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Vince,
I have grown extremely bored of my routines.
I want to experiment with a workout Routine that you create.  I will follow it to a T with no deviation and log the results here on Getbig.


Are you up for this sort of thing?

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vince is a man with ideas.  i

I agree


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I doubt Adonis has the vocabulary to profit from my instruction.

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I doubt Adonis has the vocabulary to profit from my instruction.
Thats not what you said nearly 4 years ago. From Ironage.us
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« Sent to: The True Adonis on: September 29, 2006, 07:05:20 am »
      
Hi Adam,

Please email me if you want to try this program. It has to be followed exactly otherwise we are both wasting our time.

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Hapless Basile will never give any useful advice, certainly no routine that one could try.

He will however talk about how "everyone is an expert" and mention DOMS and how it somehow relates to muscle growth.

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Vince even offered at one time for Jezebelle and I to stay at his place in Australia training.  Now he doesn`t like me?  ???

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vince will also talk about this mythical workout of his without talking about this mythical workout of his. Hypertrophy will also be mentioned, but not mentioned.

one thing that certainly won't be mentioned is dianabol.
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I have nothing of interest that surpasses the expertise of Adam and the collective flotsam of Getbig. 4 years ago I offered to help Adam but he failed to do the homework specified so I no longer have any interest in helping someone who won't follow exact instructions. He chose to use his own brain and resources and now suggests he is bored. No, he is simply stating that he is unable to cause further hypertrophy. Since he doesn't want to accept that he is at his maximum natural size he thinks that I might provide some method that will restart the growth process.

I have posted all that I am going to post here on Getbig on hypertrophy. It was challenged but never refuted but I have moved on and no longer offer on line programs. I have outlined my theory but that is was not sufficient for the pedestrian brains here who require detailed programs. If a theory is correct then its application shouldn't be that difficult. Well, like many things in life it is more complicated than many think. The reason is that the technology or application of the theory requires extensive experience which is beyond what most have or will ever have.

I suggest that Adam consult with the resident brains who criticize me. Perhaps his salvation lies with them.

I originally wrote to Adam because I thought he was a student of hypertrophy. He is capable of learning but he embraces rather peculiar ideas at times and this suggests that his foundation isn't as solid as I had hoped. I don't appreciate having my private messages posted on this forum.

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I have nothing of interest that surpasses the expertise of Adam and the collective flotsam of Getbig. 4 years ago I offered to help Adam but he failed to do the homework specified so I no longer have any interest in helping someone who won't follow exact instructions. He chose to use his own brain and resources and now suggests he is bored. No, he is simply stating that he is unable to cause further hypertrophy. Since he doesn't want to accept that he is at his maximum natural size he thinks that I might provide some method that will restart the growth process.

I have posted all that I am going to post here on Getbig on hypertrophy. It was challenged but never refuted but I have moved on and no longer offer on line programs. I have outlined my theory but that is was not sufficient for the pedestrian brains here who require detailed programs. If a theory is correct then its application shouldn't be that difficult. Well, like many things in life it is more complicated than many think. The reason is that the technology or application of the theory requires extensive experience which is beyond what most have or will ever have.

I suggest that Adam consult with the resident brains who criticize me. Perhaps his salvation lies with them.

I originally wrote to Adam because I thought he was a student of hypertrophy. He is capable of learning but he embraces rather peculiar ideas at times and this suggests that his foundation isn't as solid as I had hoped. I don't appreciate having my private messages posted on this forum.

No really, I am just bored.

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I have nothing of interest that surpasses the expertise of Adam and the collective flotsam of Getbig. 4 years ago I offered to help Adam but he failed to do the homework specified so I no longer have any interest in helping someone who won't follow exact instructions. He chose to use his own brain and resources and now suggests he is bored. No, he is simply stating that he is unable to cause further hypertrophy. Since he doesn't want to accept that he is at his maximum natural size he thinks that I might provide some method that will restart the growth process.

I have posted all that I am going to post here on Getbig on hypertrophy  . It was challenged but never refuted but I have moved on and no longer offer on line programs. I have outlined my theory but that is was not sufficient for the pedestrian brains here who require detailed programs. If a theory is correct then its application shouldn't be that difficult. Well, like many things in life it is more complicated than many think. The reason is that the technology or application of the theory requires extensive experience which is beyond what most have or will ever have.

I suggest that Adam consult with the resident brains who criticize me. Perhaps his salvation lies with them.

I originally wrote to Adam because I thought he was a student of hypertrophy. He is capable of learning but he embraces rather peculiar ideas at times and this suggests that his foundation isn't as solid as I had hoped. I don't appreciate having my private messages posted on this forum.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA
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I have nothing of interest that surpasses the expertise of Adam and the collective flotsam of Getbig. 4 years ago I offered to help Adam but he failed to do the homework specified so I no longer have any interest in helping someone who won't follow exact instructions. He chose to use his own brain and resources and now suggests he is bored. No, he is simply stating that he is unable to cause further hypertrophy. Since he doesn't want to accept that he is at his maximum natural size he thinks that I might provide some method that will restart the growth process.

I have posted all that I am going to post here on Getbig on hypertrophy. It was challenged but never refuted but I have moved on and no longer offer on line programs. I have outlined my theory but that is was not sufficient for the pedestrian brains here who require detailed programs. If a theory is correct then its application shouldn't be that difficult. Well, like many things in life it is more complicated than many think. The reason is that the technology or application of the theory requires extensive experience which is beyond what most have or will ever have.

I suggest that Adam consult with the resident brains who criticize me. Perhaps his salvation lies with them.

I originally wrote to Adam because I thought he was a student of hypertrophy. He is capable of learning but he embraces rather peculiar ideas at times and this suggests that his foundation isn't as solid as I had hoped. I don't appreciate having my private messages posted on this forum.

The homework was getting an out of print book I believe.  What was the title again?

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The homework was getting an out of print book I believe.  What was the title again?

Heavy Duty By Michael Mentzer
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Vince,
I have grown extremely bored of my routines.
I want to experiment with a workout Routine that you create.  I will follow it to a T with no deviation and log the results here on Getbig.


Are you up for this sort of thing?

maybe you should ask The Coach, he would have you running a circus act before you know it at the gym.

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Apenis, ask Goodrum for advice and follow that.  See where that will take you
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Epic thread!!  The man who can't get specific meets the man who won't provide proof.  There's no telling where this could lead!

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Heavy Duty By Michael Mentzer

Which is only correct method for natural bodybuilder, and which will give you greatest results, IF YOU DO IT RIGHT. What comes this "calorie is a calorie"- genius who is incapable to follow any instructions, even very simple ones like "shut the fuck up", there is no hope in this world. Why? You need some intelligence if you want to build your muscles, and he doesn't have any. In past four years he has proven how stupid he is and now he want some help from Vince, who couldn't care less. Gee, I wonder why... ::)

Bodybuilding is quite simple and easy but still most of you doesn't understand it. You need a pile of instructions and programs and you read them from the magazines and these forums. 80% of you follow the program which you have read somewhere without knowing is it suitable for you at all. Instead of that, you should use your so called brains and think about the matter. What you really need? Few basic exercises per muscle group, good range of motion and good technique. You also need to know your muscles and what is the propose of them. For example, how about the abs? If we simplify hell out of the matter, their purpose is scroll your upper body around your belly button, so which is better exercise, sit up or crunch? For sit up you use 40% your abs and 60% your hip flexors, and with the crunch you use 80% of your abs and 20% of your hip flexors, so do the math. It is useless to try to work out your abs with the exercises where your middle section is complete flat, because there is much better ways to do it and you benefit more with them.

Your latissimus lift your body up when you hang with your hands in branch of the tree, and that is what it does best, so why 80% of you do bent over rows while standing almost straight up? You need that bend over posture to make most of the movement with your latissimus, not with your traps and strength of your upper back, because there is better exercises for those muscles. And when you hang on that pull down machine, try this: Instead of how you usually yank the bar down while leaning back as far as you can, just sit straight and while you pull the bar down, bend your upper body lifting your chest and pulling your shoulder blades together. What you find out is that you cannot use as much weight, which means that your latissimus doesn't do the work when you use your old method, so how it could grow? What I am saying here is best advise you can get, and it mean that you must go back to basics, and that is all. You don't need any super special hyper pro moves to grow muscles, so you save a lot of time if you learn the basics and do them right. Then, when you reach your limit and you have full and big muscles, you can make a most of them by using some tuning exercises, but you really don't need those any sooner.

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Adonis, if your really experiencing a slowdown in progress, look into the fitness/fatigue theory. You have probably done this already, but just in case you haven't...

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ROFL its not rocket science...for any natty do hard workouts with compound stuff and eat food, and get sleep and within 2 months will be able to determine if your genetics are worth a shit.   

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Which is only correct method for natural bodybuilder, and which will give you greatest results, IF YOU DO IT RIGHT. What comes this "calorie is a calorie"- genius who is incapable to follow any instructions, even very simple ones like "shut the fuck up", there is no hope in this world. Why? You need some intelligence if you want to build your muscles, and he doesn't have any. In past four years he has proven how stupid he is and now he want some help from Vince, who couldn't care less. Gee, I wonder why... ::)

Bodybuilding is quite simple and easy but still most of you doesn't understand it. You need a pile of instructions and programs and you read them from the magazines and these forums. 80% of you follow the program which you have read somewhere without knowing is it suitable for you at all. Instead of that, you should use your so called brains and think about the matter. What you really need? Few basic exercises per muscle group, good range of motion and good technique. You also need to know your muscles and what is the propose of them. For example, how about the abs? If we simplify hell out of the matter, their purpose is scroll your upper body around your belly button, so which is better exercise, sit up or crunch? For sit up you use 40% your abs and 60% your hip flexors, and with the crunch you use 80% of your abs and 20% of your hip flexors, so do the math. It is useless to try to work out your abs with the exercises where your middle section is complete flat, because there is much better ways to do it and you benefit more with them.

Your latissimus lift your body up when you hang with your hands in branch of the tree, and that is what it does best, so why 80% of you do bent over rows while standing almost straight up? You need that bend over posture to make most of the movement with your latissimus, not with your traps and strength of your upper back, because there is better exercises for those muscles. And when you hang on that pull down machine, try this: Instead of how you usually yank the bar down while leaning back as far as you can, just sit straight and while you pull the bar down, bend your upper body lifting your chest and pulling your shoulder blades together. What you find out is that you cannot use as much weight, which means that your latissimus doesn't do the work when you use your old method, so how it could grow? What I am saying here is best advise you can get, and it mean that you must go back to basics, and that is all. You don't need any super special hyper pro moves to grow muscles, so you save a lot of time if you learn the basics and do them right. Then, when you reach your limit and you have full and big muscles, you can make a most of them by using some tuning exercises, but you really don't need those any sooner.

Can you tell us what titles you have won.  If not can you at least tellu show many titles you have
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just take steroids and shut up
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Expert advice by Vince has never been seen/read on any forum I`ve visited over the years.

Talks a lot of expert shit,but never really says a damn thing.

Kinda` acts like a sheila at times instead of one of the lads!!

Fair dinkum and  happy holidays to all.

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Basille won one competition in which he was the only competitor

he looks like he hasn't touched a weight in twenty years

he is too busy stalking gay black men on the internet
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I have posted all that I am going to post here on Getbig on hypertrophy. It was challenged but never refuted but I have moved on and no longer offer on line programs. I have outlined my theory but that is was not sufficient for the pedestrian brains here who require detailed programs. If a theory is correct then its application shouldn't be that difficult. Well, like many things in life it is more complicated than many think. The reason is that the technology or application of the theory requires extensive experience which is beyond what most have or will ever have.

Cripes. You and your theory, again. You act like some alchemist who has discovered a philosopher's stone but when asked for proof, can't do anything but mumble that the conditions aren't right, or some such nonsense.

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Which is only correct method for natural bodybuilder, and which will give you greatest results, IF YOU DO IT RIGHT. What comes this "calorie is a calorie"- genius who is incapable to follow any instructions, even very simple ones like "shut the fuck up", there is no hope in this world. Why? You need some intelligence if you want to build your muscles, and he doesn't have any. In past four years he has proven how stupid he is and now he want some help from Vince, who couldn't care less. Gee, I wonder why... ::)

Bodybuilding is quite simple and easy but still most of you doesn't understand it. You need a pile of instructions and programs and you read them from the magazines and these forums. 80% of you follow the program which you have read somewhere without knowing is it suitable for you at all. Instead of that, you should use your so called brains and think about the matter. What you really need? Few basic exercises per muscle group, good range of motion and good technique. You also need to know your muscles and what is the propose of them. For example, how about the abs? If we simplify hell out of the matter, their purpose is scroll your upper body around your belly button, so which is better exercise, sit up or crunch? For sit up you use 40% your abs and 60% your hip flexors, and with the crunch you use 80% of your abs and 20% of your hip flexors, so do the math. It is useless to try to work out your abs with the exercises where your middle section is complete flat, because there is much better ways to do it and you benefit more with them.

Your latissimus lift your body up when you hang with your hands in branch of the tree, and that is what it does best, so why 80% of you do bent over rows while standing almost straight up? You need that bend over posture to make most of the movement with your latissimus, not with your traps and strength of your upper back, because there is better exercises for those muscles. And when you hang on that pull down machine, try this: Instead of how you usually yank the bar down while leaning back as far as you can, just sit straight and while you pull the bar down, bend your upper body lifting your chest and pulling your shoulder blades together. What you find out is that you cannot use as much weight, which means that your latissimus doesn't do the work when you use your old method, so how it could grow? What I am saying here is best advise you can get, and it mean that you must go back to basics, and that is all. You don't need any super special hyper pro moves to grow muscles, so you save a lot of time if you learn the basics and do them right. Then, when you reach your limit and you have full and big muscles, you can make a most of them by using some tuning exercises, but you really don't need those any sooner.

TL;DR Heavy Duty training is good


yeah i agree somewhat but as a natural its fuckin hard to keep up