Nationally, 60% Favor Letting Local Police Stop and Verify Immigration Status

[loco]

So then we need national ID card and that seems very fascist.

Exactly one reason why many oppose this new law.  It opens the door for future fascist laws.

[tonymctones]

Is that happening in Arizona now?  How long before it happens in Arizona?  How long before it happens in all 50 states?  It won't work unless all states pass such law for obtaining a drivers license.

not true...when you move to a state you have to get that states drivers license sooner or later...I dont think Arizona cares much if their illegals go to new mexico or california as long as they arent in arizona...

[The True Adonis]

not true...when you move to a state you have to get that states drivers license sooner or later...I dont think Arizona cares much if their illegals go to new mexico or california as long as they arent in arizona...

No you don`t.

You don`t HAVE to do anything.  I never have. 

[The True Adonis]

Drivers Licenses are NOT required in any state.

[tonymctones]

No you don`t.

You don`t HAVE to do anything.  I never have. 

doesnt mean you dont have to, if you dont you will face fines...

drivers licenses are not required unless you drive...

arent you the idiot that was on here yelling about how car insurance is just like the health care bill mandate? 

[The True Adonis]

doesnt mean you dont have to, if you dont you will face fines...

drivers licenses are not required unless you drive...

arent you the idiot that was on here yelling about how car insurance is just like the health care bill mandate? 

I drive and I have never renewed my Drivers Licence  nor do I have any card for over a decade.  I don`t pay any fines and I won`t.

I don`t believe the government should require a Drivers Licence as there is no evidence that it is effective in producing capable drivers (drivers test show no indication of preventing accidents or keeping non-capable drivers off the road)

So what is the point of a Drivers License other than the Government to keep an updated record of where you live, your height, weight and identity?

What good is it I ask you?

[The True Adonis]

Also, all states allow certain vehicles that do not require a Drivers License to operate so NO, I find it very hard to swallow that it should be a necessary requirement for only a certain type of vehicle and not others.

This also demonstrates that a Drivers Licence is not necessary to operate a vehicle on a road.   

[tonymctones]

I drive and I have never renewed my Drivers Licence  nor do I have any card for over a decade.  I don`t pay any fines and I won`t.

I don`t believe the government should require a Drivers Licence as there is no evidence that it is effective in producing capable drivers (drivers test show no indication of preventing accidents or keeping non-capable drivers off the road)

So what is the point of a Drivers License other than the Government to keep an updated record of where you live, your height, weight and identity?

What good is it I ask you?

LOL well sooner or later hoss you will be arrested given enough violations and not renewing your license  

what proof do you have that drivers test dont produce more capable drivers>  

[tonymctones]

Also, all states allow certain vehicles that do not require a Drivers License to operate so NO, I find it very hard to swallow that it should be a necessary requirement for only a certain type of vehicle and not others.

This also demonstrates that a Drivers Licence is not necessary to operate a vehicle on a road.   

what other vehicles are allowed on the road without a drivers license?

[The True Adonis]

LOL well sooner or later hoss you will be arrested given enough violations and not renewing your license  

what proof do you have that drivers test dont produce more capable drivers>  

You do realize there are vehicles that can be on the road with No Licence necessary?

Look at the historical accident rates, despite ever changing criteria and new laws regarding drivers tests, there is no break in the accident rate and fluctuation of a trend.

http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx

Where is your evidence supporting your claim that a Drivers License ensures capable drivers are on the road?

Can you please show some evidence?

[The True Adonis]

what other vehicles are allowed on the road without a drivers license?

Mo-Peds, Scooters for one.  Some of these even go up 90 mph easily.

[The True Adonis]

There are also Replica and Kit Cars that do not require Licenses to operate on the road.

[tonymctones]

You do realize there are vehicles that can be on the road with No Licence necessary?

Look at the historical accident rates, despite ever changing criteria and new laws regarding drivers tests, there is no break in the accident rate and fluctuation of a trend.

http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx

Where is your evidence supporting your claim that a Drivers License ensures capable drivers are on the road?

Can you please show some evidence?

what does your link have to do with vehicles allowed on the streets without a license?

the very fact that a drivers test requires an EYE TEST means that the ppl with a license meet some standard in vision...you think vision isnt important in driving?

where are your facts TA youre the one that brought this up brosky...  

[tonymctones]

Mo-Peds, Scooters for one.  Some of these even go up 90 mph easily.

most mo peds and scooters do require a license...

most over 50cc's require a license...youre probably not riding on the street with a scooter under 50cc's

[The True Adonis]

This Scooter goes well over 120 MPH and DOES NOT require a License to drive.
Piaggio Gilera GP 800

[tonymctones]

This Scooter goes well over 120 MPH and DOES NOT require a License to drive.
Piaggio Gilera GP 800

wrong...it does!!!

[The True Adonis]

wrong...it does!!!

Not in all states.

[The True Adonis]

what does your link have to do with vehicles allowed on the streets without a license?

the very fact that a drivers test requires an EYE TEST means that the ppl with a license meet some standard in vision...you think vision isnt important in driving?

where are your facts TA youre the one that brought this up brosky...  

What stops me from taking out my contacts (which makes me legally blind) and driving?

[tonymctones]

Not in all states.

LOL ok TA which states dont and please post links as to why...

[tonymctones]

What stops me from taking out my contacts (which makes me legally blind) and driving?

what if you dont have contacts or glasses and drive you numb nut fuck? 

an eye test at the very least assures that a person is capable of achieving a certain level of vision in order to drive...that is unless you think that vision isnt important to driving?

most ppl arent going to take their contacts out to drive...but there are ppl who dont have contacts that may drive if they arent forced to take an eye test telling them they need contacts... IDIOT!!!

[The True Adonis]

what if you dont have contacts or glasses and drive you numb nut fuck? 

an eye test at the very least assures that a person is capable of achieving a certain level of vision in order to drive...that is unless you think that vision isnt important to driving?

most ppl arent going to take their contacts out to drive...but there are ppl who dont have contacts that may drive if they arent forced to take an eye test telling them they need contacts... IDIOT!!!

Can you please post the statistics of people driving without a Licence and without Eye glasses or contacts?  Thanks.

[The True Adonis]

The DMV should be completely scrapped and dismantled.

TonyMctones and his Government loving buddies want more control and regulation over their lives and I find it highly amusing.

[Skip8282]

The DMV should be completely scrapped and dismantled.

Well, if we do that, in 5 years, where the hell will I go for my healthcare? 

[Soul Crusher]

Post of the day.

[tonymctones]

Can you please post the statistics of people driving without a Licence and without Eye glasses or contacts?  Thanks.

lol these are your asertions you fuk nut...lmao

you also feel that a person vision isnt important for driving and that knowing the basic traffic laws arent important for driving either...nice

you know i do think that jezz was posting and it wasnt TA b/c this shit is just a whole different level of retard...

still waiting for states that dont require scooter licenses for scooters over 50cc's like that 800+cc scooter you showed that isnt even available in the US...