Let's make some GetBig History...

[MindSpin]

There's nothing to debate really.  A calorie is a calorie. 

Not once it enters the human body.

[MindSpin]

I have the number for Luna Bella I think, or at least that is what I have under your name.

I'm here now if you want to call.

[danielson]

TA, will you be bringing Doc Conelly pictures of Goodrum for his assessment?

[The True Adonis]

Cue excuse number one  

Exactly, which is why I would also like to highlight how the supplement industry is active in perpetuating myths and why it is so effective in doing so.

[The Showstoppa]

There's nothing to debate really.  A calorie is a calorie. 

Maybe its that mentality that has you looking so ultra ripped on stage....

[The True Adonis]

Not once it enters the human body.

Well here is the problem and I think the total misunderstanding.

I have always maintained that:
A Macro Nutrient is not a Macro Nutrient, but a calorie is a calorie.  I think you may have my position misunderstood.

[danielson]

Exactly, which is why I would also like to highlight how the supplement industry is active in perpetuating myths and why it is so effective in doing so.

Can you ask the Doc what he thinks about sponsoring a show that was obviously corrupt, and see if he was in on Aquilles winning it?

[The True Adonis]

Can you ask the Doc what he thinks about sponsoring a show that was obviously corrupt, and see if he was in on Aquilles winning it?

DANIELSON!

Where exactly have you been hiding or have you been lurking on other boards?

[danielson]

DANIELSON!

Where exactly have you been hiding or have you been lurking on other boards?

Just been busy buddy. I have no interest whatsoever in other boards. Have a great trip.

[MindSpin]

Well here is the problem and I think the total misunderstanding.

I have always maintained that:
A Macro Nutrient is not a Macro Nutrient, but a calorie is a calorie.  I think you may have my position misunderstood.

come on now.  No back peddling.  You've said that you can eat pretty much whatever type of food you want (pizza, ice cream, McDonalds, etc.)  and still get shredded, because according to you, a calorie is a calorie.

Dr. Connelly, on the other hand, maintains that you can reduce body fat simply by changing macro nutrient profiles WITHOUT creating a caloric deficit.

That is the gist of the argument, which I look forward to being debated.

Call me up brother...let's set it up.  I'm leaving work in an hour to start my weekend early...

  

[The True Adonis]

Just been busy buddy. I have no interest whatsoever in other boards. Have a great trip.

Did the Derivative Market/Housing Crisis and ensuing Financial collapse hinder business?

[danielson]

Did the Derivative Market/Housing Crisis and ensuing Financial collapse hinder business?

Yeah, I quit my job and moved to Ohio actually.

[The True Adonis]

come on now.  No back peddling.  You've said that you can eat pretty much whatever type of food you want (pizza, ice cream, McDonalds, etc.)  and still get shredded, because according to you, a calorie is a calorie.

Dr. Connelly, on the other hand, maintains that you can reduce body fat simply by changing macro nutrient profiles WITHOUT creating a caloric deficit.

That is the gist of the argument, which I look forward to being debated.

Call me up brother...let's set it up.  I'm leaving work in an hour to start my weekend early...

  

Of course I can and obviously do get ripped continually eating all of the above.  

So let me get this straight, Dr. Connelly believes thats if I were to ingest 6000 calories of his choosing ie his macro profile, I would be able to get insanely shredded without cardio?

I say without cardio as I get shredded without it while eating 2500 or so calories of whatever I want.

How about we do an experiment with me to show just how wrong Connelly is if he really thinks that is what is going to happen.  I would rather PROVE his theory wrong, than debate it.

You can`t argue against established evidence, fact or Proof. (intelligently or correctly at least)

[The True Adonis]

I posted this the other day: 



1. I advocate not overeating.  For instance I eat 2800-3000 calories a day.  I obviously can permit myself to have larger caloric days, but I usually keep constant at this amount.  If I want to get super ripped I just lower my calories to about 2500-2600.  If you keep an overall sensible caloric amount there is no reason whatsoever to limit your food choices (there never really is ever a reason to do so unless illness or allergy of course).  I eat anything I enjoy.

2.  Since I train heavy, I also suggest getting around .5 to 1 gram of protein per lb of bodyweight.  I do not keep track of my precise daily number as I hit that by default by what I eat. Its not difficult at all to fall around that number without even trying.

3. Macro ratios do not matter as you will get a decent ratio by default if you follow the above advice.  I can calculate mine each day to show you.  I am sure it constantly changes as I eat whatever I happen to fancy at the moment.  Regardless, it ends in an adequate ratio.  I am also willing to show you that again, by default, I get wonderful levels of Vitamins and Minerals.

[The True Adonis]

So lets be clear-

Dr. Connelly thinks that a person can get absolutely shredded without creating any kind of Caloric Deficit?  Is this REALLY yours and his contention?

By that Rationale I could eat 6000 calories a day, do no cardio and become ripped?

It ain`t gonna happen.

[Devon97]

Of course I can and obviously do get ripped continually eating all of the above.  

So let me get this straight, Dr. Connelly believes thats if I were to ingest 6000 calories of his choosing ie his macro profile, I would be able to get insanely shredded without cardio?

I say without cardio as I get shredded without it while eating 2500 or so calories of whatever I want.

How about we do an experiment with me to show just how wrong Connelly is if he really thinks that is what is going to happen.  I would rather PROVE his theory wrong, than debate it.

You can`t argue against established evidence, fact or Proof. (intelligently or correctly anyways)

Back peddling faster then Deion Sanders : )

[Devon97]

So lets be clear-

Dr. Connelly thinks that a person can get absolutely shredded without creating any kind of Caloric Deficit?  Is this REALLY yours and his contention?

By that Rationale I could eat 6000 calories a day, do no cardio and become ripped?

It ain`t gonna happen.

Why don't you ask him this during the debate Adam?

[Cleanest Natural]

 


TA ..you are on crack brother

[The True Adonis]

Back peddling faster then Deion Sanders : )

How is this backpeddling in any fashion?

I eat WHATEVER I want, no food is off limits,  gain muscle and remain ripped.

According to Mindspin, Dr. Connelly thinks that a caloric deficit is not necessary to become ripped. Therefore I want to challenge that aspect of his contention since it is the crux of his theory/argument.

I want to eat 6000 calories (of his choosing), do no cardio (since I do not do any ever and get ripped) and keep my same training schedule.

I know I will become obese.  According to Mindspin, Dr. Connelly thinks this is not what will happen.

[Palpatine Q]

So lets be clear-

Dr. Connelly thinks that a person can get absolutely shredded without creating any kind of Caloric Deficit?  Is this REALLY yours and his contention?

By that Rationale I could eat 6000 calories a day, do no cardio and become ripped?

It ain`t gonna happen.

Save it for the debate T/A ...it will be fun to watch you own them

[MindSpin]

Let's save the questions and debates for the meeting.  I'm leaving soon...dial the number...

[The True Adonis]

I would ideally like to show how WRONG his hyper-caloric theory is and that the simple manipulation of Macro Ratios, yet keeping the same caloric limit will result in nothing but obesity.


I am willing to eat 6000 calories in whatever ratio Scott Connelly wants, keep my training regimen, do no cardio (since I don`t do any ever) to see what happens. Record the Results.

Then,

I will go back to my method of eating whatever I want with overall calories controlled.

I can guarantee you my method will win 10 times out of 10.

[The True Adonis]

Save it for the debate T/A ...it will be fun to watch you own them

Wouldn`t a controlled experiment yield better results and something concrete?  That way we would actually have something to debate about and something to confirm.

I could show up now, armed with boxes of Studies and counterpoints to Connelly`s nonsense but I think actually performing an experiment to which we could submit is a better approach.

[The True Adonis]

Jezebelle also said she is willing to be a guinea pig.

[disturbia]

SHUT UP DIAL THE GODDAM NUMBER ALREADY

FUCK