]

that pic clearly shows the opposite bro , his calves are small , small for a 257 pound bodybuilder

yes, and Yates has small arms for a 257 pound bodybuilder.
what is your point?

[Hulkster]

^
oh and his traps and delts are small compared to Ronnie's at the same weight too.

a lot of dorian's weight was in his massively thick midsection:

[RocketSwitch625]

RC truly looks awful in the shot that NeoSemen posted. I know he isn't really posing but to my eyes he looks kind of deformed and flat like a pancake. A lot worse than a relaxed DY whichever year you pick. BTW I think that Coleman could easily get a job advertising for Cadbury now that his bodybuilding career is over. In fact it looks like he already has.

[JP_RC]

I very well could be wrong but probably not  so you still feel I only base my opinion of the scorecard?

I don't think so because recently you claimed he was just as dry in 99 as 98 and you're not the only one who is seeking my approval

says you

I very well could be wrong but probably not  so you still feel I only base my opinion of the scorecard?

Wow, you got offended by that comment didn't you......

I don't think so because recently you claimed he was just as dry in 99 as 98 and you're not the only one who is seeking my approval

I don't think so, in fact I said numerous times in this thread that he was drier in 98 than 99.

And no one is seeking for your approval here...........well, maybe in your head they are.

[JP_RC]

You think that doesn't affect the pose? another glaring flaw you're willing to overlook? notice the gut too 

NO place in bodybuilding for female breasts on the best built man

Are you willing to overlook Dorian's torn bicep? You're making too much out of nothing really, Ronnie loses that shot because of his "bitch tits".........

There was no gut in that FDB shot by the way................

[JP_RC]

yeah, ND says Ronnie should lose automatically because of bitch tits when he is blowing the oil filled Flex off the stage...yet is perfectly okay with dorian winning with a missing torn and mangled left arm..

biased much?

 

So true.

And Ronnie also had the same advantages over Flex in 98 as Dorian had over his competiton in his days: size, conditioning, proportion, etc.
Yet Ronnie's win was close and loses the FDB pose to Flex, while Dorian dominated every single year he won.

Yes, I can see a bit of bias here.

[JP_RC]

Ronnie made a career out of winning with TWO missing calves , hypocrite much?

Because Ronnie was beating guys that didn't have great calves either. So there wasn't any point of penalizing him for that.
Dorian on the other hand was the only guy that had a torn bicep in his competition days and it definitively showed in 1994.

Its all a matter of who they competed against and got compared with.  I think you've said this before too..

[NarcissisticDeity]

yes, and Yates has small arms for a 257 pound bodybuilder.
what is your point?

Oh someone was just complaining about angles  it's easy to prove you wrong

[NarcissisticDeity]

I dunno man. These pics are from 99 and his calves still look big to me

Big is a relative term , big compared to whom? who he competed with? big compared to Dorian? I don't think so , and size is half the issue with his calves

[NarcissisticDeity]

Wow, you got offended by that comment didn't you......

I don't think so, in fact I said numerous times in this thread that he was drier in 98 than 99.

And no one is seeking for your approval here...........well, maybe in your head they are.

Wow, you got offended by that comment didn't you......

I don't get offended by inaccuracy

I don't think so, in fact I said numerous times in this thread that he was drier in 98 than 99.

in fact I believe you said a few times he was just as dry in 99

And no one is seeking for your approval here...........well, maybe in your head they are.

maybe it is in my head , but maybe it's the gang that follows me around 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Are you willing to overlook Dorian's torn bicep? You're making too much out of nothing really, Ronnie loses that shot because of his "bitch tits".........

There was no gut in that FDB shot by the way................

There is an obvious difference between one bicep shorter than another and female breast tissue on the worlds best built man , if you can't see that that's on you. Ronnie loses that shot compared to Dorian because he's not as hard or as dry and because he lags behind on balance & proportion and muscular bulk ontop of him not having any bitch-tits

[NarcissisticDeity]

So true.

And Ronnie also had the same advantages over Flex in 98 as Dorian had over his competiton in his days: size, conditioning, proportion, etc.
Yet Ronnie's win was close and loses the FDB pose to Flex, while Dorian dominated every single year he won.

Yes, I can see a bit of bias here.

Dorian dominated in a way Coleman NEVER did you can deny this fact as well it still doesn't change it.

Coleman had not replicated the dominance of Haney and Yates. He always seemed slightly vulnerable, protected as much by protocol as his physique

[NarcissisticDeity]

Because Ronnie was beating guys that didn't have great calves either. So there wasn't any point of penalizing him for that.
Dorian on the other hand was the only guy that had a torn bicep in his competition days and it definitively showed in 1994.

Its all a matter of who they competed against and got compared with.  I think you've said this before too..

Ronnie beat Mike Mattarazzo your point is wrong ( deservedly so )

and my point Ronnie's weak calves would be a major liability if they competed at their primes together and these guys are making excuses for Ronnie's two missing calves while harping on Yates shorter bicep by claiming his entire arm is missing 

[JP_RC]

There is an obvious difference between one bicep shorter than another and female breast tissue on the worlds best built man , if you can't see that that's on you. Ronnie loses that shot compared to Dorian because he's not as hard or as dry and because he lags behind on balance & proportion and muscular bulk ontop of him not having any bitch-tits

I was talking about your statement of Ronnie losing that shot to Flex.......

[JP_RC]

I don't get offended by inaccuracy

in fact I believe you said a few times he was just as dry in 99

maybe it is in my head , but maybe it's the gang that follows me around 

I don't get offended by inaccuracy

It seems you did.......

in fact I believe you said a few times he was just as dry in 99

I don't think I ever said that.
If I remember correctly I said his overall physique in 99 was better, but I've changed my mind on this now.

maybe it is in my head , but maybe it's the gang that follows me around 

Don't you follow this "gang" around instead?

[NeoSeminole]

Big is a relative term , big compared to whom? who he competed with? big compared to Dorian? I don't think so , and size is half the issue with his calves

if Dorian's arms aren't small, then Ronnie's calves aren't small. It works both ways