Help with first cycle

[ManLaw]

I plan on running Test-E for 10 weeks at 500mg a week. Pinning on mon/thurs

Questions are:

-when should i start running clomid and at what doses?
-what support supps should i run? (hawethorn berry,Saw Palmetto, milk thistle, celery seed extract)
-on the site im buying from it says Testosterone Enanthate 10 Amps X 250mg/1ml. do i need to order 2 of those for the 10 wek cycle?

Ive done a bunch of research on all these i just found varying opinions and wanted to get some input

[SupplementGuy]

why so much for first cycle?
250 a week would be fine to start.

[Schmoe Buster]

500mg per week is a good cycle, mon and thurs shots is good, clomid you can use for PCT, if you worry about estrogen effects while on cycle use proviron or nolvodex in your cycle, as for the other supps go for it

[ManLaw]

why so much for first cycle?
250 a week would be fine to start.

from everything ive read 250 wnt do much

[Schmoe Buster]

from everything ive read 250 wnt do much

go with 500mg per, it will give great results

[ManLaw]

go with 500mg per, it will give great results

as far as support supps what should i run and at what doses?

[Schmoe Buster]

as far as support supps what should i run and at what doses?

all i use is a good multi vitamin, you dont need liver support supps when you are on an injectable only cycle, basically any health supp is good, as far as drugs go like i said before if you are worried about estrogen run nolvodex or proviron during your cycle, i prefer proviron

[nunzi]

you need 20 amps total.  so yes order two of it.  great first cycle.  do it your cycle time around too.  than start adding stuff.  good luck man.  eat big, lift big, sleep big.. and let the growing begin

[Schmoe Buster]

you need 20 amps total.  so yes order two of it.  great first cycle.  do it your cycle time around too.  than start adding stuff.  good luck man.  eat big, lift big, sleep big.. and let the growing begin

spot on

[ManLaw]

all i use is a good multi vitamin, you dont need liver support supps when you are on an injectable only cycle, basically any health supp is good, as far as drugs go like i said before if you are worried about estrogen run nolvodex or proviron during your cycle, i prefer proviron

when should i start running proviron

and i plan to use clomid for pct. what week do i start that and what doese?

i read the whole newb section but didnt see a sample cycle

[nunzi]

when should i start running proviron

and i plan to use clomid for pct. what week do i start that and what doese?

i read the whole newb section but didnt see a sample cycle

id run 50mg clomid ed for 30 days and 20mg of nolva ed for 30 days.  two weeks after you last shot.

[Mudbug79]

Don't mean to hijack thread but How many calories should you be eating while on cycle? I am 6', 195 lbs, 10% BF. What is the optimal calorie intake to produce the best results?

[4thAD]

Don't mean to hijack thread but How many calories should you be eating while on cycle? I am 6', 195 lbs, 10% BF. What is the optimal calorie intake to produce the best results?

Depends on your goals.

[Mudbug79]

I would like to add 10-15 lbs. of lean mass.

[nunzi]

5000 calories.

[Mudbug79]

5000 calories.

5000 cal? I eat about 3000-3500 cal. now . I don't know how much more I could eat in a day.

[ManLaw]

id run 50mg clomid ed for 30 days and 20mg of nolva ed for 30 days.  two weeks after you last shot.

so run clomid/nolva together? i thought you only needed 1 or the other

and is hair loss something to wrry about?

[nunzi]

id run both together personally.  I wouldnt worry about hair loss.  If hair loss runs in the family than u might be a little concerned.  but i wouldnt worry too much

[ManLaw]

when should i start running proviron

and i plan to use clomid for pct. what week do i start that and what doese?

i read the whole newb section but didnt see a sample cycle

so what should i run proviron at if i start to notice gyno?

[Schmoe Buster]

so what should i run proviron at if i start to notice gyno?

i run proviron throughout the whole cycle, find it works well this way, if you notice gyno symtons while on cycle then use nolvodex, to be honest 500mg of test per week wont really give you any side effects, even 750mg per week i never have gyno symptons, although everyone reacts different

[ManLaw]

i run proviron throughout the whole cycle, find it works well this way, if you notice gyno symtons while on cycle then use nolvodex, to be honest 500mg of test per week wont really give you any side effects, even 750mg per week i never have gyno symptons, although everyone reacts different

what do u run proviron at?

[Schmoe Buster]

what do u run proviron at?

50mg per day, take one 25mg tab 2 times a day,

[ManLaw]

So basically my cycle should look like this

week 1- 250mg test-e mon/thurs
week 2- 250mg test-e mon/thurs
week 3- 250mg test-e mon/thurs
week 4- 250mg test-e mon/thurs
week 5- 250mg test-e mon/thurs
week 6- 250mg test-e mon/thurs
week 7- 250mg test-e mon/thurs
week 8- 250mg test-e mon/thurs
week 9- 250mg test-e mon/thurs
week 10- 250mg test-e mon/thurs

Three weerks after last shot:

50mg clomid ed and 20mg of nolva for 30 days?



Is this correct? And should i taper the doses down for pct or stay the same for the full 4 weeks?

[nunzi]

Looks good. Wait two weeks after last shot to start pct. 

[SgtSpar]

So basically my cycle should look like this

week 1- 250mg test-e mon/thurs
week 2- 250mg test-e mon/thurs
week 3- 250mg test-e mon/thurs
week 4- 250mg test-e mon/thurs
week 5- 250mg test-e mon/thurs
week 6- 250mg test-e mon/thurs
week 7- 250mg test-e mon/thurs
week 8- 250mg test-e mon/thurs
week 9- 250mg test-e mon/thurs
week 10- 250mg test-e mon/thurs

Three weerks after last shot:

50mg clomid ed and 20mg of nolva for 30 days?



Is this correct? And should i taper the doses down for pct or stay the same for the full 4 weeks?

Lol, did you really have to spell each week out when they are exactly the same?  Next time, write 500mg a week and use the time left over to do an extra set of curls