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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2010, 10:14:48 AM »
Can't wait....fight of the year candidate here.

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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2010, 11:43:51 AM »


Fedor taking it easy (1 week ago)

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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2010, 10:23:41 AM »
Does anyone really get excited about this fight ::)  When are we going to see him in there with Barnette, JDS, Velaquez, Carwin or Lesnar ???  The dude has about 1-2 yrs left before he starts declining.
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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2010, 12:12:48 PM »
Barnett is probably going to be his next fight in Dream and then he will probably fight Overeem for the SF title and then go to the UFC.

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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2010, 04:45:41 PM »
Does anyone really get excited about this fight ::)  When are we going to see him in there with Barnette, JDS, Velaquez, Carwin or Lesnar ???  The dude has about 1-2 yrs left before he starts declining.


You know what's up with Fedor's three fight co promotional contract, so I'm not going to get into that gay bickering like they do on sh*rdog. Yes, I'd like to see Fedor in the UFC, but at this point it is futile to complain about it.

Barnette had his chance and he fucked it up.

The UFC guys you mentioned all have short resumes and have fought unranked guys for the most part, so who's to say how really good they are at this point.

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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2010, 05:09:31 PM »

You know what's up with Fedor's three fight co promotional contract, so I'm not going to get into that gay bickering like they do on sh*rdog. Yes, I'd like to see Fedor in the UFC, but at this point it is futile to complain about it.

Barnette had his chance and he fucked it up.

The UFC guys you mentioned all have short resumes and have fought unranked guys for the most part, so who's to say how really good they are at this point.

Hard to say how good Fedor is CURRENTLY as well...

Werdum is hardly top of the HW division in any ranking either, but he is the best competition Fedor has fought in a couple years.


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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2010, 05:23:58 PM »


The UFC guys you mentioned all have short resumes and have fought unranked guys for the most part, so who's to say how really good they are at this point.
Then they should be no threat to Fedor and make easy paydays for him.
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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2010, 10:06:05 PM »
Hard to say how good Fedor is CURRENTLY as well...

Werdum is hardly top of the HW division in any ranking either, but he is the best competition Fedor has fought in a couple years.



Werdum was next in line for a UFC title shot until Dos Santos KO'd him (Dos Santos will KO everyone).  He is a former BJJ world champ, and is dangerous as fuck.

What is Werdum wins?  What will the heavyweight rankings be then?

Can you imagine a guy with a 4-1 record who hasnt fought in nearly a year being ranked #1?  MMA is a joke.
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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2010, 07:00:04 AM »
Werdum was next in line for a UFC title shot until Dos Santos KO'd him (Dos Santos will KO everyone).  He is a former BJJ world champ, and is dangerous as fuck.

What is Werdum wins?  What will the heavyweight rankings be then?

Can you imagine a guy with a 4-1 record who hasnt fought in nearly a year being ranked #1?  MMA is a joke.

Twist and turn this match-up anyway you want....This fight is meaningless in the HW rankings.
I just hope Fedor takes this fight seriously and doesn't get sloppy.
He needs to keep his record in tact until one of the worlds real HW's can show him how it's done.



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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2010, 10:27:39 PM »
Werdum was next in line for a UFC title shot until Dos Santos KO'd him (Dos Santos will KO everyone).  He is a former BJJ world champ, and is dangerous as fuck.

What is Werdum wins?  What will the heavyweight rankings be then?

Can you imagine a guy with a 4-1 record who hasnt fought in nearly a year being ranked #1?  MMA is a joke.

What you mean like lesnar ?! lol

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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2010, 07:06:41 AM »
Twist and turn this match-up anyway you want....This fight is meaningless in the HW rankings.
I just hope Fedor takes this fight seriously and doesn't get sloppy.
He needs to keep his record in tact until one of the worlds real HW's can show him how it's done.

Werdum is a legit threat to anybody he fights, he's got more wins against tough opponents than the UFC HW champ has fights (he even subbed Fedors Bro.).  Styles make fights and I think Werdum's style would probably give Brock bigger problems than it would Fedor.
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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2010, 11:54:47 AM »


Fedor taking it easy (1 week ago)

that guy looks like fedor's hand puppet

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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2010, 12:03:57 PM »
that guy looks like fedor's hand puppet

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We need someone to translate....

I am not 100% sure, but I am pretty confident they are discussing Fedor's last several EASY paydays.

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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2010, 10:06:26 AM »
 ::) ::)

It kills you inside that he is the best... ;D

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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2010, 11:31:23 AM »
::) ::)

It kills you inside that he is the best... ;D

The best at what....padding his record and destroying his legacy :o

The only other athlete I have ever seen destroy their legacy quicker is Tiger Woods....

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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2010, 12:13:59 PM »
The best at what....padding his record and destroying his legacy :o

The only other athlete I have ever seen destroy their legacy quicker is Tiger Woods....

the fact that you mention his legacy is proof that even you know he is the greatest fighter of all time

only the best ever get the word "legacy" mentioned in a sentence with their name

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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2010, 12:31:52 PM »
the fact that you mention his legacy is proof that even you know he is the greatest fighter of all time

only the best ever get the word "legacy" mentioned in a sentence with their name

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I have said and will say that Fedor is the best HW of all time. Without a doubt.

That being said, if he continues to collect easy paydays, and fight guys that have been shit-canned by the UFC, then it WILL tarnish his legacy.

IMO, the Fedor mystique ended a couple of years ago. He's still winning, just as Michael Jordan is still winning pick up games against High Schoolers. :o








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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2010, 01:13:31 PM »
I have said and will say that Fedor is the best HW of all time. Without a doubt.

That being said, if he continues to collect easy paydays, and fight guys that have been shit-canned by the UFC, then it WILL tarnish his legacy.

IMO, the Fedor mystique ended a couple of years ago. He's still winning, just as Michael Jordan is still winning pick up games against High Schoolers.

so do you think jordan's legacy is tarnished by playing with the wizards, where he couldn't even get them to the playoffs?  every average nba team makes the playoffs, he failed

fedor's legacy is already set, it can only be "tarnished" in the eyes of people that want him to fail like you and mindspin, you guys can't wait to tell everybody how "overrated" he was when he finally loses like all fighters do

it's funny how you compare two former ufc cahamps to high schoolers

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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2010, 01:37:05 PM »
so do you think jordan's legacy is tarnished by playing with the wizards, where he couldn't even get them to the playoffs?  every average nba team makes the playoffs, he failed

fedor's legacy is already set, it can only be "tarnished" in the eyes of people that want him to fail like you and mindspin, you guys can't wait to tell everybody how "overrated" he was when he finally loses like all fighters do

it's funny how you compare two former ufc cahamps to high schoolers

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When Jordan played for the Wizards he continued to play and compete against the best teams in the world...the NBA. It's not like he started playing euro league or something. He took his decline like a man

What Jordan did is the opposite of that Fedor is doing. Instead of going to the UFC, the biggest MMA org in the world, with the biggest talent base, he chose to go to an amateur style org like Strikeforce where he can continue to look like a star and pad his legacy.

There are much better and tougher fights for Fedor then Werdum. We all know that.




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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2010, 07:04:04 PM »
When Jordan played for the Wizards he continued to play and compete against the best teams in the world...the NBA. It's not like he started playing euro league or something. He took his decline like a man

What Jordan did is the opposite of that Fedor is doing. Instead of going to the UFC, the biggest MMA org in the world, with the biggest talent base, he chose to go to an amateur style org like Strikeforce where he can continue to look like a star and pad his legacy.

There are much better and tougher fights for Fedor then Werdum. We all know that.


are you seriously telling me you will respect fedor more for losing to ufc fighters?


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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2010, 07:16:30 PM »
are you seriously telling me you will respect fedor more for losing to ufc fighters?


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I will respect Fedor more if he fights top ranked guys. Werdum was shit-canned by the UFC and is barely ranked top 10 in most rankings. Look at his last fights....two were UFC rejects as well. How is that earning anyone's respect? He really should just retire if he doesn't want to fight the best.

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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2010, 07:23:12 PM »
werdum actually has a more impressive resume than brock or carwin

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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2010, 09:10:02 PM »
werdum actually has a more impressive resume than brock or carwin

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Why do you think that both Carwin and Lesnar are ranked higher in most rankings then?

Here are some rankings from Sherdog. Funny that the bottom three have been Fedor's most recent fights. Hmmmmmmm :o

Care to explain why a #1 ranked HW is fighting the bottom of the rankings. Another big hmmmmmmmm :o :o

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/2/Sherdog-Official-Mixed-Martial-Arts-Rankings-24133


2. Brock Lesnar (4-1)
While we do not know exactly how Lesnar will look in his return to the cage after his bout with diverticulitis, we do know his foe. Come July 3, he will take on Shane Carwin to unify both halves of the UFC heavyweight mantle in what should be a blockbuster bout for the promotion.

3. Cain Velasquez (8-0)
Whether one wants to call it a passing of the torch or a coming-out party, Velasquez’s performance against Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira at UFC 110 was short and brutal. In less than half a round, Velasquez destroyed one of MMA’s most historically outstanding heavyweights in easily his most impressive performance to date.

4. Shane Carwin (12-0)
It took almost four minutes -- an eternity by his usual standards -- but at UFC 111 in Newark, N.J., Carwin blew off Frank Mir’s doors in the first round to claim the UFC interim heavyweight title. However, the real championship will be contested July 3, when Carwin meets Brock Lesnar.

5. Frank Mir (13-5)
Mir entered his March 27 bout with Shane Carwin as a slight betting favorite. However, he looked none the part in the cage, as Carwin bashed him with left hands in the clinch and decimated the former UFC champion to take the promotion’s interim title. With it, he took Mir’s chance for a rubber match with Brock Lesnar.

6. Junior dos Santos (11-1)
Dos Santos’ March 21 bout with Gabriel Gonzaga was supposed to be a sterner test for the hot Brazilian prospect. However, it was business as usual for “Cigano,” who used his boxing ability to turn out the lights on “Napao” and firmly entrench himself in the UFC heavyweight title race.

7. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (32-6-1, 1 NC)
“Minotauro” had an army of backers who felt the former Pride and UFC heavyweight champion would put on a vintage performance against Cain Velasquez at UFC 110. However, post-fight discussion centered on whether or not Nogueira still has the physical tools to hang with young, elite heavyweights after Velasquez polished him off in a little more than two minutes.


8. Brett Rogers (10-1)
Despite the fact that Rogers was taken out by Fedor Emelianenko in November, “The Grim” will get the chance to vie for the Strikeforce heavyweight crown on May 15 in St. Louis. Rogers will take on champion Alistair Overeem, who makes his long-awaited return to the promotion after capturing its heavyweight title in November 2007.

9. Andrei Arlovski (15-7)
The former UFC champion has not seen action since June, when he lasted just 22 seconds against Brett Rogers. However, Arlovski has inked a deal with Strikeforce that will get him back into the cage soon. “The Pitbull” will take on Antonio Silva on May 15 in St. Louis.

10. Fabricio Werdum (13-4-1)
Werdum will have to wait another couple of months to fight for MMA’s heavyweight mantle. He expected to meet heavyweight kingpin Fedor Emelianenko in April, but Emelianenko’s contract dispute with Strikeforce means that “Vai Cavalo” will have to sit pretty until the early summer.

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Re: Fedor vs Werdum finally set June 26
« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2010, 10:45:26 PM »
those rankings mean shit dude.  brock lesnar was ranked #5 in the world with a 2-1 record, which removes all validity to the rankings.  No other sport would let a 2-1 record holder come anywhere close to the top 20, but mma puts him in the top 5 because the ufc hyped him up.

And as already mentioned, Werdum has a more impressive resume than velasquez, mir, carwin and dos santos.  he didnt get shit canned by the ufc, he left on his own after dos santos ko'd him (and for the record I believe dos santos will ko everyone.  the dude is a savage.)
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