To VINCE BASILE: What is your ultimate Workout Routine for a Natural?

[Van_Bilderass]

Expert advice by Vince has never been seen/read on any forum I`ve visited over the years.

Talks a lot of expert shit,but never really says a damn thing.

Kinda` acts like a sheila at times instead of one of the lads!!

Fair dinkum and  happy holidays to all.

FLOTSAM
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JETSAM  

Agree with Westcocks.

Bring back Failcan and ban hapless Basile.

[JasonH]

So Vince, what's the difference between the foltsam and jetsam on Getbig?

Are the flotsam the regular posters and the jetsam the guys in timeout? 

Just wondering.

[Tapeworm]

Never seen Vince crack a joke.  Or laugh at a joke.  Or poke fun of any kind.  Vince Basile is not here to amuse you.  Vince Basile does not play.  Vince Basile is a serious man.

[Fatpanda]

vince has been saying the same thing on here for years................... ..nothing.

he keeps talking about his theory on hypertrophy but has never actually said what that is.

he also keeps saying no one has ever refuted his theory, which is true i suppose because it's difficult for anyone to refute something when they do not know what it is. 

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Basille won one competition in which he was the only competitor

he looks like he hasn't touched a weight in twenty years

he is too busy stalking gay black men on the internet

The runner-up from the 1970 Mr Canada did not shave his hair off of his body or even bothered to get a tan. 

Says a lot about Basile's "Hard Fought Victory"   

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

There are pictures of you and your sickening pubes all over getbig you idiot. You shouldn't talk about shaving  .

I had my arm around his shoulder

You had another guy stick a plastic lightsaber up your ass and was wearing mascara......

Conclusion:  You beat me in the gay dept that's for sure.....

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

I have nothing against gays. If you enjoy cock, good for you.  

I'm sure you don't have anything against gays because the homo is very strong in you my padawon.

BTW, I'm bi and I was still dating women before I met Vissy.  So your picture doesn't mean jack shit

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

I am not about to get into a debate with you. You are the #1 retard on getbig.

Thats fine, don't want to see you break out in show tunes anyway.  I'll keep the light on in that glass closet of yours, bitch.

[NCNPC29]

Vince Basile ordered a Big Mac at Burger King, and got one. True story. 

[noworries]

The runner-up from the 1970 Mr Canada did not shave his hair off of his body or even bothered to get a tan. 

Says a lot about Basile's "Hard Fought Victory"   

You don't train, diet, or do one thing related to being a bodybuilder.  All you do is show look like shit and try to be close to guys in thongs.  Hey where is that pic of you wrestling.  And tell everyone the stories behind trying to sell Bee Pollen at the shows and in the gyms.  Its funny how your life on the internet mirrors your real life experiences.  Like I have always said, it must suck (no pun intended) to be you. 

[Vince B]

Never seen Vince crack a joke.  Or laugh at a joke.  Or poke fun of any kind.  Vince Basile is not here to amuse you.  Vince Basile does not play.  Vince Basile is a serious man.

Ask Keith if I have a sense of humour. I can even laugh at myself. I am an excellent shit stirrer and have won huge wooden spoons to prove it. It amazes me why some don't see my humour. Maybe it takes a certain wit to appreciate stuff I say.

Keith and I are always amused at the antics of Goodrum. What a clown that guy is, especially when he is serious.

[Topskin69]

Cripes. You and your theory, again. You act like some alchemist who has discovered a philosopher's stone but when asked for proof, can't do anything but mumble that the conditions aren't right, or some such nonsense.

Excellent point, all he can do is state that the unwashed plebeian masses of Getbig, are not worthy of his towering genius, Superior intellect, or Fair Dinkum approach to life.

[Vince B]

As if anyone owes Getbiggers anything except a boot in the backside for abuse! I haven't read anything of bodybuilding value from you or Dr Chimps.

Hope this helps.

[Topskin69]

As if anyone owes Getbiggers anything except a boot in the backside for abuse! I haven't read anything of bodybuilding value from you or Dr Chimps.

Hope this helps.

Get off your false martyrdom dude. No one is persecuting you. If you haven't read anything of value from me, then you aren't looking very hard. I am one of the least judgmental people on Getbig, and I am rarely negative. You have posted interesting things of merit in the past, but I speak the truth when I say you foster an absurd, not to mention paranoid, attitude towards your theories and sharing them.

Then again I suspect its because you don't have a substantial, or cohesive theory to begin with. Prove me wrong though... post a well thought out overview on hypertrophy and I will apologize.

[Vince B]

Look, I have posted my theories before both here and elsewhere to no avail. I am not interested in being abused by anonymous people no matter how informed or educated they are.

This is NOT the place to have a serious debate. This is the gossip and opinions board.

What part of this don't you comprehend?

[Topskin69]

Look, I have posted my theories before both here and elsewhere to no avail. I am not interested in being abused by anonymous people no matter how informed or educated they are.

This is NOT the place to have a serious debate. This is the gossip and opinions board.

What part of this don't you comprehend?

Hmm I think that this is a cop out to be honest. Yes there are some that will just mock you irregardless of what you say, but in all honesty if you are posting valuable ideas, or information, people here will be interested and respect you.

I think most people here respect the physique you attained in your Mr. Canada days, and your involvement in Bodybuilding. I don't think you have been abused as much as you think you have. Yes some peoples comments about vans and such are a bit out of line, but nothing worth getting upset over.

With that out of the way... I have been here since...I think the middle of 06 and I have a pretty decent memory, and in all that time I don't think you have ever posted anything close to a complete overview, or thesis of any of your theories. You have posted some fairly meandering posts telling Getbiggers to start questioning the status quo, and that hypertrophy is not well understood, but as far as I can tell you have done nothing to post ideas, that would replace any conventional wisdom, that we are in current possession of.

If I am wrong, then please repost some of your ideas, in a full and substantial manner.

[noworries]

I had my arm around his shoulder

You had another guy stick a plastic lightsaber up your ass and was wearing mascara......

Conclusion:  You beat me in the gay dept that's for sure.....

Then you had your mouth around his cock after he shoved it up your ass for next 2 hours.  you are disgusting Goodrum.  No wonder no one likes you.

[The True Adonis]

As if anyone owes Getbiggers anything except a boot in the backside for abuse! I haven't read anything of bodybuilding value from you or Dr Chimps.

Hope this helps.

Is that the original?

[Vince B]

A few years ago I posted my theory right here on the gossip and opinions board. It went for over 20 pages. I doubt anyone actually tried what I recommended. That is typical because people already think they know how to train. Resident experts attempted to dismiss my theory with various comments and challenges. All failed to refute the theory. I tried to explain all muscular growth from training and all non growth as well. The latter isn't dealt with adequately by most theories.

The main benefit of posting ideas is to receive informed comments so that changes can be made and the theory refined or altered. I respect that many here are knowledgeable but few have a comprehensive explanation of muscular growth.

Another problem is the implementation of theories. It isn't as easy as it seems. I have first hand experience using subjects in my gym. Occasionally you get someone who resists all efforts to get larger arms. His shoulders grow because he fails to put enough mechanical tension on his biceps and triceps. It is amazing that people cheat at exercises then wonder why parts don't grow. You often see torso champs in the gym. Big traps, chest, back and shoulders but small arms in comparison. The other muscles are used to move the weights when training arms so the arms don't grow much. I have one fellow who literally can't make his arms bigger no matter what he or I do. With someone like that theory is not going to help one iota. At best he sees some modest improvement but his shoulders grow bigger.

Some muscles respond to a point with certain exercises then growth stops. When that happens one needs to find substitute exercises and eventually the more effective exercises are distilled. Experienced trainers can save beginners and intermediates years of time. The technology of training is just as important as theory. Plus nutrition. If any part is lacking there will be little or no growth.

[bic_staedtler]

FLOTSAM...

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...and jetsam.

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Venom Vince Versace enjoys the penis.  On record.  This place is awesome.

[Fatpanda]

A few years ago I posted my theory right here on the gossip and opinions board. It went for over 20 pages. I doubt anyone actually tried what I recommended. That is typical because people already think they know how to train. Resident experts attempted to dismiss my theory with various comments and challenges. All failed to refute the theory. I tried to explain all muscular growth from training and all non growth as well. The latter isn't dealt with adequately by most theories.

The main benefit of posting ideas is to receive informed comments so that changes can be made and the theory refined or altered. I respect that many here are knowledgeable but few have a comprehensive explanation of muscular growth.

Another problem is the implementation of theories. It isn't as easy as it seems. I have first hand experience using subjects in my gym. Occasionally you get someone who resists all efforts to get larger arms. His shoulders grow because he fails to put enough mechanical tension on his biceps and triceps. It is amazing that people cheat at exercises then wonder why parts don't grow. You often see torso champs in the gym. Big traps, chest, back and shoulders but small arms in comparison. The other muscles are used to move the weights when training arms so the arms don't grow much. I have one fellow who literally can't make his arms bigger no matter what he or I do. With someone like that theory is not going to help one iota. At best he sees some modest improvement but his shoulders grow bigger.

Some muscles respond to a point with certain exercises then growth stops. When that happens one needs to find substitute exercises and eventually the more effective exercises are distilled. Experienced trainers can save beginners and intermediates years of time. The technology of training is just as important as theory. Plus nutrition. If any part is lacking there will be little or no growth.

bullshit. i remember the thread, you said the same for 20 pages................... .nothing

i tried in vain to get you to post something/anything about your theory. All you posted was deflections and excuses.

Once and for all post your theory so i can properly destroy it   (joking - i am genuinely interested)

however my patience only lasts so long............

[io856]

You often see torso champs in the gym.

You more often see arm champs in the gym.  

[Vince B]

It is not my fault that many have comprehension difficulties and cannot easily distill what to do when reading about a training theory. I put everything into simple language to no avail. The flotsam remain unwashed. A pity for them. I still enjoy triggering hypertrophy when I train. Why others can't do this regularly is a mystery.

Imagine all training programs in a funnel. To trigger hypertrophy you have to go through the narrow part of the funnel so all methods are equivalent that work. The symptoms will be similar and growth should follow. It really is straight forward when you grasp the idea. My contribution was to use soreness as a feedback mechanism to know if you trained hard enough and also when to retrain, preferably before the soreness evaporates.

[Smanjh]

A few years ago I posted my theory right here on the gossip and opinions board. It went for over 20 pages. I doubt anyone actually tried what I recommended. That is typical because people already think they know how to train. Resident experts attempted to dismiss my theory with various comments and challenges. All failed to refute the theory. I tried to explain all muscular growth from training and all non growth as well. The latter isn't dealt with adequately by most theories.

The main benefit of posting ideas is to receive informed comments so that changes can be made and the theory refined or altered. I respect that many here are knowledgeable but few have a comprehensive explanation of muscular growth.

Another problem is the implementation of theories. It isn't as easy as it seems. I have first hand experience using subjects in my gym. Occasionally you get someone who resists all efforts to get larger arms. His shoulders grow because he fails to put enough mechanical tension on his biceps and triceps. It is amazing that people cheat at exercises then wonder why parts don't grow. You often see torso champs in the gym. Big traps, chest, back and shoulders but small arms in comparison. The other muscles are used to move the weights when training arms so the arms don't grow much. I have one fellow who literally can't make his arms bigger no matter what he or I do. With someone like that theory is not going to help one iota. At best he sees some modest improvement but his shoulders grow bigger.

Some muscles respond to a point with certain exercises then growth stops. When that happens one needs to find substitute exercises and eventually the more effective exercises are distilled. Experienced trainers can save beginners and intermediates years of time. The technology of training is just as important as theory. Plus nutrition. If any part is lacking there will be little or no growth.

You can have the greatest training theory in the world, but if it amounts to a straight line, single factor program that does not account for systematic fatigue, it will result the same as every other program in the bodybuilding world.

[Vince B]

I never offered programs per se but a method to trigger and sustain hypertrophy in body parts. This should avoid systemic fatigue. I think most programs involve too many muscles and that can put too much stress on many people. There are plenty of methods to stimulate growth but few that explain the lack of growth in many individuals. You need to address both for a theory to explain everything.

When I stimulate hypertrophy in my lats, for example, it feels like something has invaded that area and I would not want to have this throughout the body.