Let's make some GetBig History...

[disturbia]

A brilliant marketing approach in talking to an ant on a molehill in South Africa (no dis intended Grant) Your ego is bigger than the universe.

i thought Grant was from New Zealand

i may be wrong

[lovemonkey]

[The True Adonis]

ROFLMAO,

I like!

[Azn Muscle]

Sounds like a great deal.  Free trip to CA.  You should do it man and prove these haters wrong.

Its not like you're gonna get killed, and even if you did, its not like you wrote Beethoven's 9th symphony. 

[HICKSON]

i thought Grant was from New Zealand

i may be wrong

No, I read on a past thread someone stereotyped him all white people & South Africa bullshit together & he got pissed, Funny ownage.

Corrected.

[FREAKgeek]

Call his bluff, TA.

I seriously doubt he will spend a dime on you for anything. Whatever this so called doctor has to say or know about anything has not shattered the world, and sticking to the tried and true science of dieting will prevail.

What's funny is there was another recent thread here about a guru who was dismissed simply because of the shallow reasoning of his appearance.

[HICKSON]

Yawn. Thread is dead.

[The True Adonis]

Call his bluff, TA.

I seriously doubt he will spend a dime on you for anything. Whatever this so called doctor has to say or know about anything has not shattered the world, and sticking to the tried and true science of dieting will prevail.

What's funny is there was another recent thread here about a guru who was dismissed simply because of the shallow reasoning of his appearance.

Given Mindspins recent behavior and attack on Bob Chick, I wouldn`t doubt if he is just trying to stir the pot a bit with Dr. Connelly being totally unaware that this thread exists.

Afterall, Mindspin is claiming that Dr. Connelly could have one eating 6000 calories a day, not ever reaching a caloric deficit all the while becoming shredded.

I am 100 percent positive that a 6`7 Noah Steere at well over 350 lbs would never be able to pull that off.

[pellius]

Jeeze fucking Louise, TA! MindSpin made a simple, generous, straight forward offer. Stop mucking it up. Just accept or decline. If you want to do experiments on your own dime that's fine, too. In a debate it's not always about who wins or loses but simply to clarify what the positions are and let the audience decide.

It is not your prerogative to set the terms unless you want to make and finance your own separate challenge or offer. You surprise me. I thought for sure you would jump at this offer. If you feel that it will not be a fruitful trip simply decline. But if you have confidence in being able to present your beliefs then why pass up this offer? You should be honored that the good doctor will invite you into his home for an informal discussion. And who could pass up the offer with the always engaging Alex23 for some wine sipping. You could stop by Trader Joe's for some goat cheese and have the lovely Jezebelle make those great pastries.  

This would be a great photo op for the GetBig history books.

[Mr. Zimbabwe]

No, I read on a past thread someone stereotyped him all white people & South Africa bullshit together & he got pissed, Funny ownage.
Corrected.

No guys I'm from Zimbabwe. I remember getting pissed because I think someone tried to defend President Mugabe for f*cking my home country up.

Anyway.... back to the thread... if steroids are not allowed can the participants use Clenbuterol, DNP and/or the occasional line of coke to help get ripped?

[pellius]

Given Mindspins recent behavior and attack on Bob Chick, I wouldn`t doubt if he is just trying to stir the pot a bit with Dr. Connelly being totally unaware that this thread exists.

Say Mindspin is trying to stir the pot. Say, Dr. C. is hoping he will school you and use it as part of his marketing. Say, the Illuminati is pulling the puppet strings of Dr. C. and Mindspin is really a reptilian hybrid using genetically modified Whey protein to program us humans. So what? If you feel you can present and defend your theories/facts in a coherent fashion what does it matter the motives that you attribute to others?

Say someone found a cure for cancer. What does it matter if you believe he did so not because he cares about human suffering but that he wanted to win the Nobel prize and historic notoriety? He found a cure for cancer! He made the world a better place. Judge actions not motives.
 

[pellius]

No guys I'm from Zimbabwe. I remember getting pissed because I think someone tried to defend President Mugabe for f*cking my home country up.

Anyway.... back to the thread... if steroids are not allowed can the participants use Clenbuterol, DNP and/or the occasional line of coke to help get ripped?

LOL! At defending Mugabe. Beautiful Rhodesia to world cesspool Zimbabwe.

You're a good man, Grant.

[The True Adonis]

Jeeze fucking Louise, TA! MindSpin made a simple, generous, straight forward offer. Stop mucking it up. Just accept or decline. If you want to do experiments on your own dime that's fine, too. In a debate it's not always about who wins or loses but simply to clarify what the positions are and let the audience decide.

It is not your prerogative to set the terms unless you want to make and finance your own separate challenge or offer. You surprise me. I thought for sure you would jump at this offer. If you feel that it will not be a fruitful trip simply decline. But if you have confidence in being able to present your beliefs then why pass up this offer? You should be honored that the good doctor will invite you into his home for an informal discussion. And who could pass up the offer with the always engaging Alex23 for some wine sipping. You could stop by Trader Joe's for some goat cheese and have the lovely Jezebelle make those great pastries.  

This would be a great photo op for the GetBig history books.

The evidence has been available for decades.  Eat Less, Lose weight. Lift weights, eat a little bit of protein, keep muscle.  Reduce calories whilst eating less, lifting weights and eating a little bit of protein and you will look impressive.

As I said earlier, I believe Mindspin may have cooked up this whole cock-eyed proposal and I can`t believe you guys are falling for it.

Do you REALLY believe as Mindspin claims, Dr. Connelly actually believes could have one eating 6000 calories a day, not ever reaching a caloric deficit all the while becoming shredded.

Examine Mindspins recent previous behavior and challenges to Bob Chick. Summer is breaking and he is looking for motivation to get in shape or what have you.

He did THE EXACT same thing last year and the year before albeit a different sort of challenge.  Its a quite interesting bit of patterned behavior he is exhibiting.

[pellius]

So lets settle this right now?

TA, will accept MindSpin's offer? Yes or no? No stipulations.

[Cardfan]

So lets settle this right now?

TA, will accept MindSpin's offer? Yes or no? No stipulations.

No he will not. Where have you been?

[Mr. Zimbabwe]

Come on TA!  Take the offer  ....you have nothing to lose? But everything to gain?

[Cardfan]

he is a total FRAUD....why are we even talking about this?

[pellius]

The evidence has been available for decades.  Eat Less, Lose weight. Lift weights, eat a little bit of protein, keep muscle.  Reduce calories whilst eating less, lifting weights and eating a little bit of protein and you will look impressive.

As I said earlier, I believe Mindspin may have cooked up this whole cock-eyed proposal and I can`t believe you guys are falling for it.

Do you REALLY believe as Mindspin claims, Dr. Connelly actually believes could have one eating 6000 calories a day, not ever reaching a caloric deficit all the while becoming shredded.

Examine Mindspins recent previous behavior and challenges to Bob Chick. Summer is breaking and he is looking for motivation to get in shape or what have you.

He did THE EXACT same thing last year and the year before albeit a different sort of challenge.  Its a quite interesting bit of patterned behavior he is exhibiting.

I do not think under any circumstances, under any diet, under any training regime, that one can lose weight on a caloric surplus. I think there is some confusion for some where a person can keep weight the same while losing fat and even gaining muscle without changes in total calories (though, as you stated, the macro nutrient profile may differ). They often conflate changes in body composition with changes in weight. You cannot lose weight unless you are on a caloric deficit.

So will accept MindSpin's challenge?

[Cardfan]

I do not think under any circumstances, under any diet, under any training regime, that one can lose weight on a caloric surplus. I think there is some confusion for some where a person can keep weight the same while losing fat without changes in total calories (though, as you stated, the macro nutrient profile may differ). They often conflate changes in body composition with changes in weight. You cannot lose weight unless you are on a caloric deficit.

So will accept MindSpin's challenge?

you are delusional for discussing this. You gottA be TA's gimmik.

[pellius]

No he will not. Where have you been?

I would rather hear it from him stating it plainly: yes or no.

[The True Adonis]

I still don`t understand what the debate is about.  What is Dr. Connelly`s position?
One can eat 6000 calories a day, not ever reaching a caloric deficit all the while becoming shredded?

I don`t buy it. While I believe he is a mountebank, I refuse to believe Connelly is that far gone.

Also, why haven`t we heard from Scott Connelly himself?  If Dr. Connelly wanted to debate,  don`t you think he would be the one contacting me?

Or at the very least he would post here.  Perhaps I will email him this thread and see what he has to say.  Perhaps some of you could do the same.  Chances are he doesn`t even know it exists.

[WillGrant]

There's nothing to debate really.  A calorie is a calorie.  

hahaha oh fu ck , here he is - the "expert"..look at least Adam is ripped you look like shit so shut the fu ck up monkey  

[Cardfan]

I still don`t understand what the debate is about.  What is Dr. Connelly`s position?
One can eat 6000 calories a day, not ever reaching a caloric deficit all the while becoming shredded?

I don`t buy it. While I believe he is a mountebank, I refuse to believe Connelly is that far gone.

Also, why haven`t we heard from Scott Connelly himself?  If Dr. Connelly wanted to debate,  don`t you think he would be the one contacting me?

Or at the very least he would post here.  Perhaps I will email him this thread and see what he has to say.  Perhaps some of you could do the same.  Chances are he doesn`t even know it exists.

Pretty sure he doesn't know YOU exist. How 'bout you take a free trip to Cali and get it on? You won't do it. Pussy.

[Money Man]

Adonis is right less calories less body weight.
It really dosen't matter from where you get the calories.
I'm 43 and eat what i want but keep my cals low and always have
a six pack.

[The True Adonis]

I do not think under any circumstances, under any diet, under any training regime, that one can lose weight on a caloric surplus. I think there is some confusion for some where a person can keep weight the same while losing fat and even gaining muscle without changes in total calories (though, as you stated, the macro nutrient profile may differ). They often conflate changes in body composition with changes in weight. You cannot lose weight unless you are on a caloric deficit.

So will accept MindSpin's challenge?

What about Liposuction or Dismemberment?