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Re: TRUE ADONIS : IF A CALORIE IS A CALORIE
« Reply #225 on: May 12, 2010, 12:17:46 PM »
wow.

fucking bang on.

i'm glad im not the only one who sees thru this clowns dog and pony show.
When will a new picture of me posted become invalid?

Just curious.

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« Reply #226 on: May 12, 2010, 12:19:38 PM »
FUCK, I think this is some kind of conspiracy from TA, Tbombz and yourself to just flat out drive the rest of us that know better crazy (or at least the ones with little patience that don't accept this complete bullshit, in case you haven't noticed, I have little patience) Out of the other two dildos on here (TA, Tbombz) I would have thought you would have been the more intelligent of the two. Fuck!

And what is it you know better? What is the answer to my question, maybe including scientific studies to back up your opinion?

Maybe this quote of top nutritionist Alan Aragon is of interest (response to my question about my method):

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Do people really give you sh!t about your results because they weren't achieved with clean foods? That's funny, especially considering that people don't realize that "clean" is a subjective term. One thing to remember is that most people simply do not have a fundamental understanding of human physiology. Did you eat at a caloric deficit? Yes.  Did your protein intake and training regimen support LBM retention or at least minimize LBM loss? Yes...... I honestly don't see what's so fcking difficult for naysayers to understand about that.
At my absolute leanest, I ate a pint of hagen daaz every single night right before bed. I also did not have a car at the time, so I biked to school & work. I was running a caloric defricit, so I got lean. The people who give you sh!t are the same brotards who will spend $$$$ on completely useless supps, so we can laugh at them together.

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Re: TRUE ADONIS : IF A CALORIE IS A CALORIE
« Reply #227 on: May 12, 2010, 12:58:00 PM »
When will a new picture of me posted become invalid?

Just curious.

truthfully i could care less to see yet another pic of your troll-like features.

all i had really set out to do was show everyone what a lying sack of shit you are- do not think the people who post on this board are as stupid as you would like to hope.

mission accomplished.

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Re: TRUE ADONIS : IF A CALORIE IS A CALORIE
« Reply #228 on: May 12, 2010, 01:17:45 PM »
truthfully i could care less to see yet another pic of your troll-like features.

all i had really set out to do was show everyone what a lying sack of shit you are- do not think the people who post on this board are as stupid as you would like to hope.

mission accomplished.

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So you just basically owned yourself this entire thread because you really don`t want to see a picture of me afterall?

Furthermore, why wouldn`t you expect to see improvement as I have kept consistent training, the same type of eating with no wild fluctuations in weight?

I will post a picture whenever I feel like it or whenever I am bored enough to do so.  I have the ability to be selective and will take full advantage of it.

You on the other hand, look like a Rotten Zombie.  Your pictures are horrible.

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Re: TRUE ADONIS : IF A CALORIE IS A CALORIE
« Reply #229 on: May 12, 2010, 01:59:40 PM »
It's a combination of both, when I used to train bodybuilders I never counted calories, only macros, what ever the calorie count, I never worried about it. People are eating what they want, on a cheat day, but I promise not as a regular part of a contest prep. The use of cutting compounds in addition to doing more cardio than weight training make a HUGE difference. Bottom line, dieting for a show is difficult if you're doing it the right way.

However there are upper level competitors that start loading on insulin and of course carbs beginning about 4-5 days out from a show with sometimes taking in up to 1000 or more grms leading up to the show (the "GH" gut is not "GH", it's carb loading) Those are not counted by calories but rather by macros.

I hate that statement.....when you count macros you definitely ARE counting calories.  Adams approach is the opposite....count total calories....and not worry about macros.  The whole gut thing has been debated over and over.  Sounds like it should be called "insulin gut".  NEVER have a seen a natural get that gut....even when doing things like "shit loading" before a show.  You're full of crack if you think its just the "carbs"

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Re: TRUE ADONIS : IF A CALORIE IS A CALORIE
« Reply #230 on: May 12, 2010, 02:27:48 PM »
Because some people on here think a 300 calorie donut is the same as 300 calories of fish or chicken or red meat or broccoli, etc, etc. No, you do not have to be calorie deficit, I get lean and stay big on 2500-3000 calories of meat and veggies, I cannot get lean and retain size on 3000 calories of ice cream, cupcakes and shit even if I were to take in enough protein. No, calories count is not the same as counting macros.

To be more specific....the nutrients you get from a 300calorie doughnut is different than a 300 calorie piece of Cod.  HOWEVER....that 300 calories is 300 calories.  Its like saying a pound of lead weighs different than a pound of feathers. 

So when you say you dont count calories...then you must calculate all your macros according to lean bodyweight or something like that...right?

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« Reply #231 on: May 12, 2010, 03:02:27 PM »
I am absolutely sick and tired of people with obvious fear and uncertainty putting down proven physiological facts. As humans we are essentially the same. Yes you have your variation across the range, but the ones who claim to be extreme cases who are devoid of falling into the description of being human, need to sit back and rationally grasp basic facts.
1.Even with a "slow metabolism" or in extreme cases, hypothyroidism, weight loss is still achieved through a calorie defecit.
2.There is no need to limit food self analysed as "unhealthy", merely because you link it to your overweight self in some manner. Of course ,hydrogenated oils are the exception.
3.Limiting your food stuffs can trigger allergies, your body is essentially crying out for variation.
4.Don't form the mentality that you are somehow an exception to a rule simply because you unconsciously eat too much.
5.You have a therapeutic  dose of calories, macros and micros , protein is not an exception.

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Re: TRUE ADONIS : IF A CALORIE IS A CALORIE
« Reply #232 on: May 12, 2010, 04:51:55 PM »
Hey Taylor,the quote function still doesn`t work for me but have you been to Northamton Mass. ?

I was born and raised in Springfield about 30 minutes away from both Northampton and newmoms territory Hartford Ct.

Small world bro......but I wouldn`t want to paint it!!

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« Reply #233 on: May 12, 2010, 04:56:44 PM »
Hey Taylor,the quote function still doesn`t work for me but have you been to Northamton Mass. ?

I was born and raised in Springfield about 30 minutes away from both Northampton and newmoms territory Hartford Ct.

Small world bro......but I wouldn`t want to pain it!!

Im in Mystic so hartford really isnt my territory. Springfield is fun. Gotta head up there soon to hit 6 flags with mini me. Oh wait it has to get warm, if that ever happens

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Re: TRUE ADONIS : IF A CALORIE IS A CALORIE
« Reply #234 on: May 12, 2010, 05:08:01 PM »
No shit,it`s still cold up here.....I now live in Northern NY state and it also sux!!


went to Mystic Seaport once when I was a kid.........Mystic Pizza anyone?  :)

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Re: TRUE ADONIS : IF A CALORIE IS A CALORIE
« Reply #235 on: May 12, 2010, 05:20:56 PM »
I hate that statement.....when you count macros you definitely ARE counting calories.  Adams approach is the opposite....count total calories....and not worry about macros.  The whole gut thing has been debated over and over.  Sounds like it should be called "insulin gut".  NEVER have a seen a natural get that gut....even when doing things like "shit loading" before a show.  You're full of crack if you think its just the "carbs"

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To be more specific....the nutrients you get from a 300calorie doughnut is different than a 300 calorie piece of Cod.  HOWEVER....that 300 calories is 300 calories.  Its like saying a pound of lead weighs different than a pound of feathers.

So when you say you dont count calories...then you must calculate all your macros according to lean bodyweight or something like that...right?

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Re: TRUE ADONIS : IF A CALORIE IS A CALORIE
« Reply #236 on: May 12, 2010, 05:34:03 PM »
"then you must calculate all your macros according to lean bodyweight or something like that...right"?
That`s what I do Kurt,but still no calorie counting. :)

I do see your point though.

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« Reply #237 on: May 12, 2010, 07:40:15 PM »
Hey Taylor,the quote function still doesn`t work for me but have you been to Northamton Mass. ?

I was born and raised in Springfield about 30 minutes away from both Northampton and newmoms territory Hartford Ct.

Small world bro......but I wouldn`t want to paint it!!
yup!! been to northampton 3 or 4 times. i have family in southampton... well the two girls are now in college, both in boston...  but i have went out and visited them on several occasions, most recently in the summer of 07... 

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« Reply #238 on: May 12, 2010, 07:41:30 PM »
Im in Mystic so hartford really isnt my territory. Springfield is fun. Gotta head up there soon to hit 6 flags with mini me. Oh wait it has to get warm, if that ever happens
ive been there..  :)

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« Reply #239 on: May 12, 2010, 07:44:38 PM »
Nice little town.

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« Reply #240 on: May 12, 2010, 08:36:09 PM »
beautiful church downtown where my god sisters high school graduation was held.

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Re: TRUE ADONIS : IF A CALORIE IS A CALORIE
« Reply #241 on: May 12, 2010, 08:37:40 PM »
"then you must calculate all your macros according to lean bodyweight or something like that...right"?
That`s what I do Kurt,but still no calorie counting. :)

I do see your point though.

Exactly Tim....if everything is based off a constant...and a "grams per XXX"...then I agree....there is no calorie counting.  Otherwise Coach needs to retract his statement.

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« Reply #242 on: May 12, 2010, 09:27:31 PM »
Apenis where is your degree you were posting, or the video of you deadlifting 225 for 112 reps, or your gravity suit, or your photo of yourself today and how about that culinary school certificate.  you got any of these.  I would think so since you said you do or act like you do.  Come on man post something.
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Re: TRUE ADONIS : IF A CALORIE IS A CALORIE
« Reply #243 on: May 12, 2010, 09:30:16 PM »
Apenis where is your degree you were posting, or the video of you deadlifting 225 for 112 reps, or your gravity suit, or your photo of yourself today and how about that culinary school certificate.  you got any of these.  I would think so since you said you do or act like you do.  Come on man post something.

Hahaha, TA is the white Vince Goodrum to you. LMAO!

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« Reply #244 on: May 12, 2010, 09:34:47 PM »
Apenis where is your degree you were posting, or the video of you deadlifting 225 for 112 reps, or your gravity suit, or your photo of yourself today and how about that culinary school certificate.  you got any of these.  I would think so since you said you do or act like you do.  Come on man post something.
Something.  ;D

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« Reply #245 on: May 12, 2010, 09:40:49 PM »
Something.  ;D

Again another side step.  Hey at least you are consistent.  Tough when you get called out and you can't produce anything to support yourself.  Man, you must feel like shit more and more everyday.  All the time you have spent trying to fool people going down the drain.  Wow, hey maybe you can find another board to go to and bullshit them and hope nobody calls you out.  Till then you are just someone who tries really hard to fit in but just doesn't.  Hey maybe you can try and convince us you are scientist and invented a cure for cancer.  Can you imagine all the cut and pasting you can do.  You will be in heaven.  Not owning yourself big time
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« Reply #246 on: May 12, 2010, 09:42:55 PM »
Again another side step.  Hey at least you are consistent.  Tough when you get called out and you can't produce anything to support yourself.  Man, you must feel like shit more and more everyday.  All the time you have spent trying to fool people going down the drain.  Wow, hey maybe you can find another board to go to and bullshit them and hope nobody calls you out.  Till then you are just someone who tries really hard to fit in but just doesn't.  Hey maybe you can try and convince us you are scientist and invented a cure for cancer.  Can you imagine all the cut and pasting you can do.  You will be in heaven.  Not owning yourself big time
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« Reply #247 on: May 12, 2010, 09:50:05 PM »
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Whats your address?  I`ll get someone to deliver you a Boston Cream Pie.

blah blah blah dude you are done stick a fork in it.  You have as much credibility as Goodrum.  How does it feel to put in your place.  Reality is a bitch isn't it.  Well hey you can still pretend on the internet, that will be your highest achievement in life.  You must be the laughing stock at your family picnics.  hahahaha another bites the dust.  See ya
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« Reply #248 on: May 12, 2010, 10:05:06 PM »
blah blah blah dude you are done stick a fork in it.  You have as much credibility as Goodrum.  How does it feel to put in your place.  Reality is a bitch isn't it.  Well hey you can still pretend on the internet, that will be your highest achievement in life.  You must be the laughing stock at your family picnics.  hahahaha another bites the dust.  See ya
Meltdown!

I can post a picture of myself anytime I want and Pwn the backed up feces out of you. I am just letting your anger build to a head before I do so.  ;D

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« Reply #249 on: May 12, 2010, 10:13:43 PM »
Meltdown!

I can post a picture of myself anytime I want and Pwn the backed up feces out of you. I am just letting your anger build to a head before I do so.  ;D

hahaha man you must be pulling what hair you have left.  How does it feel getting owned by me and yourself.  It's like getting a beating then when its over you start beating yourself.  You don't seem to understand.  You pretend to be smart and shit but most see right through you.  You are so much like Goodrum.  You are a Getbig "whipping post" pure and simple.  You have no other use here than to make fun of and ridicule.  you are just to stupid (in reality) to realize it.  Of all the things you have been requested to do you pick the easiest.  Just like whatever else you do.  Post your degree, or and kind of certification or diploma or anything.  Where in the hell is that video of your deadlift.  Facts are you went to the local community college and work or worked for the local water department reading meters.  unless of course there is another Adam Adeles living in your city.  I doubt it.  You are a pretender that's it.  So post your pic.  Oh and the funny part is you stay up past midnight to counter post me and you still lose.  hahaha now that is funny.
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