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Re: Dorian Yates - overrated!
« Reply #1375 on: May 10, 2010, 03:26:45 PM »
Any of u who think dorian beats ronnie ever is beyond delusional. period

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« Reply #1376 on: May 10, 2010, 03:34:07 PM »
There you go again making assumptions on what I feel . depending on the year Ronnie would give Dorian a run for his money but in the end Dorian has to many advantages , I always maintained there were only two guys at their best who could beat Dorian and that's Flex & Ronnie

so once again we have you drawing faulty conclusions ( like I based my opinion of the 98 Olympia only off the score card ) based on inaccuracy

I remember posting here that Ronnie's best vs Dorian's best would be a close contest and your reply was that it wouldn't be close. I also remember reading many times how you said Dorian meets the criteria so much better than Ronnie (again you're saying he has too many advantages), this is not saying that it would be a close contest or that it could go either way.
I wasn't making things up, I just commented on your past posts. Now you're saying that Ronnie could beat Dorian (you probably said it before, but I didn't read it).


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« Reply #1377 on: May 10, 2010, 03:38:25 PM »
I feel the same way. No were did I evel claim Ronnie would be blown out by dorian.
It would be the tightest O ever.
I think Dorian would win because his size is comparable, conditioning is equal or slightly better, and he is more complete.
Slightly undersized bi's vs NO calves.
Thats how I see it going down. Tighest contest evar.

I agree on it being a really close contest, but I'm going to have to disagree on the winner.  :D

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Re: Dorian Yates - overrated!
« Reply #1378 on: May 10, 2010, 03:56:09 PM »
I'm getting bored and tired of this thread now...............let's just end it with the greatest physique and Mr. Olympia of all time:

Joe Weider - IFBB Co-Founder

"Many experts, including reigning Mr.Olympia, Jay Cutler, believe that at his best Ronnie has the greatest physique of all-time. When looking at pictures of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr.Olympia, I find it hard to argue with that."

Team Flex - http://www.flexonline.com/training/49




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« Reply #1379 on: May 10, 2010, 03:57:35 PM »
I remember posting here that Ronnie's best vs Dorian's best would be a close contest and your reply was that it wouldn't be close. I also remember reading many times how you said Dorian meets the criteria so much better than Ronnie (again you're saying he has too many advantages), this is not saying that it would be a close contest or that it could go either way.
I wasn't making things up, I just commented on your past posts. Now you're saying that Ronnie could beat Dorian (you probably said it before, but I didn't read it).



You're making your own conclusions not the first time. and I've said it many times.

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Re: Dorian Yates - overrated!
« Reply #1380 on: May 10, 2010, 04:01:26 PM »
I'm getting bored and tired of this thread now...............let's just end it with the greatest physique and Mr. Olympia of all time:

Joe Weider - IFBB Co-Founder

"Many experts, including reigning Mr.Olympia, Jay Cutler, believe that at his best Ronnie has the greatest physique of all-time. When looking at pictures of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr.Olympia, I find it hard to argue with that."

Team Flex - http://www.flexonline.com/training/49





Let's ' end ' it with a few quotes from the ' Greatest Mr Olympia '

Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?

Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.


Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90.  interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.

Jim:  What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?


Ronnie:  Dorian would have won again.


Jim: You think so?


Ronnie:  I know so.


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Re: Dorian Yates - overrated!
« Reply #1381 on: May 10, 2010, 04:08:30 PM »
well said. don't forget that Haney beat dorian for much the same reason that Ronnie would beat dorian:

same size
better shape
better taper
better quads
better back (back then at least)

etc.

ronnie also displays much better seperation in many shots (except for the abs and lower back)

he had all that in 1997 where did it get him? 9th fucking place against a Dorian with a torn bicep/tricep and quad LMFAO thanks for playing dummy

Dorian at his worse crushed this Ronnie , at his best forget it

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Re: Dorian Yates - overrated!
« Reply #1382 on: May 10, 2010, 04:13:40 PM »
truly yates was terribly overrated
he received the most gift Olympia wins of any mr O

rightful winners of the O
93 Flex
94 shawn ray
95 Nasser or Kevin
96 Nasser
97 Nasser

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Re: Dorian Yates - overrated!
« Reply #1383 on: May 10, 2010, 04:15:02 PM »
Ronnies back had already surpassed Yates by 1996 and the Mr O contest video showed that

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Re: Dorian Yates - overrated!
« Reply #1384 on: May 10, 2010, 04:43:53 PM »
 Haha!

 I changed this thread title to "Two gay men argue for 50 pages" and the mods automatically changed it to "Dorian Yates-overrated!"

 That's funny.

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Re: Dorian Yates - overrated!
« Reply #1385 on: May 10, 2010, 04:56:49 PM »
truly yates was terribly overrated
he received the most gift Olympia wins of any mr O

rightful winners of the O
93 Flex
94 shawn ray
95 Nasser or Kevin
96 Nasser
97 Nasser
get the fuck outta here.

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Re: Dorian Yates - overrated!
« Reply #1386 on: May 10, 2010, 05:04:59 PM »


You just pointed out what I mean. That's a terrible pic of yates to illustrate "dryness". He's reflecting too much stagelight here; too much light is flooding the surface areas, giving illusion of smoothness.

consider the following pics of dexter:





The first pic of dexter is what I consider ideal photography to illustrate his definition. There is less reflecting light on his body that doesn't wash out details as in the second.

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Re: Dorian Yates - overrated!
« Reply #1387 on: May 10, 2010, 05:17:26 PM »


You just pointed out what I mean. That's a terrible pic of yates to illustrate "dryness". He's reflecting too much stagelight here; too much light is flooding the surface areas, giving illusion of smoothness.

consider the following pics of dexter:





The first pic of dexter is what I consider ideal photography to illustrate his definition. There is less reflecting light on his body that doesn't wash out details as in the second.

That pic of Yates is horrible quality to begin with and it wasn't meant to showcase his conditioning , same contest color insane dryness and density and no black & white needed

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Re: Dorian Yates - overrated!
« Reply #1388 on: May 10, 2010, 05:18:21 PM »
get the fuck outta here.

No one pays attention to him we just laugh at his stupidity much like Hulkster

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Re: Dorian Yates - overrated!
« Reply #1389 on: May 10, 2010, 05:45:56 PM »
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he had all that in 1997 where did it get him?

you think he had all that in 1997?

what are you smoking?:

 ::)
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Re: Dorian Yates - overrated!
« Reply #1390 on: May 10, 2010, 05:47:53 PM »
Haha!

 I changed this thread title to "Two gay men argue for 50 pages" and the mods automatically changed it to "Dorian Yates-overrated!"

 That's funny.

yeah, everyone except for ND and Cockwave think dorian was overrated.

its common knowledge by now.
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Re: Dorian Yates - overrated!
« Reply #1391 on: May 10, 2010, 05:51:14 PM »
yeah, everyone except for ND and Cockwave think dorian was overrated.

its common knowledge by now.

Ronnie thinks very highly of Dorian but you know that hahahahahahaha dumb-ass

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Re: Dorian Yates - overrated!
« Reply #1392 on: May 10, 2010, 05:57:04 PM »
you think he had all that in 1997?

what are you smoking?:

 ::)

I just fucking proved he did and you know it  ;)

same dumb Hulkster posting the same dumb ' advantages ' that he always had and still placed NINTH

NINTH fucking place compared to Dorian at his worse BAWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH AHA he's supposed to beat Dorian? at his best  ;D

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Re: Dorian Yates - overrated!
« Reply #1393 on: May 10, 2010, 06:09:44 PM »
problem is, ronnie took those advantages and amplified them 100x by the time 99 rolled around:

hence the massive jump from 9th to a 2 time Mr. Olympia
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Re: Dorian Yates - overrated!
« Reply #1394 on: May 10, 2010, 06:14:20 PM »
problem is, ronnie took those advantages and amplified them 100x by the time 99 rolled around:

hence the massive jump from 9th to a 2 time Mr. Olympia

Yeah sure he did , this is 1996 BTW and he looked outstanding then too  ;)

where's the cross-striations in Ronnie's quads in 99? his mid-section in 99 looks NO WHERE near as good as this , look at the striations in the deltoids , 99 ain't like this , he improved sure but in some ways digressed

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Re: Dorian Yates - overrated!
« Reply #1395 on: May 10, 2010, 07:06:15 PM »
I agree ronnie looked great in 1996, but ironically back then, he was all front.

his back wasn't that great yet at all.

and that made a HUGE difference by the time it caught up with his crazy most muculars and arm shots..

he added so much size and thickness it was crazy.

and of course his glutes/hams tightened way up. he lost a bit of detail in the delts from the rear. but other than that it was all up.
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Re: Dorian Yates - overrated!
« Reply #1396 on: May 11, 2010, 12:31:41 AM »
 Lee Priest was better than both of them.

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Re: Dorian Yates - overrated!
« Reply #1397 on: May 11, 2010, 09:18:14 AM »
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Re: Dorian Yates - overrated!
« Reply #1398 on: May 11, 2010, 09:57:28 AM »
yeah, everyone except for ND and Cockwave think dorian was overrated.

its common knowledge by now.
Hahaha
Yeah, you truely are a bind retard. Yup, ND and I are the ONLY Dorian supporters in this thread.
I forgot how Hulkster world really works, you only see what you want, you fucking nimrod.
Im done here its obvious you were born with some sort of brain defect.

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Re: Dorian Yates - overrated!
« Reply #1399 on: May 11, 2010, 11:00:12 AM »
I agree ronnie looked great in 1996, but ironically back then, he was all front.

his back wasn't that great yet at all.

and that made a HUGE difference by the time it caught up with his crazy most muculars and arm shots..

he added so much size and thickness it was crazy.

and of course his glutes/hams tightened way up. he lost a bit of detail in the delts from the rear. but other than that it was all up.

That's not what I asked you. I asked where were his cross-striated quads in 1999? where was a mid-section that resembled that one? where are those deeply striated deltoids? you can't answer that which is exactly why you ran from it

and ironically YOU posted many pics unknowingly from 1996 claiming it would destroy Dorian and they were back shots too lmfao now his back sucks LMFAO

You constantly prove how little you know and how often you contradict reality and the facts

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