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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #75 on: April 26, 2010, 10:12:05 PM »
I think we have to assume there is no one else out there. Too many people see movies and absorb that stuff when much of it is ridiculous. Like having a conversation in real time with someone in another star system. That is impossible according to the laws of physics. To send a message to the nearest star would take about 3 years to get there then another 3 if anyone were there to reply.

Seti has been scanning the heavens for decades and so far have detected nothing but natural stellar sources. In other words, there are no signals, radio, TV waves, or anything that would indicate artificial sources.

There are supposed to be more stars in the universe than grains of sand on all the beaches in the world. If most stars have 10 planets then the number of possible earth-like planets is staggering. Those are the numbers that give hope to those who calculate the likelihood on life elsewhere in the universe. So far we have life only on this planet and no evidence of it occurring or have occurred elsewhere, even locally in our solar system.

There is no hard evidence that other civilizations have visited earth. If spacemen visit other planets they will be from here.

My guess is that intelligent life is an extremely rare and unusual phenomenon and it could be that we are alone. The odds are that we are not but then the likelihood of co-existing or finding other civilizations is remote in the extreme. The universe is huge beyond what we can imagine. We see the numbers but what do they mean to us? We can see a photo of a galaxy like Andromeda but we don't discern the billions of stars that compose it. We are near the beginning of the space age so the future will reveal plenty of surprises.


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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #76 on: April 26, 2010, 10:21:07 PM »
I think we have to assume there is no one else out there. Too many people see movies and absorb that stuff when much of it is ridiculous. Like having a conversation in real time with someone in another star system. That is impossible according to the laws of physics. To send a message to the nearest star would take about 3 years to get there then another 3 if anyone were there to reply.

Seti has been scanning the heavens for decades and so far have detected nothing but natural stellar sources. In other words, there are no signals, radio, TV waves, or anything that would indicate artificial sources.

There are supposed to be more stars in the universe than grains of sand on all the beaches in the world. If most stars have 10 planets then the number of possible earth-like planets is staggering. Those are the numbers that give hope to those who calculate the likelihood on life elsewhere in the universe. So far we have life only on this planet and no evidence of it occurring or have occurred elsewhere, even locally in our solar system.

There is no hard evidence that other civilizations have visited earth. If spacemen visit other planets they will be from here.

My guess is that intelligent life is an extremely rare and unusual phenomenon and it could be that we are alone. The odds are that we are not but then the likelihood of co-existing or finding other civilizations is remote in the extreme. The universe is huge beyond what we can imagine. We see the numbers but what do they mean to us? We can see a photo of a galaxy like Andromeda but we don't discern the billions of stars that compose it. We are near the beginning of the space age so the future will reveal plenty of surprises.



just taking into account the sheer numbers we are dealing with...........it simply arrogant to think we are alone

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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #77 on: April 26, 2010, 10:22:13 PM »
it's beyond arrogant, it's simply stupid.


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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #78 on: April 26, 2010, 10:44:25 PM »
What is awesome about this is that one of the smartest people to ever lived has come to the conclusion that things will be just like every alien invasion movie ever made. That makes me LOL.

Aliens would not want to exterminate us, since they would not think like we do. If they even have the capability of getting here and just don't know about Earth, then they are dumb. Since having that capability to travel at light speeds would make them thousands of years more advanced, thus they would have had tons of time to explore and develop better radars and telescope devices.

Plus, this is assuming they are like people and figuring they need to do the logical thing and exterminate people. They may have a better use for us in the way of getting what they want and looking at humanity as a resource.

I doubt they want to use Earth as a vacation spot.

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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #79 on: April 26, 2010, 11:09:45 PM »
What is awesome about this is that one of the smartest people to ever lived has come to the conclusion that things will be just like every alien invasion movie ever made. That makes me LOL.

Aliens would not want to exterminate us, since they would not think like we do. If they even have the capability of getting here and just don't know about Earth, then they are dumb. Since having that capability to travel at light speeds would make them thousands of years more advanced, thus they would have had tons of time to explore and develop better radars and telescope devices.

Plus, this is assuming they are like people and figuring they need to do the logical thing and exterminate people. They may have a better use for us in the way of getting what they want and looking at humanity as a resource.

I doubt they want to use Earth as a vacation spot.

Would be quite nice though if they enjoy similar things as us, imagine a bunch of Aliens travelling to Magaluf/Cyprus/Jersey Shore each summer gassing in the sun.

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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #80 on: April 26, 2010, 11:20:13 PM »
Would be quite nice though if they enjoy similar things as us, imagine a bunch of Aliens travelling to Magaluf/Cyprus/Jersey Shore each summer gassing in the sun.



I am thinking that is more realistic than a full out invasion and harvest for resources.

However, they may know, yet dislike earth. They could have adapted in a different way that makes Earth somewhat useless.

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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #81 on: April 26, 2010, 11:24:44 PM »
As far as our cute little human comprehension goes. LOL what the fuck do we know. As if we know any absolutes on a universal level....

There are plenty of absolutes we know that are true on a universal scale - entropy always increasing in a closed system, the sum of 2 sides of a triangle being greater than the 3rd side, 1 + 1 = 2 are all examples of absolutes that are true no matter which location in the universe you make your observation from / in.

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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #82 on: April 26, 2010, 11:48:21 PM »
I am thinking that is more realistic than a full out invasion and harvest for resources.

However, they may know, yet dislike earth. They could have adapted in a different way that makes Earth somewhat useless.

On the other hand, other life forms may be around us as we speak, we just haven't developed the senses to notice them, they're outside our spectrum.
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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #83 on: April 26, 2010, 11:52:30 PM »

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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #84 on: April 27, 2010, 12:04:08 AM »
On the other hand, other life forms may be around us as we speak, we just haven't developed the senses to notice them, they're outside our spectrum.

Could be. Interesting.

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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #85 on: April 27, 2010, 12:10:05 AM »
Could be. Interesting.

I'd rather see them vacationing each summer at Magaluf though! :D

Looking somewhat like this
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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #86 on: April 27, 2010, 04:27:37 AM »
the van allen radiation belt and millions of micrometeorites seems not to have posed a problem for us going to the moon.....where neither radiation nor micrometeorite protection ws built into the space suits or the LEM module


come to think of it...once there...we seemed to have the technology to talk to ground control in real time :o....fuck the speed of radio waves n all dat nonsence >:(


if thats the case and we can trael into space and sit exposed to the suns radiation

why cant wew drive a space ship into Chernobyl then use the suits to get in that bitch and rip it down -- I know its saturated with radiation but NO ONE can go in there, but we can go INTO SPACE with suits and sit in the sun

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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #87 on: April 27, 2010, 05:40:47 AM »
It finally reached his brain.



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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #88 on: April 27, 2010, 05:46:15 AM »
what makes sense is that there is a god and he created everything 5700 or so years ago end of story, every other theory cannot be proven, all this 14 billion year old BS is stupid already

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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #89 on: April 27, 2010, 05:52:20 AM »
There are plenty of absolutes we know that are true on a universal scale - entropy always increasing in a closed system, the sum of 2 sides of a triangle being greater than the 3rd side, 1 + 1 = 2 are all examples of absolutes that are true no matter which location in the universe you make your observation from / in.
Only in normal 3D space, though.

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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #90 on: April 27, 2010, 07:01:10 AM »
You've open a can of worms...Some say that there is evidence that they here and have colonies. Peruvian mountain ranges, and under water.

And the thing is, they are soo advance they could come at anytime. I just think they will wait till we fuck ourselves up and finish the job. Less time and effort. And there will be no negotiations. I think if this doesn't happen like that, but happens as a invasion, humanity has one chance to pull together for the first time and not concentrate on race, religion, ethniticity, gender and focus on survival. Fuck the race war shit...
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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #91 on: April 27, 2010, 07:03:59 AM »
There will be traitors.  They will be promised riches and the finest intergalactic females and drugs that make heroin seem like a cigarette. Of course the will receive non of the as the aliens will betray and enslave them as well.  They might treat traitors worse.

That was a funny post, have you seen the future? 

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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #92 on: April 27, 2010, 07:06:40 AM »
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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #93 on: April 27, 2010, 07:22:26 AM »
if your intelligent, your not hostile

the greeks were the most intelligent of their time......hostile

the romans were the most intelligent as well.......hostile

nazi germany.......very intelligent.......hostil e

america.........hostile



i hope that was a joke, because it was an ABSOLUTELY ludicrous statement

just cause a civilization might be advanced guarantees their benevolence ::) ::)


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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #94 on: April 27, 2010, 07:45:16 AM »
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this aliens are complete bitches, fighting and killin in other planets, galaxies and things like that

if they had balls they would go to the UFC where the best ones are.

I bet then dont stand a round with Dos Santos

I can bet that strikeforce is already planning a event to put fedor against those bitch ass aliens so he can fight 'out of the planet' cans to maintaing his status as the number 1...  ::)

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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #95 on: April 27, 2010, 08:10:45 AM »
what makes sense is that there is a god and he created everything 5700 or so years ago end of story, every other theory cannot be proven, all this 14 billion year old BS is stupid already

I hope your being sarcastic...
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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #96 on: April 30, 2010, 09:41:50 AM »
If we ever discover intelligent alien beings, through all the money and effort spent, it will probably turn out they are nothing but a bunch of annoying assholes.

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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #97 on: April 30, 2010, 09:46:02 AM »
I for one welcome our new extra terrestial overlords.
One things for sure, it will forever change the IFBB Universe and Olympia.
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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #98 on: April 30, 2010, 10:01:56 AM »
I think we have to assume there is no one else out there. Too many people see movies and absorb that stuff when much of it is ridiculous. Like having a conversation in real time with someone in another star system. That is impossible according to the laws of physics. To send a message to the nearest star would take about 3 years to get there then another 3 if anyone were there to reply.

Seti has been scanning the heavens for decades and so far have detected nothing but natural stellar sources. In other words, there are no signals, radio, TV waves, or anything that would indicate artificial sources.

There are supposed to be more stars in the universe than grains of sand on all the beaches in the world. If most stars have 10 planets then the number of possible earth-like planets is staggering. Those are the numbers that give hope to those who calculate the likelihood on life elsewhere in the universe. So far we have life only on this planet and no evidence of it occurring or have occurred elsewhere, even locally in our solar system.

There is no hard evidence that other civilizations have visited earth. If spacemen visit other planets they will be from here.

My guess is that intelligent life is an extremely rare and unusual phenomenon and it could be that we are alone. The odds are that we are not but then the likelihood of co-existing or finding other civilizations is remote in the extreme. The universe is huge beyond what we can imagine. We see the numbers but what do they mean to us? We can see a photo of a galaxy like Andromeda but we don't discern the billions of stars that compose it. We are near the beginning of the space age so the future will reveal plenty of surprises.



So naive, imagine our culture if we somehow survived another million years, you think we will still be using Radio Waves?Will we fuck, if you can grasp the thought of there being more stars/planets than we have grains of sand on this earth and still think we are alone then I feel sorry for you.The upcoming things we are going to discover in the next 100 years or so, more info on black holes. zero point energy etc will blow your mind if you were somehow able to go 100 years in to the future, you then advance a million years like some civs could have been around and I honestly think your/our minds wouldnt be able to handle it it will be so different.Always annoys me when somebody judges things from todays tech/science when judging the universe.Simply put, we still dont know shit.

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Re: Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth
« Reply #99 on: April 30, 2010, 10:43:28 AM »
The universe has been around for a very long time. Unimaginable, even. If there were older civilizations they would be far advanced from where we are but so far we have had no contact. That suggests the universe is empty of life except for what we have on earth. Life may well be a very rare event requiring special circumstances. Intelligent life would be rarer yet. So, just because the number of possible earth like planets out there might be billions doesn't mean that life is abundant. We don't know. Suppose a civilization like ours evolved somewhere else a billion years ago. Wouldn't they have been able to go to other places in the universe? Well, this is something we don't know. I find the lack of any kind of signals out there a worry. Looks empty and uninhabited. That is what we have to assume until we discover other intelligence.

If we look back at history then the best scientists at the beginning of each century for the last few would not have been able to predict all the discoveries that century. No one predicted the internet or personal computers that I know of. Technology is advancing rapidly. I envy the young guys today because it is going to get exciting in the future. What we don't know is what will happen to man himself. It won't be long before genetic changes will be made by man and virtual supermen created. That would be great to live in those times. Perhaps they will be able to live indefinitely? We really have an exciting future ahead but most of us won't be around to enjoy it.